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Hippies

PureX

Veteran Member
They say the 80s were more moderate years....
The 80s were the 'big backlash', when the forces of the status quo and systemic mediocrity took over, and raged. The music was produced by machines owned by corporate cultural entrepreneurs and performed in expensive night clubs by lip-sincing models and dancers. Every song became it's own televised advertisement on the music video channels. Every surface was fake, and shiny, and smooth like a glass, so you could do your lines of cocaine anywhere and everywhere. Wealth, celebrity, and drug induced oblivion became the only worthy goals in life. We saw 'The Lives of the Rich and Famous' on TV, and admired and envied the grotesque decadence of it all.

There was NOTHING moderate about the 80s.
 

PureX

Veteran Member
I was born in those years:p
You never knew the world before it went insane. That's too bad. Humans were never entirely right in the head, but there was a time when most people still believed in the innate goodness of humanity, and that it would triumph in the end.

Hard to believe, now, though, isn't it.
 

Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
You never knew the world before it went insane. That's too bad. Humans were never entirely right in the head, but there was a time when most people still believed in the innate goodness of humanity, and that it would triumph in the end.

Hard to believe, now, though, isn't it.
I was born in a yet not globalized country...
And believe me...I could tell how beautiful the world was back then...


Nowadays people are restlessly dissatisfied...
Back then they were happy with sipping juice in a pub listening to a nice song.

 

Evangelicalhumanist

"Truth" isn't a thing...
Premium Member
Well, I was there! I spent considerable time in Toronto's main hippie enclave, Yorkville Village. I loved the era -- but I just never took to the drugs. Weed made me feel ill.

But I think I adopted a lot of my liberated notions about sex and other personal matters back then, and I'm still really comfortable with them.

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I'm in that picture, but you can't see my face.
 

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
Well, I was there! I spent considerable time in Toronto's main hippie enclave, Yorkville Village. I loved the era -- but I just never took to the drugs. Weed made me feel ill.

But I think I adopted a lot of my liberated notions about sex and other personal matters back then, and I'm still really comfortable with them.

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I'm in that picture, but you can't see my face.

I hear said that if you can remember hippie era you weren't there ;-)
 

Evangelicalhumanist

"Truth" isn't a thing...
Premium Member
I hear said that if you can remember hippie era you weren't there ;-)
Oh, I remember it well! But as I said, I didn't like the drugs. But there were other things -- like my first guy with a mustache! I've loved facial hair ever since, and refuse to remove my own 'stache.
 

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
Oh, I remember it well! But as I said, I didn't like the drugs. But there were other things -- like my first guy with a mustache! I've loved facial hair ever since, and refuse to remove my own 'stache.
Hubby is growing s full set. Does that make him a hippy?
 

wizanda

One Accepts All Religious Texts
Premium Member
The idea no one has commented or noticed Hippies are not a historical concept; Modern Hippies exist, and listen to all sorts of music.

There is a huge following of PsyTrance underground parties all over the world, having illegal raves with the Babylonian Government trying to suppress our freedom.

Some of the Biggest movements of Hippies are in Israel, Goa, Ibiza, etc.

Hippies are not a style of Music from the sixties, it is a movement of people who care about our planet; the religious leaders are the haters who don't accept Oneness of religion, and suppress Hippies as not even existing.

It is like the Essenes with Yeshua and John the Baptist were Hippies (Ebionites), and they tried to replace it with Rabbinic Legalism, as an alternative to history having taken place. :oops:

In my understanding everyone will be Hippies in the Messianic Age, and the religious will be gone; this is quite clear, when from the lack of knowledge, people have made a moral ethical movement, into a conversation about a music genre. :confused:

In my opinion. :innocent:
 
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Stevicus

Veteran Member
Staff member
Premium Member
It's been a half-century since the peak of the movement, but looking back what do you think about it? For some people, I know it's had a lasting effect, but for some others it's just a relatively meaningless blip in history. I have my opinions, but I'm interested in what others may think.

While you're contemplating this, hear's a tune that you might enjoy from that era:

Well, I started kindergarten in 1969, but I was living in a rather conservative neighborhood where hippies weren't particularly well liked. (I would come to find out years later that our town police department had a reputation for harassing hippies and giving them a hard time.)

My mother sympathized with the hippies and the anti-war movement. My father didn't agree. My mother also started going back to college to pursue a master's degree in theater arts - which attracted a good many hippie types. Eventually my parents broke up. Some of my dad's drinking buddies in the neighborhood talked a lot of smack about the hippies and their pot-smoking, while they were knocking down martinis all night. Weird bunch.

What really stuck with me, though, was the music. I was too young to understand politics or the actual issues of what was going on, but I did take to the music early on. My childhood listening included Chubby Checker, the Kingston Trio, Winnie the Pooh, and In a Gadda Da Vida. My mother also got the soundtrack to "Hair" which was kind of a catchy tune, which is also something I picked up on early. That is, I could tell that a lot of people didn't like it when men wore their hair long. Nowadays, no one seems to care, but back then, a man with long hair was just not looked upon very kindly.

Case in point, when I was about 6 (1970), my eldest cousin (the daughter of my father's eldest sister) got married to a young man who had hair down to his shoulders. Two doors down lived my other aunt and uncle, who was a decorated WW2 veteran. He reacted quite negatively to the whole idea of his niece marrying some hippie, so he boycotted the wedding. He made a point of it, as the wedding guests were walking past his house to the church, he was standing out front, watering his lawn.

For me (and probably most kids at that age), one has to be wary of the "bigger kids," and that's what the hippies were from my point of view. And with numerous adults in my family seeing them as "deplorables," it probably colored my attitude towards hippies early in life.

As I grew older, I began to understand the political issues a little better, but any semblance of any widespread political movement had pretty much dissipated by then. Of course, there were still a lot of guys with long hair (including myself and older brother), but most people had grown accustomed to it and didn't care anymore.

What a long, strange trip it's been.
 

BSM1

What? Me worry?
There were many facets to what gets referred to as the "hippie movement", and it didn't spring up out of nowhere. It began with the 'beatniks' shortly after WW2. Many of these were vets who found they couldn't just fall back into the status quo after their experience of war. They needed more from life than the mindless, materialist American dream they were being offered. So they began to seek alternative sources of value, and ways of living. And when the U.S. kept jumping into one war after another, they began to question the values and motives of the whole American system. Everything began to be questioned; racism, sexism, materialism, all forms of authority, it showed up in their music, and literature, and theater, and thus their discontent began to spread, and intensify. And this is how we got to the "hippies" who were protesting the war, exploring new ways of living, and doubting and rejecting everything their parents had believed and trusted in.

This is the sanitized version. There were many war protesters and societal drop outs during the period who were by no means a 'Hippie". True hippies were a product of the music and drug scene of the late 60's.
 

BSM1

What? Me worry?
When i was born the "hippie" thing was just beginning to wane. Even so, mom and dad still okay late 60s music, i was weened on Hendrix, Joan Biez, Janice Joplin, Carlos Santana, Canned Heat, Grateful Dead, CCR, BTO, the Who. Jefferson Airplane, Johnny Winter, the Doors, Cream... Bored yet?

Music of the hippie era was a great influence on me. I still play some of it.



We play the 'old rock' and blues. It's pleasantly surprising that many of the young musicians we meet still want to hear and play these tunes. We like telling them that we were there when the stuff was new. It was a magic time.
 

Valjean

Veteran Member
Premium Member
The "hippie" that most people conjure up from that time is totally not a true representation of the paradigm. You see a squeaky clean, "peace and love" media version but not the real thing. Most "hippies" were dirty. lazy, drugged-out, disenchanted young men and women who were simply looking for a good time. This was the beginning of the sexual revolution, and guys sudden found themselves in a target rich environment. The "hippie" movement died when these 17-23 (c) year olds realized that someone still had to pay the bills. And please don't get me started on communes.
There were the Nature Boys ( The Nature Boys | Reality Sandwich ) in the early 1900s, There were Beats in the '50s. In the '60s there were Flower Children, Hippies, Yippies, and other counter-culture types. There were also assorted waifs and derelicts attracted to the scene, which is what you seem to be referring to.
In the '70s there was the communal/back-to-nature movement and a dissolute, hedonistic club/disco
scene among the mainstream.
I think you're lumping several culturally distinct groups together, based, perhaps, on a superficial resemblance.
And please don't get me started on communes.
Oh please do.
As an unreconstructed '60s/'70s Hippie and ex communard I'd be interested.
 
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Valjean

Veteran Member
Premium Member
This is the sanitized version. There were many war protesters and societal drop outs during the period who were by no means a 'Hippie". True hippies were a product of the music and drug scene of the late 60's.
Which was a product of which?
 

Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member


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But the night, the party is over...life is great...
People get undressed, a new world starts...
A different world yet made of sex
Who will live, will see
:p
 

Valjean

Veteran Member
Premium Member
2 whole pages dedicated to hippies and no one has yet mentioned or posted one of these

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But it all began with Further: ;)
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This 1934 International Harvester school bus, named "Further" became an international icon of the hippy movement after the Merry Pranksters drove it from California to New York and back in 1964.
Photo courtesy of Magnolia Pictures
 
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