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Trump Will Start the End of the World, Claim Evangelicals Who Support Him

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The world is on fire
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Trump Will Start the End of the World, Claim Evangelicals Who Support Him

Evangelical Christians overwhelmingly support President Donald Trump because they believe he'll cause the world to end.
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"What kick-starts the end times into motion is Israel's political boundaries being reestablished to what God promised the Israelites according to the Bible," Nate Pyle, a pastor and author of a book about Jesus, told Newsweek.
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"Evangelicals view themselves as sympathetic to Israel, but the underlying belief is motivated by a desire to see the Jewish people 'turn to Jesus,'" Blake Chastain, a former evangelical who hosts a podcast on evangelicalism, told Newsweek. Chastain, who grew up in an evangelical family, dedicates his time to explaining what he calls the "subculture" of evangelicalism. He said the evangelical belief that Jews will eventually accept Jesus is problematic.
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To be sure, Trump's stance on Jerusalem isn't the only reason evangelicals support him. During his campaign for president, Trump promised to protect religious liberties and elect anti-choice Supreme Court Justices.
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"For his evangelical supporters, there's a sense that Trump's unlikely election to the presidency proves that he has been chosen by God," Young told Newsweek. "He shouldn't have won the election, so the thinking goes, so the fact that he did—and that victory came only via the Electoral College, no less—just demonstrates that only God could make it happen."
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
Trump Will Start the End of the World, Claim Evangelicals Who Support Him

Evangelical Christians overwhelmingly support President Donald Trump because they believe he'll cause the world to end.
...
"What kick-starts the end times into motion is Israel's political boundaries being reestablished to what God promised the Israelites according to the Bible," Nate Pyle, a pastor and author of a book about Jesus, told Newsweek.
...
"Evangelicals view themselves as sympathetic to Israel, but the underlying belief is motivated by a desire to see the Jewish people 'turn to Jesus,'" Blake Chastain, a former evangelical who hosts a podcast on evangelicalism, told Newsweek. Chastain, who grew up in an evangelical family, dedicates his time to explaining what he calls the "subculture" of evangelicalism. He said the evangelical belief that Jews will eventually accept Jesus is problematic.
...
To be sure, Trump's stance on Jerusalem isn't the only reason evangelicals support him. During his campaign for president, Trump promised to protect religious liberties and elect anti-choice Supreme Court Justices.
...
"For his evangelical supporters, there's a sense that Trump's unlikely election to the presidency proves that he has been chosen by God," Young told Newsweek. "He shouldn't have won the election, so the thinking goes, so the fact that he did—and that victory came only via the Electoral College, no less—just demonstrates that only God could make it happen."
An almost two year old article, but surprisingly apt for today.
 

stvdv

Veteran Member: I Share (not Debate) my POV
Trump Will Start the End of the World, Claim Evangelicals Who Support Him

Evangelical Christians overwhelmingly support President Donald Trump because they believe he'll cause the world to end.
...
"What kick-starts the end times into motion is Israel's political boundaries being reestablished to what God promised the Israelites according to the Bible," Nate Pyle, a pastor and author of a book about Jesus, told Newsweek.
...
"Evangelicals view themselves as sympathetic to Israel, but the underlying belief is motivated by a desire to see the Jewish people 'turn to Jesus,'" Blake Chastain, a former evangelical who hosts a podcast on evangelicalism, told Newsweek. Chastain, who grew up in an evangelical family, dedicates his time to explaining what he calls the "subculture" of evangelicalism. He said the evangelical belief that Jews will eventually accept Jesus is problematic.
...
To be sure, Trump's stance on Jerusalem isn't the only reason evangelicals support him. During his campaign for president, Trump promised to protect religious liberties and elect anti-choice Supreme Court Justices.
...
"For his evangelical supporters, there's a sense that Trump's unlikely election to the presidency proves that he has been chosen by God," Young told Newsweek. "He shouldn't have won the election, so the thinking goes, so the fact that he did—and that victory came only via the Electoral College, no less—just demonstrates that only God could make it happen."
People claiming "my way is the highway for all" shows an abundance lack of respect and arrogance and belittling.

But these evangelicals take Religion to a completely new level of utter stupidity IMO.

Atheists need not worry, religious people seem to self destruct (credibility) completely, so Atheism will be left (as sane) in the world. And reading this, I am glad. Most Atheists have common sense luckily. That seems to have vanished in these evangelicals. This is the most sick story I read so far.

I recently told someone "I won't be surprised if there are Christians who will do their utmost best to make certain prophecies happen". Seems to be true.
 

Stevicus

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"For his evangelical supporters, there's a sense that Trump's unlikely election to the presidency proves that he has been chosen by God," Young told Newsweek. "He shouldn't have won the election, so the thinking goes, so the fact that he did—and that victory came only via the Electoral College, no less—just demonstrates that only God could make it happen."

Well, if Trump was chosen by God, then I guess that settles it. Is God making any endorsements for 2020?
 

Stevicus

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Staff member
Premium Member
"May the Blessings of the Bomb Almighty, and the Fellowship of the Holy Fallout, descend upon us all. This day and forever more."

 

wellwisher

Well-Known Member
That is to dismiss them to easily. They are hazardous to the health of democracy.

The US is a Republic and not a Democracy. In a Republic, the citizens elect officials who make laws for them. In a true Democracy, the people, themselves make choices, instead of hand off to Legislators. Referendums are closer to how a Democracy works. Each person gets to vote directly for an issue. In a Republic, people are less directly involved and let elected officials do the work.

If a Republic is filled with corrupt people or partition politics, this can be hazardous to a Democracy. For one thing nothing will get done and the will of the people is made moot. Or things will be forced on the people, which they did not want. For example, Sanctuary Cities were not voted on by the people in a referendum. This was forced on people by partition corruption in the Republic.

The Swamp or deep state is also a hazard to the health of Democracy. As the Democrats showed, during the impeachment trial, and during the collusion delusion, even due process, and innocent until proven guilty, which is a right for all citizens, can be jeopardized by a corrupt Republic. A corrupt Republic can also allow itself to spy on citizens, against the laws of the Constitution.

Another hazard to a Democracy is Big money influence on the Republic. This is where a minority of citizens, can shift the rule of law, away from the will of the people, in the direction of their own favor through donations and golden parachutes. Large campaign donations makes some citizens count for more than one.

Another hazard to Democracy is bureaucracy. Lingering capacitance of people, loyal to a past Republic, can neutralize the real time will of the people, by foot dragging and sabotage. The Democrat led Swamp took advantage of all these hazardous things. However the will of the people prevailed, due to loyal leaders in the Republic, who maintain the promises for why they were elected; will of the people.
 

stvdv

Veteran Member: I Share (not Debate) my POV
Well, if Trump was chosen by God, then I guess that settles it. Is God making any endorsements for 2020?
IMO:
I come to a different conclusion here.

All these evangelicals have zero connection with their God.

They only follow their own "crazy monkey mind" believing it to be God.

To believe it, does not make it happen; unless we let them, and we keep believing this non-sense talk and keep such people in powerful places.

It's time to say NO to such Christians, unless you don't mind them destroying the whole world. There are 2000 million Christians at least (in high places and rich with nukes at their disposal). Do not under estimate their power, esp. if they are radical in their belief (which this OP clearly shows).

"My way is the highway for all" is a poisonous and dangerous ideology for all,
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Every politician should be required to answer one question....
Do you believe it's a good thing to bring about armageddon?
 

Heyo

Veteran Member
Trump Will Start the End of the World, Claim Evangelicals Who Support Him

Evangelical Christians overwhelmingly support President Donald Trump because they believe he'll cause the world to end.
...
"What kick-starts the end times into motion is Israel's political boundaries being reestablished to what God promised the Israelites according to the Bible," Nate Pyle, a pastor and author of a book about Jesus, told Newsweek.
...
"Evangelicals view themselves as sympathetic to Israel, but the underlying belief is motivated by a desire to see the Jewish people 'turn to Jesus,'" Blake Chastain, a former evangelical who hosts a podcast on evangelicalism, told Newsweek. Chastain, who grew up in an evangelical family, dedicates his time to explaining what he calls the "subculture" of evangelicalism. He said the evangelical belief that Jews will eventually accept Jesus is problematic.
...
To be sure, Trump's stance on Jerusalem isn't the only reason evangelicals support him. During his campaign for president, Trump promised to protect religious liberties and elect anti-choice Supreme Court Justices.
...
"For his evangelical supporters, there's a sense that Trump's unlikely election to the presidency proves that he has been chosen by God," Young told Newsweek. "He shouldn't have won the election, so the thinking goes, so the fact that he did—and that victory came only via the Electoral College, no less—just demonstrates that only God could make it happen."
Immanentize the eschaton (Immanentize the eschaton - Wikipedia) is an old idea. I learned about it from the Illuminatus! trilogy in the '80s.
 

sooda

Veteran Member
Trump Will Start the End of the World, Claim Evangelicals Who Support Him

Evangelical Christians overwhelmingly support President Donald Trump because they believe he'll cause the world to end.
...
"What kick-starts the end times into motion is Israel's political boundaries being reestablished to what God promised the Israelites according to the Bible," Nate Pyle, a pastor and author of a book about Jesus, told Newsweek.
...
"Evangelicals view themselves as sympathetic to Israel, but the underlying belief is motivated by a desire to see the Jewish people 'turn to Jesus,'" Blake Chastain, a former evangelical who hosts a podcast on evangelicalism, told Newsweek. Chastain, who grew up in an evangelical family, dedicates his time to explaining what he calls the "subculture" of evangelicalism. He said the evangelical belief that Jews will eventually accept Jesus is problematic.
...
To be sure, Trump's stance on Jerusalem isn't the only reason evangelicals support him. During his campaign for president, Trump promised to protect religious liberties and elect anti-choice Supreme Court Justices.
...
"For his evangelical supporters, there's a sense that Trump's unlikely election to the presidency proves that he has been chosen by God," Young told Newsweek. "He shouldn't have won the election, so the thinking goes, so the fact that he did—and that victory came only via the Electoral College, no less—just demonstrates that only God could make it happen."

Idiots.

Are their evangelical sons enlisting?
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
The US is a Republic and not a Democracy.
We have what's called a "representative democracy" as there are numerous forms of democracy: Democracy - Wikipedia

What's called "direct democracy" is but one form.
For example, Sanctuary Cities were not voted on by the people in a referendum.
Most laws are not voted on directly by the people, and this also includes elections, such as that which Trump won in 2016 through the Electoral College.

The Swamp or deep state is also a hazard to the health of Democracy. As the Democrats showed, during the impeachment trial, and during the collusion delusion, even due process, and innocent until proven guilty, which is a right for all citizens, can be jeopardized by a corrupt Republic.
You conveniently left out "obstruction of justice", which the Mueller Report clearly stated he could be charged with once out of office.

Another hazard to a Democracy is Big money influence on the Republic.
And the biggest of the BIG MONEY is not with the Democrats. Please do the research.

The Democrat led Swamp took advantage of all these hazardous things.
Sorry, but you got your parties mixed up.

Trump is a large part of "the Swamp", especially with his crony capitalism. His administration has pushed corruption to an extreme, and so much of his amoral behavior is clearly anti-Judeo-Christian.

He definitely does not relate well at all to Catholic social teachings. He is a materialistic and hedonistic bully, who is highly self-centered, and who has bragged that he doesn't need God's forgiveness for anything, and also that he doesn't need to pray. Does this sound "Catholic" to you?

Here, maybe read this c-a-r-e-f-u-l-l-y: Legal affairs of Donald Trump - Wikipedia
 

Sand Dancer

Crazy Cat Lady
We have what's called a "representative democracy" as there are numerous forms of democracy: Democracy - Wikipedia

What's called "direct democracy" is but one form.
Most laws are not voted on directly by the people, and this also includes elections, such as that which Trump won in 2016 through the Electoral College.

You conveniently left out "obstruction of justice", which the Mueller Report clearly stated he could be charged with once out of office.

And the biggest of the BIG MONEY is not with the Democrats. Please do the research.

Sorry, but you got your parties mixed up.

Trump is a large part of "the Swamp", especially with his crony capitalism. His administration has pushed corruption to an extreme, and so much of his amoral behavior is clearly anti-Judeo-Christian.

He definitely does not relate well at all to Catholic social teachings. He is a materialistic and hedonistic bully, who is highly self-centered, and who has bragged that he doesn't need God's forgiveness for anything, and also that he doesn't need to pray. Does this sound "Catholic" to you?

Here, maybe read this c-a-r-e-f-u-l-l-y: Legal affairs of Donald Trump - Wikipedia
I was going to say something. Thank you.
 

stvdv

Veteran Member: I Share (not Debate) my POV
He is a materialistic and hedonistic bully, who is highly self-centered, and who has bragged that he doesn't need God's forgiveness for anything, and also that he doesn't need to pray. Does this sound "Catholic" to you?
That sounds (IS) narcissistic. A narc thinks he is God and people should treat him as such.

Here, maybe read this c-a-r-e-f-u-l-l-y: Legal affairs of Donald Trump - Wikipedia
I didn't know anything about D.T, but seeing just his face, I kind of suspected him to be like described in this wiki.

I don't worry about D.T, what is more bothersome is that people want him to be their President I think.
 

sooda

Veteran Member
We have what's called a "representative democracy" as there are numerous forms of democracy: Democracy - Wikipedia

What's called "direct democracy" is but one form.
Most laws are not voted on directly by the people, and this also includes elections, such as that which Trump won in 2016 through the Electoral College.

You conveniently left out "obstruction of justice", which the Mueller Report clearly stated he could be charged with once out of office.

And the biggest of the BIG MONEY is not with the Democrats. Please do the research.

Sorry, but you got your parties mixed up.

Trump is a large part of "the Swamp", especially with his crony capitalism. His administration has pushed corruption to an extreme, and so much of his amoral behavior is clearly anti-Judeo-Christian.

He definitely does not relate well at all to Catholic social teachings. He is a materialistic and hedonistic bully, who is highly self-centered, and who has bragged that he doesn't need God's forgiveness for anything, and also that he doesn't need to pray. Does this sound "Catholic" to you?

Here, maybe read this c-a-r-e-f-u-l-l-y: Legal affairs of Donald Trump - Wikipedia

Trump's legal track record is horrible.
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
I don't worry about D.T, what is more bothersome is that people want him to be their President I think.
Actually there could be plenty to worry about.

I think that it is likely that if Trump loses in the 2020 election that he would not step down, and I'm afraid that the congressional Republicans might well support him on the basis that the election "was fraudulent". If that were to happen, and Michael Cohen ("Trump's fixer") thinks Trump would not be likely to step down, we then would have a very serious constitutional crisis.

Once Trump is out of office, he well knows he can be charged with numerous crimes based on the findings of the Mueller report in terms of "obstruction of justice". Other charges could also be levied against him based on ongoing investigations, including that of the Southern District of New York.

The congressional Pubs, otoh, well know that the future demographics of the country is working against them. Therefore, both could have the motivation to not declare any Dem being the winner, first attempting to tie the election up in the court system, and then if that doesn't work to then just ignore any court ruling.

If the above were to happen, we then would slip into an autocracy.
 
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