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Do we Realize Isaiah 13:10 Prophesied Betelgeuse Will go Supernova?

Do you accept Judgement Day is soon?

  • Yes

    Votes: 5 16.1%
  • No

    Votes: 22 71.0%
  • Other...?

    Votes: 4 12.9%

  • Total voters
    31

wizanda

One Accepts All Religious Texts
Premium Member
There is obviously nothing more that can be said to you that isn't a complete waste of time.
What you're not getting is everything gets reset, it is the End of Time; then we will be infinite after, you're like I'm putting forward "the Time is Near" to get followers...

Like some how I'm threatening to create fear, to make people listen or follow to what is being said...

This is not the case, I'm merely here with my name in many of the world's religious texts, before the Great Tribulation to show the details in the texts, and where people were failures.

No one can follow me, as we have to be a genius of spirituality in many religions, to even remotely understand where I'm coming from.

Therefore the question, and derived rejection of the answer, is a lack of logic in contexts.

In my opinion. :innocent:
 

9-10ths_Penguin

1/10 Subway Stalinist
Premium Member

Left Coast

This Is Water
Staff member
Premium Member
It seems soon based on all the prophecies, thus who needs dates, when we have data from some of the most advanced minds in human history.

Every part of that sentence is incorrect.

Lol, that is comical just make up my history.

I made nothing up. I literally quoted you.

Used to be on the 2012 forums explaining Biblical contradictions at the time, due to not being sure if the Mayan calendar is accurate with our current date.

Cool. The article I posted was from 2011.

I was told before I can remember the Tribulation will happen in my life time, I've then studied lots to question what others have thought; to dismiss things without examination is illogical.

We aren't talking just generically about the Tribulation; we were talking specifically about Betelgeuse going supernova. You didn't learn about that until scientists publicized their research about it, before your statements in 2012.

My statement in 2012 was correct, and now it has just increased in potentiality.

And you learned the stuff about Betelgeuse in 2012 from scientists, not from studying Scripture.
 

wizanda

One Accepts All Religious Texts
Premium Member
And you learned the stuff about Betelgeuse in 2012 from scientists, not from studying Scripture.
Oh my word you're doing it again, you're telling me where I learned about the Great Tribulation. :confused:

I've been told as a child in visions from before I remember, at 15 years old the Source of reality explained certain events, at 21 on fulfilling Revelation 10, I was told certain things.

Then on studying the religions globally as asked to do by the Source I've learned certain things, so because the science correlates with the religions as one, I've been posting it online for others before it happens.

I'm doing a job working for the Source of reality as I've been informed of what to expect, and the data adds up to be logical, thus I state it.

In my opinion. :innocent:
 

Left Coast

This Is Water
Staff member
Premium Member
Oh my word you're doing it again, you're telling me where I learned about the Great Tribulation. :confused:

Oh my word you're doing it again, conflating generic belief in the Great Tribulation with specific knowledge of Betelgeuse going supernova. :confused:

I've been told as a child in visions from before I remember, at 15 years old the Source of reality explained certain events, at 21 on fulfilling Revelation 10, I was told certain things.

Then on studying the religions globally as asked to do by the Source I've learned certain things, so because the science correlates with the religions as one, I've been posting it online for others before it happens.

I'm doing a job working for the Source of reality as I've been informed of what to expect, and the data adds up to be logical, thus I state it.

The data you learned about Betelgeuse going supernova you learned from scientists, not from studying Scripture. If you can demonstrate that you knew about Betelgeuse going supernova before scientists published research about it, then come back and show us that. You haven't done so yet.

You learned about Betelgeuse the way everyone else did.
 

wizanda

One Accepts All Religious Texts
Premium Member
Sooooo... still not nova yet. Just sayin'
I'm looking forward to it to, as if all these prophecies are right globally, then all the wicked get removed from reality at the same time. Just sayin.

Be aware Christianity is Antichrist's teachings (John, Paul, and Simon), and I've explained this in precise detail before Judgement Day.

In my opinion. :innocent:
 

Kangaroo Feathers

Yea, it is written in the Book of Cyril...
I'm looking forward to it to, as if all these prophecies are right globally, then all the wicked get removed from reality at the same time. Just sayin.

Be aware Christianity is Antichrist's teachings (John, Paul, and Simon), and I've explained this in precise detail before Judgement Day.

In my opinion. :innocent:
Still no nova.
 

McBell

Resident Sourpuss
Do you realize this is literally what the Quran says in chapter 43:60-77, that Christ is here with clear signs to fix everything, and everyone waits for the Fire to burn them.

Soon is before WW3 according to Yeshua, and Isaiah or our real name Yeshayahu (ישׁעיהו) and Yehoshua (יהושׁע); which are versions of the same person, who was symbolically named by Moses, if we take on board reincarnation (Gilgul).

It is like Cassandra warning Troy throughout time, as different characters in books, that these things will soon happen, and unfortunately it appears none will take it seriously; yet at least it shows prophecy is real, and people are Jokers (כסיליהם).

In Greek culture Zan is a spelling of Zeus; so Cassandra was an anagram of our name anyway.

Thus it seems the Fire is in the next few days before War, and then after the age of Godliness, as it is a bit pointless trying to convince people to listen to their own religious texts books.

Plus apparently the Elite's Emperor Trump on Twitter, is more important than an Elohim (Divine Being) as Messiah on Religious Forums. :oops:

In my opinion. :innocent:
So basically, all you got is that at some point in time a star is going to go supernova?
Which is exactly what ALL stars do.
 

wizanda

One Accepts All Religious Texts
Premium Member
specific knowledge of Betelgeuse going supernova.
The specific knowledge of Betelgeuse was I've been told a Fire is coming in a series of events, where Trump starts the Tribulation; that was all from the Source at 15 years old.

At 15 I was told to read the religious texts, and later have Googled the science as it correlated with the religious data.

We can show the thread on my site of me being told by Source in 2009 something was coming from the sun, and then Googled stuff about our sun.

It wasn't until I saw Isaiah 13:10 during debating about Biblical constellations on a 2012 forum, I realized it might be another sun in 2012.

In my opinion. :innocent:
 

wizanda

One Accepts All Religious Texts
Premium Member
So basically, all you got is that at some point in time a star is going to go supernova?
Regardless of anything to do with me, it is the End of Time for many, and the religious texts all confirm one sent before the End as a Sign, before we come to an Age of Enlightenment.

The Fire coming will reset reality, and then after it will be Paradise again for those who have chosen to be worthy; most people are so ignorant down here, they literally insult the doorman with the guest-list.

In my opinion. :innocent:
 

Left Coast

This Is Water
Staff member
Premium Member
The specific knowledge of Betelgeuse was I've been told a Fire is coming in a series of events, where Trump starts the Tribulation; that was all from the Source at 15 years old.

"A fire is coming" is not specific. "Betelgeuse will go supernova" is specific. Please learn the difference. And there's no indication a Betelgeuse supernova would "rain fire" down on us anyway. It's hundreds of light years away. It'll be like a bright star in the sky.

We can show the thread on my site of me being told by Source in 2009 something was coming from the sun, and then Googled stuff about our sun.

Betelgeuse isn't our sun, so nope, still not it.

It wasn't until I saw Isaiah 13:10 during debating about Biblical constellations on a 2012 forum, I realized it might be another sun in 2012.

Which is after scientists published research about it. You learned about Betelgeuse from scientists, not Scripture. Why is this so hard for you to admit?
 

wizanda

One Accepts All Religious Texts
Premium Member
And there's no indication a Betelgeuse supernova would "rain fire" down on us anyway.
Read Isaiah 13, Isaiah 24, Isaiah 34, Deuteronomy 29:19-27; also Zoroastrian, Islamic, & Hindu texts, etc...

Then when we understand the context of the Lake of Fire, that is described as coming from the sky in one day.

Where Isaiah 13:10, Amos 5:8 describe it coming from the Sun in Orion.

Zechariah 14 literally described it coming as Judgement Day Fire.

Thank you for arguing the point, you make me realize how the Bible was quite specific...

There are loads more verses across the Bible: In Revelation 16:8-9 the 4th Bowl, and the 4th Trumpet in Revelation 8:12, describe the Sun scorching earth, and removing 2/3's like in Zechariah 13:9.
Why is this so hard for you to admit?
I've stated my case; making up my witness is not logical, and a bit scary mentally to keep insisting what someone else knows. :oops:

In my opinion. :innocent:
 
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McBell

Resident Sourpuss
Regardless of anything to do with me, it is the End of Time for many, and the religious texts all confirm one sent before the End as a Sign, before we come to an Age of Enlightenment.

The Fire coming will reset reality, and then after it will be Paradise again for those who have chosen to be worthy; most people are so ignorant down here, they literally insult the doorman with the guest-list.

In my opinion. :innocent:
Ah, so the "prophecy" part is that when this star goes supernova, it will take out the earth?
 

Left Coast

This Is Water
Staff member
Premium Member
Read Isaiah 13, Isaiah 24, Isaiah 34, Deuteronomy 29:19-27; also Zoroastrian, Islamic, & Hindu texts, etc...

Then when we understand the context of the Lake of Fire, that is described as coming from the sky in one day.

Where Isaiah 13:10, Amos 5:8 describe it coming from the Sun in Orion.

Zechariah 14 literally described it coming as Judgement Day Fire.

None of this mentions Betelgeuse going supernova. Which is why you didn't make any mention of it until 2012, after it was the subject of multiple popular science articles that stirred up conjecture about it. You learned about it from that, not from Scripture.

Thank you for arguing the point, you make me realize how the Bible was quite specific...

There are loads more verses across the Bible: In Revelation 16:8-9 the 4th Bowl, and the 4th Trumpet in Revelation 8:12, describe the Sun scorching earth, and removing 2/3's like in Zechariah 13:9.

None of that mentions Betelgeuse going supernova. For the second time, Betelgeuse is not our Sun.

I've stated my case; making up my witness is not logical, and a bit scary mentally to keep insisting what someone else knows. :oops:

It's scary and illogical to claim you knew something when all the evidence shows you didn't, until scientists made it known. Your projection is transparent.
 

wizanda

One Accepts All Religious Texts
Premium Member
Ah, so the "prophecy" part is that when this star goes supernova, it will take out the earth?
My comprehension from prophecy is in Isaiah 24:14-23 the ground shall be disintegrated by the photon charge; it will break down matter partially, so the demons fall into no where below us.

Then after we will have a newly created Paradise earth, as this is all consciousness, and reality can be manifest by the higher beings who made earth to begin with.

Since the Source can assess 'those who praise', which is the meaning of Yehudah (Judah); it will keep those who have already understood, where after we live for infinity in a more spiritual reality.

In my opinion. :innocent:
 

wizanda

One Accepts All Religious Texts
Premium Member
You learned about it from that, not from Scripture.
Rubbish, I remember my shock at finding scripture is right, which is why I posted it on my FB after... You can't make up my life, it isn't fair.
For the second time, Betelgeuse is not our Sun.
Since Isaiah 13:10 and Amos 5:8 literally say Orion is the sun that shall be darkened... This is why I Googled Orion, and found out about Betelgeuse in 2012.

Since most of the other signs prophesied globally are happening, and felt something on the 24th of December, doubled check Betelgeuse news again to see if it was timed right with everything else prophesied.
It's scary and illogical to claim you knew something when all the evidence shows you didn't, until scientists made it known. Your projection is transparent.
As someone capable of proving they're an Archangel, and the Messiah sent from Heaven before Judgement day, with first hand knowledge of events since birth; arguing with me about my own memory of events is illogical sorry. :oops:

In my opinion. :innocent:
 

nPeace

Veteran Member
This is a silly mistake many make, like they take a verse to accuse the Messiah, and forget it is our words, plus they miss all the context provided.

Matthew 24:42-51 watch therefore, for you don’t know in what hour your Lord comes.

Matthew 25:1-13 is the wise and foolish virgins meeting Christ at the Midnight Hour in the Sky, on the Clouds speaking on lightning, which is the internet.

In Luke 17:22-37 it shows that Christ comes back, is rejected by everyone in Luke 17:25, and then the Fire and Brimstone comes in Luke 17:37; which is a reference to the Lake of Fire 'vultures gathered' in Isaiah 34:15.

In Revelation 19:12 it tells us Christ has a new name only he knows, our name is Zanda or Zan for short, and since 4-5 years old, I've known prophetically our name is in the world's religious texts as one.

Revelation 3:12 He who overcomes, I will make him a pillar (Sandalphon) in the temple of my God, and he will go out from there no more. I will write on him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God (Zion - Psalms 146:10, Psalms 147:12, Isaiah 52:7), the new Jerusalem, which comes down out of heaven from my God, and my own new name (Sananda).

In Hebrew Zan is the Flock of Israel, and Zion is often used poetically as David's Flock (ציון ▬ צאן).

In my opinion. :innocent:
The mistakes are being made by false prophets.
(Ezekiel 13:3) This is what the Sovereign Lord Jehovah says: “Woe to the stupid prophets, who follow their own spirit, when they have seen nothing!
 

Left Coast

This Is Water
Staff member
Premium Member
Rubbish, I remember my shock at finding scripture is right, which is why I posted it on my FB after... You can't make up my life, it isn't fair.

You have showed zero evidence that you knew about it before everyone else. Your knowledge coincides with everyone else's.

Since Isaiah 13:10 and Amos 5:8 literally say Orion is the sun that shall be darkened...

No, they don't. 1) Orion isn't Betelgeuse. Betelgeuse is one star that makes one point of Orion. 2) Isaiah 13 says that all celestial bodies will be darkened: sun, moon, stars. It doesn't specify that only one will. 3) Amos 5:8 says God created Orion; it makes no prophecy at all, much less a prediction that Betelgeuse will supernova.

This is why I Googled Orion, and found out about Betelgeuse in 2012.

So, again, you found out about Betelgeuse through the mundane methods of all us mortals. You didn't learn about it from Scripture. Thank you.

As someone capable of proving they're an Archangel, and the Messiah sent from Heaven before Judgement day,

If you're capable, why haven't you done it? I waited for you to teleport to my house to have coffee with me this morning; you didn't show. :(

with first hand knowledge of events since birth; arguing with me about my own memory of events is illogical sorry. :oops:

I'm not arguing with you about your own memory. I'm arguing that you have no evidence that you discerned that Betelgeuse would go supernova before anyone else, much less from Scripture. All evidence indicates you learned about it through popular science articles, like everyone else. And now, above, you admitted that you didn't learn about it till 2012. It's illogical for you to claim you have supernatural powers when you have no evidence for them, sorry. :oops:
 

wizanda

One Accepts All Religious Texts
Premium Member
If you're capable, why haven't you done it?
It has been proven by the religious texts globally with my name in them, and the knowledge I've had since I can remember.

The only miracle for this wicked generation is Judgement Day, and then after those worthy shall exist in an Age of Godliness.
that you discerned that Betelgeuse would go supernova before anyone else, much less from Scripture.
The Gospels talk of the Sun and moon being darkened, so if we do Bible studies on this it becomes apparent Isaiah 13:10 is speaking about the constellation Orion...

In the 2012 forum which no longer exists, I did post had anyone noticed Biblically it isn't our sun blowing up, yet Betelgeuse based on exegesis in the Bible.

I wasn't the first in stating it is fact though, observation shows it is happening, and the Bible shows it was predicted by advanced beings who created our reality.
It's illogical for you to claim you have supernatural powers when you have no evidence for them
Not claimed supernatural powers, said the Source of reality said things that are in all the religious texts globally. :rolleyes:
Amos 5:8 says God created Orion; it makes no prophecy at all, much less a prediction that Betelgeuse will supernova.
The whole of Amos 5 is about Judgement Day... 'and turneth the shadow of death into the morning' is the same reference as Zechariah 14:7, where it shall become light at night.
Orion isn't Betelgeuse. Betelgeuse is one star that makes one point of Orion.
The Lord's Right Arm shall do Mighty things, and remove the wicked in a day.
Isaiah 13 says that all celestial bodies will be darkened: sun, moon, stars. It doesn't specify that only one will.
Yeah it might become a black hole from some of the prophecies, as the sky shall be rolled up like a scroll.

In my opinion. :innocent:
 
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