Subduction Zone
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Who started all of this with not the wisest of assassinations?
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Ukrainian Passenger Plane Shot Down In Iran Or Crashed?
- Thread starter esmith
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Russian missiles are a bit more accurate it seems - like in the Malaysian Airlines incident.
Who to believe - a bit like the Russians and the novichok incident in Salisbury or the assassination of Khassoggi - especially when they have form.
dfnj
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Again, what purpose would that serve? American hawks have wanted to bomb Iran for decades.
dfnj
Well-Known Member
Who to believe - a bit like the Russians and the novichok incident in Salisbury or the assassination of Khassoggi - especially when they have form.
Exactly. Who to believe. It would be interesting to see what type of SAM is determined when the crash is investigated. It should be pretty easy to identify don't you think?
They've already mentioned the type that was probably used.
An error by the operators - as in the Malaysian Airlines incident?
dfnj
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I doubt it. Too much at stake if it is successfully pinned on the Iranians.
dfnj
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I mentioned it before I read the Iranians were allowing Western crash investigators. Why would they do that if they were not sure they did NOT fire the SAM?
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Overall? I would say the idiots who flew planes into the world trade center.
That's when the Middle East started to undergo it's badly needed 'reconstruction'.
Well I'm not sure 'allowing Western crash investigators' doesn't preclude them from hiding any evidence. One only has to look back at the previous incident in the Ukraine.
People make mistakes, and the reaction is often to deny any responsibility. Much like the Khashoggi affair, where the highest authority could hardly admit such (to being a murderer). The embarrassment this would cause the Iranians is such too.
Hence why they were leaving for Ukraine.
esmith
Veteran Member
If I'm not mistaken the plane departed after the attack was launched and the missiles had impacted their targets.
Just guessing but I have to assume that the Iranians assumed that the US would not immediately respond to the attack. Which I would have to agree with.
All it takes is one mistake at a missile site and the rest is a forgone conclusion if the target is an commercial aircraft.
Btw, this flight had many Iranians on it.
Salvador
RF's Swedenborgian
Hence why they were leaving for Ukraine.
Sorry these people whom Iran blasted to death didn't make it out of Iran alive, but I don't understand why Canadians were even in Iran; the Islamic Republic of Iran commits acts of terrorism with their Quds Force, whom the Canadian government itself has designated as being terrorists.
"Since 2012, Canada has designated Quds Force a “listed terrorist entity” among the likes of Boko Haram and al-Qaeda"
Canada secretly grants visas to terrorists & war criminals - The Post Millennial
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Salvador
RF's Swedenborgian
I'm confident President Trump made the right call to take down the Quds force's terrorist leader; our P.O.T.U.S. acted on the basis of top secret classified military intelligence information revealing Soleimani posed an imminent threat to American lives whom the Quds force's terrorist leadership had plotted to put in harm's way by an Islamic militant attack against the U.S. embassy there in Iraq.
the Islamic Republic of Iran commits acts of terrorism with their Quds Force, whom the Canadian government itself has designated as being terrorists.
WATCH: Iranian-Canadian rips Trudeau’s weakness on terrorism - The Post Millennial[/QUOTE]
The US has concentration camps filled with foreign nationals; I still make trips to Michigan every now and then.
Salvador
RF's Swedenborgian
The US has concentration camps filled with foreign nationals; I still make trips to Michigan every now and then.[/QUOTE]
Lake Michigan is beautiful; ain't she. ...