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Setting The Bible Reader Straight

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3rdAngel

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You claim that God didn’t write the Bible. Then how can the Bible be God’s words? Answer: it can’t. People wrote the Bible and it’s the words of people. “Inspiration” =\= dictation.

The answer is in the scripture that was provided did you read it? Here let me post the whole reference...

2 TIMOTHY 3:16 [16], All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness.

That's how :)
 

3rdAngel

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It means that it is a story and not a history account. Written by people.

Nope that is simple a statement from those who do not know God or believe his Word. We call these "unbelievers" in God's Word and "unbelievers" according to the scriptures end up in the lake of fire *2 Thessalonians 2:10-12; Luke 12:46; Romans 6:23; Revelation 20:15; Jude 1:5 because they did not believe and follow God's Word according to the scriptures. Not a very nice thing to look forward to if God's Word is true as it is a fearful thing to full into the hands of the living God come judgment day *Hebrews 10:26-39. In times of ignorance according to the scriptures God winks at but when he gives us a knowledge of His truth calls all men everywhere to believe and follow his Word *Acts 17:30-31.
 

3rdAngel

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Jesus put it on trial and he believed it. Jesus weighed the texts all the time. “It is written... but I tell you...”

We should always weigh the texts in order to determine their veracity and value for us. That’s why they’re there: to help us ask questions of ourselves and test our beliefs. That’s how they help keep us honest.

If you just take them at face value, they’re really not worth much, other than for confirmation bias.

Nope! JESUS gave a reason why those who did not believe his words were in error and in danger of the judgment and losing their salvation if they did not believe and follow him. Keep in mind that the Jewsprofessed already to believe and follow God's Word but did not know that the scriptures pointed to JESUS and God's plan of salvation for all mankind. They did not believe God's Word and denied the very one the scriptures they professed to believe and follow all pointed to. In essence this is the same outcome as those who do not believe and follow God's Word :)
 

3rdAngel

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But you ALSO say that the entire world flooded that one time, based on an ancient book of superstition written by people who didn't understand how to make Steel.

Who thought bats were the same as birds.

Who thought all insects have only 4 legs.

Who thought that pork was Magic, and should not be touched.

Who thought that Cotton and Linen in one garment was Magic and could not be worn.

Who thought that putting Peas next to Corn in one's garden invited Magic Pixies, which magically tainted the food.

Who believed that women during their monthlies were Magically Dirty.

Who thought *nothing* of selling their daughters as a sex slave, to pay debts.

So. Who cares what YOU believe, hmmm?

Hello my friend, nice to see you again. I am sorry but your post has no truth in it sadly. May I ask what brings you to a Religious forum? You sure like to talk about God a lot for someone that does not believe in him. I think deep down inside you know God is real and it worries you and it should if you find yourself as you do now fighting against him.

According to the scriptures though God is not willing for any of us to perish. He calls us to him through his Word. He is calling us all to return to him. It is not too late while we have the chance to hear his voice (the Word). If we deny his Word then he will deny us. It is his invitation to us to return to him. Many will be called but few are chosen when our life on earth here is over. So is the invitation to hear his Word.

On that day there is no more opportunities and invitations hear God's Word and to return to God. According to the scriptures we will all stand before God come judgment day and according to the scriptures it is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God. That is not the time to find out when you cannot prove God is not real today that God's is real and his Word is true. What will you choose before that time is up to you and no one else can make your decisions for you.

The choices you make now are between you and God alone. May you not harden your heart and choose wisely. Tommorrow may be too late. God is calling you and has led you here. He knows your pain and feels your hurt and why you do not ear his voice. You think he is not real, yet he is right next to you calling home but you are closing your ears so you do not hear him.
 

3rdAngel

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A circle is round, but by definition it is flat. A sphere is wholly different, geometrically, from a circle.

When the context of all the scriptures in relation to ISAIAH 40:22 are added from ISAIAH 40:17-25. The topic of conversation is not a flat earth. It is the omnipotence or greatness of God in relation to all mankind. The Hebrew definition of a single word in HEBREWS 40:22 in relation to God sitting on top of the circle of the earth H2329 חוּג; chûg From H2328; means a circle: - circle, circuit, compassive. This Hebrew words is applied to the rest of the Hebrew words in the scriputure in ISAIAH 40:22 and read in context of ISAIAH 40:17-25 to understand it's application and topic of conversation. No where in this chapter is it talking about a flat earth.

When applying the concepts of both the sciences of astrophysics and astronomy in application to ISAIAH 40:17-25 (read the passage if you do not believe me)...

The scriptures says that God sits, as a judge or governor upon his throne, upon the circle of the earth; or, above the circle; far above this round earth, even in the highest heavens; from whence he looketh down upon the earth, where men appear to him like grasshoppers. He alludes to one that looks down upon the earth below him from some high place. This is the context.

In space on the earth, above (upon) and below is wherever you maybe on the earth which is determined by gravity. There is no up and down in space as up and down is everywhere in space depending on where gravity is. "Down" is simply the direction gravity is pulling you, and "up" is just the opposite direction wherever you are on earth.

This means in the scriptures in Isaiah 40:15-25 that God is everywhere! Our planet is only one of many planets and stars in one of many universes and galaxies. Since there is gravity everywhere in space, there is also an up and down everywhere in all directions in space. There is no such thing as a flat earth in scripture. It is only you trying to deny God's Word with your own words which are not God's Word but your words because you do not know God or his Word.

Your welcome :)
 

3rdAngel

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No, only in your dreams. When I tried to discuss it you ran away. That is why we are back to concentrating on your earlier errors.
Geee I must have missed that part can you post me the link? Well, you know your not telling the truth here. I will leave that between you and God.
 

Bob the Unbeliever

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The answer is in the scripture that was provided did you read it? Here let me post the whole reference...

2 TIMOTHY 3:16 [16], All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness.

That's how :)

If that is true? Then? Your god is a monster.

Your god inspired Exodus 21: Wherein slaves are condoned, and their care is discussed. Never prohibited.

Vile, Evil at best.
 

Subduction Zone

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The answer is in the scripture that was provided did you read it? Here let me post the whole reference...

2 TIMOTHY 3:16 [16], All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness.

That's how :)
One note on that verse. It is abused by apologists quite often. It does not state that the Bible is correct. It only says that it is inspired by God and is useful. So though the Genesis stories are all clearly false they still can teach a lesson in morals. But in no way does that support your claims that the Bible is without error. And of course using the Bible to "prove" the Bible is only circular reasoning. It builds a house of cards that collapses at the first breeze. It is why wise Christians do not make the error of breaking the Second Commandment by treating the Bible as a "graven image".
 

Bob the Unbeliever

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Many things before science discovered it would have been thought as magic before it was discovered :)

False. Once a person recognizes that "magic" is not real, and is never has valid explainatory power?

Then it never is valid for anything-- because the person knows better.

Once? Everyone just knew, that Lightning was from Magic from Zeus (or some other Sky God).

Now? We understand what lighting actually is: Static Electricity, created when mass volumes of air are moved rapidly across the lands. Exactly like rubbing your shoes on carpet or a balloon on wool-- only on a vastly larger scale. NOT MAGIC.

Never again will the nonsense word "Magic" give explanatory power, to any one who is thinking.
 

Bob the Unbeliever

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Hello my friend, nice to see you again. .

I am not your friend. You would have to quit lying, just for starters....

I am sorry but your post has no truth in it sadly. May I ask what brings you to a Religious forum? You sure like to talk about God a lot for someone that does not believe in him. .

I talk about the evil that is "god" for the same reason doctors speak of disease, and police talk of crime...

I think deep down inside you know God is real and it worries you and it should if you find yourself as you do now fighting against him..

Wow. That is one of the most insultingly ugly things you've said to date! Seriously--- just stop.
 

3rdAngel

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No need. It is in this thread.
Can you debate properly?

If you did provide a post addressing post # 281 linked you would have posted the link. Thankyou for proving my point that your not being honest here and running away from a debate. It seem you do not know how to debate properly. Your the one running away when your claims and posts are challenged. :)
 
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