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Iran-US War heats up

Saint Frankenstein

Wanderer From Afar
Premium Member
Iran might not be a serious threat to us Americans here in North America, but I'd consider Iran now being a clear and present danger to American troops in Afghanistan, Iraq, Israel, Kuwait, Oman, Pakistan, the Persian Gulf, Saudi Arabia, Syria, Turkey, Qatar, and the United Arab Emirates.

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Lol, that's like saying Roman troops on the frontier of the empire were endangered by the indigenous tribes not under their domain merely existing by them. :rolleyes:
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
There have been no people in America killed by Iranians, but hundreds of American troops have been killed or maimed by Iranian-made explosive devices in Iraqi, also insurgents in Iraq supplied with Iranian weapons have killed or maimed hundreds of American troops.
IOW, the death toll for Iranians is still far higher than for Ameristanians.
I wonder....
We attack Iran, & we attack its neighbors, & meddle in their affairs,
creating a vast military presence around them.
Does Iran have forces in Canuckistan & Mexico?
Would it be right if they did...or would it be a threat we'd fight?
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber
Iran might not be a serious threat to us Americans here in North America, but I'd consider Iran now being a clear and present danger to American troops in Afghanistan, Iraq, Israel, Kuwait, Oman, Pakistan, the Persian Gulf, Saudi Arabia, Syria, Turkey, Qatar, and the United Arab Emirates.
They dont pose a threat there. They come here. Moreso to Europe. As extremists and radicals.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
How can you laugh at the fact people are going to die? Are you psychotic?
I think what we commonly see is the us-vs-them perspective.
- We're good. They're evil.
- We've done nothing wrong. They've wronged us.
- We have God on our side. They follow the false god, Allah.
- We're here. They're very far away.
- We're familiar. They're nobody.
- Our lives matter greatly. One life lost is a tragedy.
Their lives don't matter. Their deaths are only statistics.
- We're smart & sophisticated. They're primitive & dumb.
- We're powerful. They're easily defeated.
- We're polite. They say hurtful things about us.

Did I forget anything?
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber
Did I forget anything?
Not that I know of. It's disturbing and disgusting that things like religion and nationalism can sever feelings of empathy. That takes extra effort for the autistic. And we understand war comes with death, destruction, lives ruined, homes destroyed, and hated that seethes and festers for generations. What is there excuse? Why can't they understand that? How do they reach the point where they believe those things you listed?
 

sun rise

The world is on fire
Premium Member
But he says....
“We have God on our side.”

How can we lose?
The infidel will be smited.
OK....that was just sarcasm.
Seriously though, I just felt a disturbance in the force.
A thousand Christians just converted to atheism after hearing Trump's exhortation.

Among many extremely wise things Abraham Lincoln said, this one applies here and now at least to those who believe in God:

Sir, my concern is not whether God is on our side; my greatest concern is to be on God's side, for God is always right.
 

sun rise

The world is on fire
Premium Member
Does the red flag have a bullseye on it? That would make targeting it easier.
Since when has war been something to joke about? I guess pain, suffering and are just all so funny as long as they happen to someone else.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Not that I know of. It's disturbing and disgusting that things like religion and nationalism can sever feelings of empathy. That takes extra effort for the autistic. And we understand war comes with death, destruction, lives ruined, homes destroyed, and hated that seethes and festers for generations. What is there excuse? Why can't they understand that? How do they reach the point where they believe those things you listed?
Perhaps those of us who are empathy challenged see the rights
of others more strongly precisely because they're on par with our
own people? Not sharing the tribal bond enables more dispassionate
evaluation. Their world of intense unmanaged emotion is dangerous.
Neurotypicals....they aren't suited for being in power, eh.

Btw, I also have a selfish perspective. The wars have been wasteful
& economically damaging. The over-reaction to 9/11 cost me greatly
on a couple major projects. Another war likely wouldn't hurt me now,
but I loathe waste.
 

McBell

Resident Sourpuss
I think what we commonly see is the us-vs-them perspective.
- We're good. They're evil.
- We've done nothing wrong. They've wronged us.
- We have God on our side. They follow the false god, Allah.
- We're here. They're very far away.
- We're familiar. They're nobody.
- Our lives matter greatly. One life lost is a tragedy.
Their lives don't matter. Their deaths are only statistics.
- We're smart & sophisticated. They're primitive & dumb.
- We're powerful. They're easily defeated.
- We're polite. They say hurtful things about us.

Did I forget anything?
-They started it. we didn't
- I know you are, but what am I?
 

Shad

Veteran Member
Donald Trump warns Iran that 'we have targeted 52 Iranian sites' if any Americans are attacked

Iran Unfurls Red Flag of War Over the Holy Dome of Jamkarān Mosque

Earlier today, the authorities of the Islamic Republic of Iran raised the Red Flag of Hussein over the Holy Dome of Jamkaran Mosque, in Qom. The raising of the red flag gives a precise signal – it indicates that a major war is to come or is even now underway.

Reports so far indicate that this is the first time Iran has unfurled this flag over the Holy Dome, a flag steeped in religious symbolism relating to Islamic eschatology, the end times, and the specter of total war of epic and religious proportions.

This is not a flag of mourning, or of somber remembrance. It is a flag indicating that Iran is mobilizing its entire society towards a conflict never before seen. Bear in mind that this flag was not unfurled even during the Iran-Iraq war.

Still not a war.

Iran threatened revenge. The list is how the US will make life hard to Iran if Iran chooses to act recklessly, again.
 
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