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In my understanding.even with the best teacher doesn't the student eventually have to become the teacher to have achieved the ultimate goal? in seeking god, brahman doesn't one have to become that?
John 5:19
Luke 6:40
Matthew 10:25
John 10:30
One cannot become that, unless one understands. Books do say "One who knows Brahman, verily becomes Brahman" (Brahma Veda Brahmaiva bhavati). This is the view in Advaita Hinduism (non-duality).in seeking god, brahman; doesn't one have to become that?
"...Kingdom of Heaven is near." .even with the best teacher doesn't the student eventually have to become the teacher to have achieved the ultimate goal? in seeking god, brahman doesn't one have to become that?
John 5:19
Luke 6:40
Matthew 10:25
John 10:30
That's interesting. Considering that Guru means one that leads you from darkness into light, or a "dispeller of darkness", I don't think that what's talking to the mind of a serial killer, since all of that is leading into darkness, not out of it. In other words, it's not an inner guru, but a psychological malfunction, a pathology which leads to death, not life.Moreover, the inner Guru is not always dependable. My inner guru is different from the inner guru of a serial killer.
so then, who is the original teacher who set this in motion?In my understanding.
The spiritual teacher/master can only give their teaching and install their mechanism for the cultivation to work for the student/cultivator to becoming enlightened.
It is always the student/Cultivator who must do the hard and difficult work of removing their own attachments to this physical world. removing/letting go of greed, anger, jealousy, hate, like/dislike, and so on. and that is not done in a day, but a lifetime of 24/7 cultivation of mind and body.
Belief is only getting you so far, but it is when removing oneself from the boundary of being a human being. that is how cultivation works. to elevate to a higher realm by doing cultivation. (religions does not teach that, they teach only belief this days)
If I knew the answer to this question I probably would be fully enlightening now, So even I wish I could answer your question, I honestly do not know.so then, who is the original teacher who set this in motion?
even with the best teacher doesn't the student eventually have to become the teacher to have achieved the ultimate goal?
so then, who is the original teacher who set this in motion?
wouldn't it have to be something inside the whole? or are you a panentheist? do you believe it was something outside the whole, or something within the absolute? are you dualist? or monist?If I knew the answer to this question I probably would be fully enlightening now, So even I wish I could answer your question, I honestly do not know.
I am a Falun Gong practitioner (i left buddhism when i realized i could not reach enlightenment there anymore) , and our master has not said who was the very first to create this universe or another universe/realms/dimensions. And it is not very important to know since it is now I do the cultivation toward enlightenment.wouldn't it have to be something inside the whole? or are you a panentheist? do you believe it was something outside the whole, or something within the absolute? are you dualist? or monist?
To me a true teacher helps the student to walk the path. The student must still do the walking. When the ultimate goal is achieved, the teacher, the student and the goal are experienced as One without a second.
In Eastern formulations, that figure is Nataraj, Lord of the Dance (of the universe).
This!the student eventually have to become the teacher to have achieved the ultimate goal