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What? No war !

Revoltingest

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Salvador said:
Agreed, but these are each really massive bombs, each weighing over 20,000 pounds with a powerful blast of proven capability to kill nearly one hundred well-scattered Islamic militants dwelling in a widely dispersed area of tunnels.

Just one MOAB should be enough to put the fear of Allah into almost one hundred Islamic militants. Pretty impressive!

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Doesn't sound like it'll win any wars.
Ya know.....both sides will have weapons.
 
Salvador

Salvador

RF's Swedenborgian
Revoltingest said:
Doesn't sound like it'll win any wars.
Ya know.....both sides will have weapons.
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True, but hypothetically, the U.S. military could direct electromagnetic pulses.at Iranian electronic powered weapons, these Iranian weapons would then become totally useless by Iran.


Also, I'd bet there'd likely be some few thousand Islamic militants having more than just a bad hair day if the entire U.S. arsenal of MOABs were to bombard them.

 
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Revoltingest

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Salvador said:
True, but hypothetically, the U.S. military could direct electromagnetic pulses.at Iranian electronic powered weapons, these Iranian weapons would then become totally useless by Iran.


Also, I'd bet there'd likely be some few thousand Islamic militants having more than just a bad hair day if the U.S. entire arsenal of MOABs were to bombard them.
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By now, half of Iran has read your posts,
& is implementing counter-measures.
Way to go!
 
McBell

McBell

Resident Sourpuss
suncowiam said:
Mmmm. So are we debating imaginary people when we broadly point the finger?

Which Democrats are doing this? Where is that notion coming from? What is the basis of your statement?
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The basis is on the fact there are some members who made such claims that are now making less noise then crickets in the winter time.

Also, it is against forum rules to "call out" members.

So no, they are not imaginary, though their disappearance may lead some to think so.
 
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suncowiam

Well-Known Member
Mestemia said:
The basis is on the fact there are some members who made such claims that are now making less noise then crickets in the winter time.

Also, it is against forum rules to "call out" members.

So no, they are not imaginary, though their disappearance may lead some to think so.
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Calling them out indirectly is still calling them out, is it not?

If you want to find out why specific people are "now quiet", then why not directly ask them? But making the general comment of some Democrats is just not very helpful to furthering the discussion. I'm a Democrat that didn't make any comments about WWIII, yet I found the comment somehow was directed at me.

The irony I find is that not a single person can conclude what will happen between US or Iran. It's simply too soon. So, making these sweeping statements of de-escalation or the next world-war are two sides of the same coin. I find both are just projecting their own likes and dislikes, more probably so associated with their political affiliation.
 
McBell

McBell

Resident Sourpuss
suncowiam said:
Calling them out indirectly is still calling them out, is it not?
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long ago I was told that you can link to the post or present the post number to support your claim, but you are not allowed to name them directly in your post.

So far as I know that has not changed.

suncowiam said:
If you want to find out why specific people are "now quiet", then why not directly ask them? But making the general comment of some Democrats is just not very helpful to furthering the discussion. I'm a Democrat that didn't make any comments about WWIII, yet I found the comment somehow was directed at me.
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I am not the one who used the word "Democrat".
So you would need to ask them.

Personally I could care less and for the most part do not know if the ones that were talking all the doomsday smack were Democrats, Republicans, Liberals, Conservatives, or even psychic midget porn stars.
I do know the smack has come to an abrupt end and most of them have disappeared.

In fact, you just stated you are a Democrat.
But I will not remember it here in less than a day.
 
dfnj

dfnj

Well-Known Member
shmogie said:
I have absolutely no doubt that there are some democrats who wanted Americans to be killed, to prove their narrative of fear of Iran, and a serious error on the part of Trump.
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Can your heart be filled for anymore possible hate? I'm getting a little tired of this American fascism we have going on here. The next thing you are going to do is call for putting Democrats in prison for thought crimes. When is this madness going to stop?

Trump was insanely reckless with his foreign policy. The problem with this country is people like you. Trump could throw babies up in the air and catch them on a bayonet and you would still lick his boot. You can still like Trump. But killing General Salami was a dumb and reckless foreign policy. Not everything is about worshiping your leader like he is God on Earth.

And for the record, Republicans are just as bad as Democrats in every possible way. If you think otherwise your are being purely delusional. Lobbyists define domestic policy for both parties. The Council of Foreign Relations defines foreign policy for both parties. Other than reckless assassination of General Salami, 99% of Trump's foreign policy is exactly the same as Obama's. And Obama's was 100% exactly the same as GWB's. There's really no difference between either party. So stop pretending your Republicans are holy angels sent to us directly from God. I live in New Jersey. I can assure you there is nothing pure and innocent with any politician coming out of this state!
 
Twilight Hue

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
dfnj said:
Can your heart be filled for anymore possible hate? I'm getting a little tired of this American fascism we have going on here. The next thing you are going to do is call for putting Democrats in prison for thought crimes. When is this madness going to stop?

Trump was insanely reckless with his foreign policy. The problem with this country is people like you. Trump could throw babies up in the air and catch them on a bayonet and you would still lick his boot. You can still like Trump. But killing General Salami was a dumb and reckless foreign policy. Not everything is about worshiping your leader like he is God on Earth.

And for the record, Republicans are just as bad as Democrats in every possible way. If you think otherwise your are being purely delusional. Lobbyists define domestic policy for both parties. The Council of Foreign Relations defines foreign policy for both parties. Other than reckless assassination of General Salami, 99% of Trump's foreign policy is exactly the same as Obama's. And Obama's was 100% exactly the same as GWB's. There's really no difference between either party. So stop pretending your Republicans are holy angels sent to us directly from God. I live in New Jersey. I can assure you there is nothing pure and innocent with any politician coming out of this state!
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I think there is also fatigue from intentional Socialist Democrats continually siding with terrorist nations and further degrading the United States and friendly allies such as Israel.
 
dfnj

dfnj

Well-Known Member
Nowhere Man said:
I think there is also fatigue from intentional Socialist Democrats continually siding with terrorist nations and further degrading the United States and friendly allies such as Israel.
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I don't know about you but I for one am completely fatigued by the endless war. I have news for you. The rag-heads in the Middle East have been killing each other for thousands of years. There is absolutely NOTHING the US is going to do the Middle East that is going to change Arabs killing Arabs. Every dollar and drop of blood we spend in the Middle East is a complete waste. I guarantee you 500 years from the there will still be war in the Middle East! When the so called "chosen people" showed up in the "promised land" it was occupied. Oh well.

At some point we have to put American first. At some point we have to end the endless war. I'm sorry, but where in our Constitution does it say we have to be the World's police force????
 
ImmortalFlame

ImmortalFlame

Woke gremlin
shmogie said:
The bases attacked were not American bases, though some exist that they could have attacked, they attacked Iraqi bases, Iraqi assets, not ours.
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They were bases in Iraq being used by US troops.

Are you suggesting Iran just randomly attacked Iraq, and the airstrikes had no relation whatsoever to the US drone attack?
 
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pearl

Well-Known Member
Salvador said:
During April 13th, 2017, US MC-130 aircraft dropped one over Afghanistan on a network of ISIS tunnels that were blasted into killing ca. eight dozen ISIS fighters.
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The strike had been in the works for a number of months, dating back to the Obama administration, which is when the bomb itself had been moved into Afghanistan. The authority to use the bomb had been delegated to Nicholson, although he notified Washington in advance, Martin reports.
 
Revoltingest

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
suncowiam said:
Mmmm. So are we debating imaginary people when we broadly point the finger?

Which Democrats are doing this? Where is that notion coming from? What is the basis of your statement?
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Noticing trends in posters' discussions is not debating.
 
shmogie

shmogie

Well-Known Member
ImmortalFlame said:
They were bases in Iraq being used by US troops.

Are you suggesting Iran just randomly attacked Iraq, and the airstrikes had no relation whatsoever to the US drone attack?
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The two bases were Iraqi bases, under their control, that housed both their troops and ours.

They could have attacked a number of completely American bases in sunni countries.

They did not because Iraq is a client state. They did not because the particular bases chosen were huge, with vast amounts of open spaces, thus they could attack an Iraqi base, with plenty of room to miss Americans.

They got a great propaganda coup for their own people, attacked an allied, country thus avoiding the problems of attacking a hostile sunni country, and they made sure they missed everyone.

So, their "revenge" was a tempest in a teapot. They made sure no Americans were harmed, because they were afraid of the resultant response.

Bullies always back down when they are called out by someone who can hand them their *** on a platter. Further, islamic nations respect power and force, they view all else as weakness.
 
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