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Arizona Republican Proposes Trio of Laws That Would Allow Schools to Discriminate Against Transgende

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A Republican Arizona state representative has introduced three laws that propose mandating binary sex identification on state documents and legally allowing public school employees to discriminate against transgender students by referring to them with incorrect pronouns......
Rep. John Fillmore proposed House Bill 2082 for the upcoming legislative session, according to a Tuesday report in the Arizona Mirror. The bill would prevent public schools from penalizing employees who use incorrect pronouns for transgender students. It would also prohibit schools from requiring that employees use correct pronouns for students, unless the pronoun "corresponds to the sex listed on that student's birth certificate."

A recent incident that would likely have had a different outcome under the proposed law involved an Arizona teacher who was fired in September 2019. The teacher allegedly insisted on using incorrect pronouns for transgender students, and failed one student for a school project that referred to gender identity. The teacher was also said to have lowered the grade of a student that admitted to being an atheist while proselytizing Christianity and attempting to distribute Bibles to students in class.

Although the law would seemingly help teachers legally discriminate against transgender students, Fillmore insisted the proposal was aimed at helping schools focus on issues like simple math instead of "sexual stuff."

Arizona Republican Proposes Trio of Laws That Would Allow Schools to Discriminate Against Transgender Students
 

Skwim

Veteran Member
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It's always nice to put a face to such idiocy.

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..Arizona Republican State Representative John Fillmore
And you can tell he's a true American 'cause he poses with the American flag

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dianaiad

Well-Known Member
Well that does it....I'm not moving to AZ.
Lowering the grades of atheists....school's tough enuf already.

Absolutely the teacher was wrong; and should have been fired, if it is true that s/he lowered a grade BECAUSE a student was atheist, or if s/he attempted to proselyte anything at all at school, bibles or no.

However, the bit about using the wrong pronoun? No. If a transgender student is presented to the school BY HIS/HER GUARDIANS as the sex opposite of his/her physical one, that's one thing. However, if the problem is simply that the student claims to be one sex or the other according to his/her whim/notions/wish, that's quite another. I think sex goes with the physical, until whoever it is does something about that. Medically. Anything else is too confusing and dangerous for everybody concerned.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Absolutely the teacher was wrong; and should have been fired, if it is true that s/he lowered a grade BECAUSE a student was atheist, or if s/he attempted to proselyte anything at all at school, bibles or no.

However, the bit about using the wrong pronoun? No. If a transgender student is presented to the school BY HIS/HER GUARDIANS as the sex opposite of his/her physical one, that's one thing. However, if the problem is simply that the student claims to be one sex or the other according to his/her whim/notions/wish, that's quite another. I think sex goes with the physical, until whoever it is does something about that. Medically. Anything else is too confusing and dangerous for everybody concerned.
A problem too complex for simple rules.
But simple rules are about all schools can handle.
This won't be settled any time soon.
 

Nakosis

Non-Binary Physicalist
Premium Member
A Republican Arizona state representative has introduced three laws that propose mandating binary sex identification on state documents and legally allowing public school employees to discriminate against transgender students by referring to them with incorrect pronouns......
Rep. John Fillmore proposed House Bill 2082 for the upcoming legislative session, according to a Tuesday report in the Arizona Mirror. The bill would prevent public schools from penalizing employees who use incorrect pronouns for transgender students. It would also prohibit schools from requiring that employees use correct pronouns for students, unless the pronoun "corresponds to the sex listed on that student's birth certificate."

A recent incident that would likely have had a different outcome under the proposed law involved an Arizona teacher who was fired in September 2019. The teacher allegedly insisted on using incorrect pronouns for transgender students, and failed one student for a school project that referred to gender identity. The teacher was also said to have lowered the grade of a student that admitted to being an atheist while proselytizing Christianity and attempting to distribute Bibles to students in class.

Although the law would seemingly help teachers legally discriminate against transgender students, Fillmore insisted the proposal was aimed at helping schools focus on issues like simple math instead of "sexual stuff."

Arizona Republican Proposes Trio of Laws That Would Allow Schools to Discriminate Against Transgender Students

Maybe kids ought to learn early that the world is not necessarily going to cater to their personal identity.
 

Saint Frankenstein

Wanderer From Afar
Premium Member
Maybe kids ought to learn early that the world is not necessarily going to cater to their personal identity.
Let's call you by female pronouns and a female name and force you to have those on all your legal documents, treat you like a woman, restrict you from using male facilities and scoff, bully and harass you when you say otherwise. Let's do that for the rest of your life and see how you like it.
 
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Nakosis

Non-Binary Physicalist
Premium Member
That's a good lesson to teach kids. Accept your fate, and don't fight for anything. Just lube up and take it.

Actually the lesson would be to not leave your fate in the hands of the rest of the world. If you can find happiness inside yourself, no one can take it from you.
 

Nakosis

Non-Binary Physicalist
Premium Member
Let's call you by female pronouns and a female name and force you to have those on all your legal documents, treat you like a woman, restrict you from using male facilities and scoff, bully and harass you when you say otherwise. Let's do that for the rest of your life and see how you like it.

Exactly, why should my happiness be dependent on should you do? Why should you be the one who controls how I feel about myself.
 

Saint Frankenstein

Wanderer From Afar
Premium Member
Exactly, why should my happiness be dependent on should you do? Why should you be the one who controls how I feel about myself.
Wow, you really don't get it. Humans are social animals and not being seen for who you know yourself to be, let alone people going out of their way to disrespect or bully you over it, is very detrimental to psychological health. Something like half of trans people attempt suicide. This isn't something you can just brush off.
 
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