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Catholicism's Spirituality

Jesuslightoftheworld

The world has nothing to offer us!
The reason I brought this up is because ( if i understand ) most Christian denominations do not claim the God is omnipotent because that would overrule Satan's role as the ultimate evil force which operates Counter to Divine Will.

So, in light o this, my next questions are:

What is the Catholic concept of Satan? Does Satan exist? Is Satan operating outside of God's divine will?


I disagree about the statement about Christianity. We do believe God is Omniscient, Omnipotent, and Omnipresent. Satan is very real but God only allows him so much temptation over us. I believe God allows him to exist. He is the ultimate evil force and has been given the world.He is opposite of everything God is. But he is weak and Jesus already conquered him and he will always lose in the end.
 

pearl

Well-Known Member
They've moderated their views because of the Holocaust and don't give a definite answer either way these days.

I think the answer is definite, through the authority of Conciliar documents and statements of the succeeding popes and the CCC. It would be an incorrect understanding or interpretation to suggest that there are two paths to salvation. For the Church Jesus Christ remains the one mediator of salvation, even though he is not acknowledged.
 

Jesuslightoftheworld

The world has nothing to offer us!
No.
36. From the Christian confession that there can be only one path to salvation, however, it does not in any way follow that the Jews are excluded from God’s salvation because they do not believe in Jesus Christ as the Messiah of Israel and the Son of God. Such a claim would find no support in the soteriological understanding of Saint Paul, who in the Letter to the Romans not only gives expression to his conviction that there can be no breach in the history of salvation, but that salvation comes from the Jews (cf. also Jn 4:22). God entrusted Israel with a unique mission, and He does not bring his mysterious plan of salvation for all peoples (cf. 1 Tim 2:4) to fulfilment without drawing into it his "first-born son" (Ex 4:22). From this it is self-evident that Paul in the Letter to the Romans definitively negates the question he himself has posed, whether God has repudiated his own people. Just as decisively he asserts: "For the gifts and the call of God are irrevocable" (Rom 11:29). That the Jews are participants in God’s salvation is theologically unquestionable, but how that can be possible without confessing Christ explicitly, is and remains an unfathomable divine mystery. It is therefore no accident that Paul’s soteriological reflections in Romans 9-11 on the irrevocable redemption of Israel against the background of the Christ-mystery culminate in a magnificent doxology: "Oh, the depth of the riches and wisdom and knowledge of God! How inscrutable are his judgments and how unsearchable his ways" (Rom 11:33).

The Jews were God’s chosen people and Jesus is for everyone. However, it’s plainly stated in JOHN 14:6. Jesus said to him, “I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.“ That applies to everyone. Jew and Gentile.
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
If one reads the Bible as some sort of objective history and teachings, they get off on the wrong foot right off the bat. All scriptures are highly subjective in nature.
 

EverChanging

Well-Known Member
Well, I feel a little overwhelmed right now. I have so many questions.

I guess I'll start with asking about 3 significant concepts. Perhaps you or someone else can help me better understand these through the lens of Catholicism?

  1. In Catholicism is the Soul eternal?
  2. In Catholicism is God Omnipotent?
  3. In Catholicism are Jewish people who do not accept Christ going to Hell?

Although these days this is a minority position (albeit one growing in popularity), I am hopeful for universal salvation, and we do indeed in the Catholic Church in popular prayers and in liturgy pray for universal salvation, and we believe God does will all to be saved. We hope and pray for God's will to be done.

The first six centuries of the church, universalism was a more prominent position than it is today, though after Vatican II this theology has been rehabilitated somewhat.

David Bentley Hart, in his book, That All Shall Be Saved, makes a strong defense for universalism philosophically and theologically. He deals with history and objections based on the fifth ecumenical council as well.

Hart is an Eastern Orthodox theologian and philosopher. There are Eastern rite Catholic churches as well in communion with the pope with their own liturgies and theological emphases and language. Most are only familiar with the Roman rite, or at least the modern mass that has supplanted the traditional Roman rite.
 

MonkeyFire

Well-Known Member
The body dies, that's all. Thus, the soul is now free and is now recognized as what percieved to be a spirit. But, to get into heaven you must free your soul without dying, which is all the wiser, and now you are what we see as an angel. Mind body and spirit.
 
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