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Flight 752 -- the cost not paid by America

Stanyon

Stanyon

WWMRD?
Evangelicalhumanist said:
Notice how you focus only on the stuff AFTER YOUR PRESIDENT DID WHAT HE DID. That would be, of course, not something you'd care to discuss, because you'd have to recognize it as a proximate cause.
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So the Iraninan general was just some innocent, benevolent, caring individual? What role did his actions play in all of this?
 
Evangelicalhumanist

Evangelicalhumanist

"Truth" isn't a thing...
Premium Member
Stanyon said:
So the Iraninan general was just some innocent, benevolent, caring individual?
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Where did I say that? Where did I even hint at that? Why would you even suggest it -- except as a deflection?

Suleimani was a butcher and completely evil. Do you need me to be clearer? But how does that change anything I've said?
 
Cooky

Cooky

Veteran Member
Evangelicalhumanist said:
And you know what? I think you should apologize for even trying that terrible misdirection.
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Right after you apologize to me for jumping to conclusions about me earlier.

Here's what you said that bothered me and caused me to tell you you're like talking to a wall:

Evangelicalhumanist said:
And did you express regret for all of those lost lives? Or is that not something that figures in your political considerations?

I'm just an atheist, so I have difficulty understanding why I think every life is important, and every unnecessary death should be killing. I haven't the religious training that allows me to ignore that while patting my country on the back.
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...So it's your fault I insulted you, by your flawed logic.
 
Evangelicalhumanist

Evangelicalhumanist

"Truth" isn't a thing...
Premium Member
Stanyon said:
Did his actions lead up to his killing?
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His actions may have deserved his killing (that's not my view, I'm not a fan of killing). But what does that have to do with the fact that Trump made a decision -- not entirely based on the "fact" of "his actions" -- decided to take him out? For his own political good? Who else around the world is similarly "deserving" of being killed, and why isn't Trump killing them? Good grief, Trump cozies up to murderous dictators around the world, and makes not a move against them. Of course not -- he approves of them!

You need to learn to see your boy through unbiased eyes.
 
Stevicus

Stevicus

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Staff member
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Evangelicalhumanist said:
Notice how you focus only on the stuff AFTER YOUR PRESIDENT DID WHAT HE DID. That would be, of course, not something you'd care to discuss, because you'd have to recognize it as a proximate cause.
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I suppose there may be some measure of cause-and-effect, but in this case, the Iranians stupidly shot down a commercial airliner flying from one of their own major airports, within their own airspace, and with their own people as some of the passengers.

Sure, it's a tragedy, and I'm sure the Iranians didn't mean it. But just because they ostensibly didn't bother to look at what they're firing at, I don't see how that can be blamed on the US. I think that's stretching it a bit.
 
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