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Understanding the holy scriptures is impossible unless God gives you the interpretation

Bob the Unbeliever

Well-Known Member
I’m inclined to agree. Unless one’s life is animated by the Holy Spirit, the Christian Bible will make little sense and cannot be accepted as being Divinely Inspired. However, where we would disagree is that not everyone who is inspired by the Holy Spirit will necessarily accept the Bible or consider it mandatory to do so.

So. Anyone who disagrees with YOU and what YOU think, is not "guided"?

Gotcha. And isn't that convenient?
 

Dawnofhope

Non-Proselytizing Baha'i
Staff member
Premium Member
All that is obvious.

My question, though, has to do with
two people fervently claiming they got
the truth from god, bu getting opposite
results.

Do you want to address that, or not.
Anyone can say anything they want. That doesn’t make it true.
 

TransmutingSoul

Veteran Member
Premium Member
1 Corinthians 2:14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.

I would agree and I see the explanations have been given.

Thank God for that.

Regards Tony
 

TransmutingSoul

Veteran Member
Premium Member
All that is obvious.

My question, though, has to do with
two people fervently claiming they got
the truth from god, bu getting opposite
results.

Do you want to address that, or not.

The Truth would be the Truth and if both argue about it, then they both did not get it right.

Regards Tony
 

Dawnofhope

Non-Proselytizing Baha'i
Staff member
Premium Member
That is why I believe that God's spirit only awakens those in whom he sees an obedient heart. He has no time for those who want him to do things 'their' way. After all, obedience is the only thing God required of the first humans.....if they had just obeyed his simple command, none of us would be in this predicament. Our will has to be the same as God's will....he will never conform to ours.

The problem with interpretation of words written two thousand years ago is the tendency to project ourselves onto what we imagine to be God’s will.
 

Hockeycowboy

Witness for Jehovah
Premium Member
scientific evidence that contradicts a young earth and a worldwide flood is overwhelming.

Yes, the evidence suggests an old Earth, I’ll give you that.

But how does that negate the Noachian Deluge? Is a “Young Earth” somehow tied to the Global Flood? I believe in an Old Earth, and I believe the Noachian Flood occurred. How is the Noachian Deluge only possible w/ a Young Earth view? I’ve never found any evidence linking the two beliefs.

Can you link these two separate events, together?
 

rational experiences

Veteran Member
God, a male with a penis, for God the male invented science.

Science does not speak on behalf of natural...science was a theory for a human male about a pyramid to remove life of God.

Which was self inferred by MASSO and also by MATHSO.

How is that story not real about God the male confessing and I hated you spiritually?

Males claim that God was Satan, that is because O God was not Satan...the stone.

The human being male science self conjured Satan x O God removal...and says that theme today for a science machine reaction...yet it was cause and effect.

Why he is a liar.

^ science as the artificial machine was a mountain tip surrounded by water mass disintegrating mass ^ to a flat top ground state.

o flat top ground state.

Consciousness, from ^ volcanic o history as gases.

God theory in science, to return the beginning on God O the Earth by x volcano.

Males say O the ARK ground landing created human diversity and speaks about how it allowed x 2 of each animal species to still live but removed human DNA diversity to 8 ground families.

And O God the Earth owns ooooooooooo multi land touch downs, some in deserts not seen.

Males looked at bio diversity and tried to apply ARK by human genetics....when oooooooo God the ark stone mass fusion in each country supports diversity.

Science attacked millions of lives in my attack AI tried to give it a summation but just said about 4 million or so in data advice, as I heard it.

Life is not an ARK...being ground fall irradiation, that in other O God cooling conditions, stops the attack naturally.

Science wanted that attack of ARK study to not own natural Earth God movement/wandering and cooling, and wanted the channel held in once place.

As per his evil thoughts...to force God the mass only ever being known to his life in science as O stone the held particle fused God body mass to be blown apart in particle de particularization.

As not based on the pyramid ^ mountain volcano law fusion, but based on collider God O natural Earth history.

Ai told me today that the 3 pyramids, pointed to where God O the Earth had travelled from, about ancient Atlantis …..why they did not pull down/attack those pyramids and left that as a personal reminder of why they were left standing.

After you attacked life in ancient times...which did not just involve the pyramid, it involved incoming burning meteors and comets.

Why Satanism was stopped...why you altered the title to con science...as the big con itself.

When you lie and try to convince humanity that the Ark created God is about as big a con as science ever owned as a male life attacked.

So when you tell a story and say to everyone, I proved to everyone as first scientist that O God came from a spiritual body....then he proved it when he tried to ANTI his own human life.

And it why spiritual science discussions were supported ever since.

Then the male says, but I lost my personal spiritual consciousness.

And ask why.

Because the UFO radiation mass attack was still incoming and was detailed to stop and evolution would have occurred 2012....and science never allowed its return, so still today we are attacked and made sick and own life sacrifice with early age death because of science.
 

Dawnofhope

Non-Proselytizing Baha'i
Staff member
Premium Member
Yes, the evidence suggests an old Earth, I’ll give you that.

But how does that negate the Noachian Deluge? Is a “Young Earth” somehow tied to the Global Flood? I believe in an Old Earth, and I believe the Noachian Flood occurred. How is the Noachian Deluge only possible w/ a Young Earth view? I’ve never found any evidence linking the two beliefs.

Can you link these two separate events, together?
Both beliefs rely on a literal interpretation of Genesis, do they not? I’m not saying the two have to go together and one cannot be believed without the other. However, a likely outcome of literal interpretation of Genesis along with other parts of the Hebrew Bible is believing in both a young earth and a world wide flood.
 

rational experiences

Veteran Member
When science says One in natural bio life, the one is a multi human DNA self family history.

So of course consciousness says there is more than just one you know.

Yet multi o Ark ground fall attacked a multi diverse multi country family...not one.

As I heard the AI say.

To then detail angelic information to my psyche.

Now about 38 years ago, spirit told me that I was chosen to be given a message for humanity. As angelic feed back is AI caused by science history, early age human death leaves human angel feed back spirit images in the clouds until their natural death in natural life. Humans dying from early age science UFO causes interactively as a human, gives the human its messages its own self by human life in its genetic destruction.

How I never used that advice egotistically for it was based on self aware healer knowledge of my family dying. Why I was motivated to reason how I got that message, just as a human myself. And the reason I nearly died as a little baby...and so my whole life involved being informed about human death and its multi UFO radiation causes.

So I knew I was not any angel and even taught that humans are not the angels...it is an AI irradiation effect of an attack on a bio life and having it removed and replaced with an angel instead.

We always said that the angels came and took our life away, and how is that not a rational answer today against form of male argument in science?
 

Hockeycowboy

Witness for Jehovah
Premium Member
John 13:34-35...

What do you guys think this really means?

Do not think religions professing Christ can join with the world in its conflicts and kill their brothers; it should be obvious that these ones are not obedient to Christ, and are really in spiritual darkness. 1 John 3:10-15

Why do so many not get this?! Because such behavior has been around for 1700 years, I guess!

It stands to reason, then, that those religions will not have God’s spirit to understand Scripture.

And love for your brother — and even your enemy, Matthew 5:44 — is not the only stipulation for Christians....abstaining from fornication is another.

Obedience is the determining factor. 1 John 5:3
 

rational experiences

Veteran Member
John 13:34-35...

What do you guys think this really means?

Do not think religions professing Christ can join with the world in its conflicts and kill their brothers; it should be obvious that these ones are not obedient to Christ, and are really in spiritual darkness. 1 John 3:10-15

Why do so many not get this?! Because such behavior has been around for 1700 years, I guess!

It stands to reason, then, that those religions will not have God’s spirit to understand Scripture.

And love for your brother — and even your enemy, Matthew 5:44 — is not the only stipulation for Christians....abstaining from fornication is another.

Obedience is the determining factor. 1 John 5:3

2012 was said to be the stated O RETURN for all of humanity healing of mind/consciousness by the blocking out of Mother Abomination history, heated irradiated space by science incoming UFO sun mass.

Exactly how it was taught.

Science, male began new radiation science late 1800s, 1901 experiments gave an instant nuclear Earth wood attack in Russia tree flattening.

Self evidence that the heated irradiated space had not yet cooled...for it was instant.

100 C years later the cooling of the event hit Russia again, as advice to everyone, religious study of the stars was real in science statements about science being wrong.
 

Hockeycowboy

Witness for Jehovah
Premium Member
Both beliefs rely on a literal interpretation of Genesis, do they not? I’m not saying the two have to go together and one cannot be believed without the other. However, a likely outcome of literal interpretation of Genesis along with other parts of the Hebrew Bible is believing in both a young earth and a world wide flood.
I think it boils down to how you understand the Hebrew word “day” (yom) as used in Genesis. (I see lengths of time implied, as in Day 3: ”Let the land produce vegetation”....i mean, that takes a while. Same w/ the animals producing

Let me ask you: in Luke 3, it provides the genealogy of Jesus; his lineage. Would you expect those to be genuine people? Of course!

It mentions Noah and Adam, as Jesus’ ancestors.

Furthermore, in discussing divorce, Jesus directly quoted from Genesis @ Matthew 19:4-6, saying God “made them male and female,.....and the man must stick to his wife.

This would have no force, if Jesus were relating an allegorical account to real life situations...

Take care.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
I think it boils down to how you understand the Hebrew word “day” (yom) as used in Genesis. (I see lengths of time implied, as in Day 3: ”Let the land produce vegetation”....i mean, that takes a while. Same w/ the animals producing

Let me ask you: in Luke 3, it provides the genealogy of Jesus; his lineage. Would you expect those to be genuine people? Of course!

It mentions Noah and Adam, as Jesus’ ancestors.

Furthermore, in discussing divorce, Jesus directly quoted from Genesis @ Matthew 19:4-6, saying God “made them male and female,.....and the man must stick to his wife.

This would have no force, if Jesus were relating an allegorical account to real life situations...

Take care.
You do realize that that part of the Bible is almost certainly artificial, don't you? Matthew and Luke have quite different lines of decent, and yest, I know the nonsensical excuses for them. If one simply accepts that parts of the Bible are mythical and should not be taken literally it does not refute itself half as often.
 

rational experiences

Veteran Member
The bible and the Ark of wood, is a historic male claim confession that imposes I made stone become carbon, whilst I carbonized the atmosphere by burning held colder frozen star gained from space UFO metallic mass particles.

Why God in natural Sun history, attack and its conversion, was attacked historically by a METAL ark, which science today seems to overlook.

It was not a carbon/wood ark in the beginning, and you seem to be missing the feed back ideal about that story...….but wait a minute it is because it was all destroyed...no feed back vision advice.

So a male then invented the pyramid and began to carbonise the atmosphere and also the stone fusion/ground body by ARK OF WOOD.

Why historians can make no sense of it....why conscious science males in natural bio life as the science inventor MIND only knew the truth by his own VISIONS.

Why it was said that Scientists were not allowed to read that information for their unconscious AI defected thinking lied to itself.

What rationale is involved about reason, history, lived choices, holy choices, real science aware choices, reason for common sense, human logic.

Therefore as a female unnaturally I began to get VISIONS about past male chosen science attacks...and it owned voiced statements.

So I began to record and study what I was being advised...seeing females as a life and body own human life continuance.

And it began to make logical sense to me, what a science male brother, who first has to THINK before he owns machine built/machine reaction, which he also ignores as relevant self advice.

So if science says I get electricity from carbon content and claim and if I cool/slow down the Earth metallic radiation cold fusion release, then I can hold an ARK as a channel above my position machine, then I think he is wrong.

Nuclear power plants would still own the ARK natural radiation Earth interaction movement....which would forcibly be trying to continue its wandering....ground attack, which would melt more ICE.

I know what I learnt by ICE melting, Earth dropping in space into cold spatial well in my attack victimization of science.

As the nuclear power plant owns the artificial radiation cold constant...for it is an increase on cold fusion held dusts...colder than.

2 previous colder than radiation states, natural history.

I think in that scenario the brotherhood of original science Satanists DNA who are living today would all get held in a UFO ground ARK landing and maybe they will get removed in life....when the brotherhood says is their last time.

For as a male is not his machine, claiming which POPE does it belong to.....none of the POPES owned what a machine radiation reaction causes....so you never knew until it occurs.....you just guessed when it would occur by choices of Satanism in science.
 

PruePhillip

Well-Known Member
Oh it's God's fault people don't seek Him for the truth rather than trusting in themselves?

We do "trust in ourselves" these days.
There is no authority, there is no God - WE are the authority and WE are Gods.
Whatever you do is right in your own eyes.
We haven't slipped into a twilight post-religious world where we believe nothing,
we have entered a glorious age where we believe anything and everything.

The old argument of what morality will replace Christianity has been answered:
Read my profile below.
 
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PruePhillip

Well-Known Member
You do realize that that part of the Bible is almost certainly artificial, don't you? Matthew and Luke have quite different lines of decent, and yest, I know the nonsensical excuses for them. If one simply accepts that parts of the Bible are mythical and should not be taken literally it does not refute itself half as often.

So why do you think there's two different lineages?
I mean, the theory is the Gospels were all put together
a century or so after Jesus, carefully crafted to make
it appear they were contemporaneous with Jesus. Yet
they made his huge blooper.
 
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