sooda
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Moses was a fictional character.. Do you understand why he is referenced?
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What made the Israelites so special as a people...?
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Moses was a fictional character.. Do you understand why he is referenced?
sooda
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Daniel was written during the persecutions by Antiochus IV Epiphanes around 167 BC. It was written to encourage the Jews.
I find Daniel 11:10-12 is in reference to Antiochus III.
I find Daniel 11:13-19 is also in reference to Antiochus III, and his successors were:
* Seleucus IV and
* Antiochus IV
Followed by Daniel 11:20 Augustus.
Followed by Daniel 11:21-24 Tiberius
Followed by Daniel 11:25-26 Aurelian ( Roman empire breaks down )
Followed by Daniel 11:27-30 A, the German Empire ( World War I )
Followed by Daniel 11:30 B-31 Hitler's 3rd Reich ( World War II)
Followed by Daniel 11:32-43 the Communist Bloc ( aka cold war )
Daniel 11:44-45 down to our day.- Daniel 2:44's feet of the political statue, we are at the time of the feet.
rational experiences
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Children are at risk in the life of adults, and always have been, for adults make very wrong choices in their life based on their superior self egotism.
For a human to claim that their teaching is special education is for that mind to claim what they teach is special, in their own idealisation of their self explanation.
Oh, I am assisting a life that I assisted as an adult to be harmed, and do so out of a guilty ideal...that I should not say what I really know about the child that I am looking at actually.
Another human would say, do not be cruel to claim a cruel name to that child....it is already cruel that the child is suffering the state as given to them by science.
The human Egyptian past technology story, Pyramid and Temple, nuclear fall out attack in the desert regions, were the worst attacked holy land, meaning DNA owners of self, on Earth.....just as it was explained and also taught. That out of all countries on Earth, God, meaning the reaction causation attacked them the worst.
sooda
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You are reading into Daniel stuff that isn't there.. Its Scofield heresy .. Daniel isn't even considered a prophet because there was NO Daniel.. It was written by a committee.
IndigoChild5559
Loving God and my neighbor as myself.
Daniel himself didn't fully understand the dream. What makes you think you do?
They were loyal to Bible God, that is why they got the promises and blessings. And I don’t think their practices were similar to Egyptians.
Know therefore that Yahweh your God, he is God, the faithful God, who keeps covenant and loving kindness with them who love him and keep his commandments to a thousand generations, and repays those who hate him to their face, to destroy them: he will not be slack to him who hates him, he will repay him to his face.
Deuteronomy 7:9-10
"'But if you will not listen to me, and will not do all these commandments; and if you shall reject my statutes, and if your soul abhors my ordinances, so that you will not do all my commandments, but break my covenant; I also will do this to you: I will appoint terror over you, even consumption and fever, that shall consume the eyes, and make the soul to pine away; and you will sow your seed in vain, for your enemies will eat it.
Leviticus 26:14-16
Good point about Daniel not fully understanding, and that is why Daniel wrote Daniel 12:9; Daniel 12:4.
Daniel would Not understand because what Daniel wrote is for our day our time frame.
We are at the ' time of the end 'of all badness on Earth, as described at 2 Timothy 3:1-5,13.
The breakdown of Nebby's political statue as found at Daniel 2:28-44 starting with ancient Babylon to our day.
So, Scripture combined or taken together with human rulership history shows the sequence of the world powers.
So, to me it is Not what I think, but how mankind's history has played out since the gold head of Nebby's dream.
To me the represented Huge political statue 'is there', and the statue's now on its last legs
- Daniel 2:41 (Roman iron mixed down with democratic clay)
So, we are now closer down to the time of the statue's toes - Daniel 2:42
Or, more likely we are at the ' time of the toe nails ! '- Daniel 2:43
So, what is left is ' thy kingdom come ' / God's kingdom government coming ' - Daniel 2:44
The statue does Not collapse on its own, but God's symbolic 'stone' (Daniel 2:35,45) will bring an end to man dominating man to man's hurt, man's injury. - Ecclesiastes 8:9
IndigoChild5559
Loving God and my neighbor as myself.
Nah. No reason to think it's for our day. No reason to think we are in the last days. When the messiah comes, we'll understand.
When Messiah comes the whole world will come to understand - Ezekiel 38:23, 10-13 - the whole coalition of nations.
Messiah is the ' Son of Man ' of Ezekiel 39th chapter.
IndigoChild5559
Loving God and my neighbor as myself.
I'm no expert, but it seems to me that the son of man in that verse, the prophet, is Ezekiel.
I'm No expert either, and in dealing with the Hebrew Scriptures God does address Ezekiel as the son of man.
However, to me Psalms 8:3-4; Psalms 144:3 is Not in direct connection to Ezekiel.
A more direct connection would be toward Messiah being given the power to redeem us from sin and death's grip.
Being called the Son of Man is calling attention to Messiah being of the human family by way of his fleshly birth .
Whereas, being called Son of God is referring to his per-human heavenly existence, being of divine origin.
Daniel 7:13-14's Son of Man also would Not connect to Ezekiel .
rational experiences
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A human male group named science claims that preceding information for their own personal self creation exists and said it was the Bible.
Yet science is owned by a pre existing natural human being male, self stated, living, thinking, telling a variety of stories for the conditions science.
Which science says as that living natural and self owned natural human male was thought for science conditions of removing the natural presence physical mass knowingly consciously by atmospheric radiation and gas status. As the supported conscious science male thinking realizations.
Now first a male in his origin life self status would tell a story that the natural gases present in its mass and the natural radiation level owned his life presence support, as a rational mind thinker.
So he would have known if he wanted to convert physical mass to gain the powers he said were held contained in physical mass...to get energy by machine....then he also would have know that the radiation level would no longer support his natural life/self existing.....if you first applied a rational aware spiritual mind conscious self, inventing the state science itself.
Now you cannot first claim that you studied science to claim self male historic science invention.....when the themes and stories were always just for the building of a machine and then a machine reaction. For you would all be proven liars today.
Science was never invented originally to claim, how I got created...for then you would also be claiming, I got invented by my own male self presence and my machine and be a total liar.
Now if you used and applied rational conscious human thinking, you would say that the planet O of stone, created and released its own natural atmosphere. And as a scientist you realized that the Sun attack on all spatial bodies as a cosmological occurrence, converted the body of Earth.
How you gained ideas to copy that condition and apply it yourself.
So where in that story is the power to own conversion? When every natural state, including self owned everything being held fused and intact?
The answer is to knowingly activate and bring to Earth new UFO mass, just for the state science by human male choice to force conversion.
Therefore after the event, if you said and so now I own in natural bio life attacked/converted the new atmospheric condition, seeing you sacrificed its mass presence and in place put a higher science radiation body mass....then you did....and would also teach self that if you believed in increasing that attack, you would then be totally destroyed as that life.
The bible seems to tell you in a message to your own research that you did in fact claim and God who gave you all the life you were sacrificed converted owning, then decided in that science quote, to destroy you all....for seemingly you did not get the science result of your first science self removal theory. To ANTI self presence...what the science preaching was about.
Self intent to destroy self, by self idealism that you can manipulate change to natural as if you will decide as a male and a man and a human who will live and die....as if the science condition was a machine invention to attack particular continents for just their nation or national removal.
Which would then also bring to the scientist attention, oh, that is why I began to personally act out attacking other human countries/nations and continents, as a science irradiation attack on my own spiritual psyche, as a self in science possession.
Males in their natural life have a true problem with claiming that by thinking they personally own everything that is self present and natural in its own natural conditions....yet they prove that they do. ie….Nature is self owned and produces its own food for all human existence. Males then began to own property and to grow the food on their property and then tell everyone else...and you now have to pay me for what I control...food growing.
Being the mentality of males who still today think that a bible is going to give them the answer of how they were all bio created. And as a male owns the machine, controls the machine and the reaction, for what logical reason would you still today be contemplating how your bio life got created unless you are all possessed to be studying it to own a machine reaction to have it removed?
Makes no other form of logical sense for why you keep trying to interpret your own destruction.
Yet science is owned by a pre existing natural human being male, self stated, living, thinking, telling a variety of stories for the conditions science.
Which science says as that living natural and self owned natural human male was thought for science conditions of removing the natural presence physical mass knowingly consciously by atmospheric radiation and gas status. As the supported conscious science male thinking realizations.
Now first a male in his origin life self status would tell a story that the natural gases present in its mass and the natural radiation level owned his life presence support, as a rational mind thinker.
So he would have known if he wanted to convert physical mass to gain the powers he said were held contained in physical mass...to get energy by machine....then he also would have know that the radiation level would no longer support his natural life/self existing.....if you first applied a rational aware spiritual mind conscious self, inventing the state science itself.
Now you cannot first claim that you studied science to claim self male historic science invention.....when the themes and stories were always just for the building of a machine and then a machine reaction. For you would all be proven liars today.
Science was never invented originally to claim, how I got created...for then you would also be claiming, I got invented by my own male self presence and my machine and be a total liar.
Now if you used and applied rational conscious human thinking, you would say that the planet O of stone, created and released its own natural atmosphere. And as a scientist you realized that the Sun attack on all spatial bodies as a cosmological occurrence, converted the body of Earth.
How you gained ideas to copy that condition and apply it yourself.
So where in that story is the power to own conversion? When every natural state, including self owned everything being held fused and intact?
The answer is to knowingly activate and bring to Earth new UFO mass, just for the state science by human male choice to force conversion.
Therefore after the event, if you said and so now I own in natural bio life attacked/converted the new atmospheric condition, seeing you sacrificed its mass presence and in place put a higher science radiation body mass....then you did....and would also teach self that if you believed in increasing that attack, you would then be totally destroyed as that life.
The bible seems to tell you in a message to your own research that you did in fact claim and God who gave you all the life you were sacrificed converted owning, then decided in that science quote, to destroy you all....for seemingly you did not get the science result of your first science self removal theory. To ANTI self presence...what the science preaching was about.
Self intent to destroy self, by self idealism that you can manipulate change to natural as if you will decide as a male and a man and a human who will live and die....as if the science condition was a machine invention to attack particular continents for just their nation or national removal.
Which would then also bring to the scientist attention, oh, that is why I began to personally act out attacking other human countries/nations and continents, as a science irradiation attack on my own spiritual psyche, as a self in science possession.
Males in their natural life have a true problem with claiming that by thinking they personally own everything that is self present and natural in its own natural conditions....yet they prove that they do. ie….Nature is self owned and produces its own food for all human existence. Males then began to own property and to grow the food on their property and then tell everyone else...and you now have to pay me for what I control...food growing.
Being the mentality of males who still today think that a bible is going to give them the answer of how they were all bio created. And as a male owns the machine, controls the machine and the reaction, for what logical reason would you still today be contemplating how your bio life got created unless you are all possessed to be studying it to own a machine reaction to have it removed?
Makes no other form of logical sense for why you keep trying to interpret your own destruction.
IndigoChild5559
Loving God and my neighbor as myself.
The expression LIke a man and a son of man is simply a poetic way to repeat like a human being twice without sounding redundant. It is beautiful. It doesn't refer to any particular person.
In Daniel, you have a passage that basically goes there is this animal that stands for this nation and that animal that stands for that nation and htis other animal that stands for this other nation. And THEN there is one that is like unto a son of man... It follows the pattern, so it stands for a NATION. What nation would be a cut above the rest, so that it would be symbolized by a human being rather than an animal? Israel.
They have nothing similar. Egyptians are the liberals allowing any concepts of gods. The Jews are monotheists.
The rise and fall of nations are shown in the HUGE political statue of Daniel chapter 2 .
No animals in that statue, just different metals starting with the head of Gold (Babylon).
God's kingdom government of Daniel 2:44 is the government that is left standing.
In the NT, so to speak, the nation that is a cut above the rest is a 'spiritual nation', the Christian congregation.
A ' spiritual house' a ' holy nation ' as per 1 Peter 2:5; 1 Peter 2:9.
For Christians ( which includes fleshly Jews ) the 'Israel of God' is Not fleshly or national Israel.
Jerusalem ' above ' is for Christians now the seat of government. The government of God's kingdom.- Galatians 4:26
Jesus (Son of God) is King of God's kingdom for a thousand years - 1 Corinthians 15:24-26.
Whether what was similar or not, what made the Israelites so special was God's promise to father Abraham.
God promised that ALL families of Earth would be blessed through Abraham's seed (offspring) his descendants,
and ALL families of Earth would be blessed through Abraham and Sarah - Genesis 12:3; Genesis 17:16; Genesis 22:18; 18:18.
Huh, I find according to what we can learn from the Bible that Cornelius was the first gentile convert to Christianity.
- Acts of the Apostles 10th chapter.
Israel the name given to Jacob by God meaning: Contender, Perseverer with God, or God contends.