This'n donna eat blood...even if fried up as a delicious scab.
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No you said a definitive statement that is not entirely accurate. That is bearing false witness, is it not? Lying by omission. Unless you were just unaware that there are other ways of contracting STDs and STIs? Or were you oversimplifying?You tried.....I laughed.
It mostly comes from bacteria and viruses. Which exist independent of human beings.It has to come from somewhere.....sleeping with a bunch of people certainly increases your risk, especially if you don't know who (or how many) your partner has slept with....biologically, you have slept with all of them.....
Of course it increases your chances of contracting STDs by sleeping with multiple people without protection. (See, I said increase your chances, vague enough to exploit plausible deniability.) But you can get STDs from even bad water, so I mean, you could probably also boil all the water you drink beforehand just to be safe. Or drink bottled I guess.
You could say that about disease in general, honestly.There are so many other STD's to choose from....heck, its like a smorgasbord!
Cross infection was kind of what I was hinting at. But if you need the Bible to tell you not to hump a Koala (assuming it doesn't claw out your eyes first) then you have bigger things to worry about than getting "the clap" honestly.You know that even Koalas get chlamydia, don't you? And since its not unheard of to practice bestiality, (something that the Bible forbids) its little wonder that there can be cross-infection.
Although props to that one drunken idiot who most likely did it anyway, I guess. Ahh Straya.
Yes, it's commonly spread through sex and exchange of bodily fluid. Did I say otherwise?
But again, that's not the only way it spread.
Indeed, as are a lot of terminal illnesses.
But medicine will persevere. It doesn't sit down and wring its hands with fret. It will find a treatment if not a cure. We have already made great strides in treatment of HIV and AIDS in the last couple of decades. We will get through this Deej, as a species, as a people.
Beware of @Revoltingest Deej. That's all I'm sayin.
I don't think they ever went away, really.
Oh mate. I drove to work yesterday with my fog lights on, in the middle of the day! It was just smoke as far as the eye could see. I'm used to Bushfires, but damn, if it's this bad in the burbs, then I feel really bad for anyone living the outback this year.
By dismembering the false gods, as you so crudely put it, you cause societal unrest and moral inconsistency by default. Do you really need someone to spell it out to you what happens when you supplant thousands of years of traditions with something entirely different? Really? It seems rather elementary to me. Society needs time to adjust and figure things out. You can't just irradiate ancient identities and supplant it with something else without causing friction, at the very least. The Polytheistic Romans would have been confused at the more black and white monotheism that Christianity offered.
But that's just one factor. So viewing it on it's own is rather myopic to say the least.
Oh goody. From one murderous ravenous bloodthirsty empire rose an equally ravenous, bloodthirsty and murderous empire. One that had an even worse slavery angle (at least in Rome, a slave could rise above his station after being freed.) A veritable phoenix indeed. Mind you, at least when Rome conquered people, it generally left it's traditions in peace. The Brits just acted like holier than thou ******** when they went around conquering people. As much as I like Britain, it's almost like Rome for all it's faults was probably the lesser of two evils, all things considered. But again, I defer to @Augustus, since they seem to be the resident history buff.
Oh you.Don't hold your breath sweet-pea...
We will get you one day, Deej
You're looking forward to the absolute destruction of earth and the deaths of millions?Nope, but I am soooo looking forward to seeing the end of this rotten world though....I'm hanging out for the new one.....nothing to fear for those who are on the right side.
I mean whatever floats your boat, I guess.
Alas, I find it a little bit blase compared to some of the other end times predictions. Is it possible to squeeze in some kind of Kaju/Giant Monster/Gozilla type fights in there somewhere?I thought we did
Although I appreciate the somewhat ironic timing, given your Aussie background. WWI is largely where Australia got it's modern identity, separate from the "Motherland." That it's also the beginning of the end is a nice touch, thematic wise.
Does that mean you're not the best Scotsman? I feel like I don't even know you anymore
The best?Does that mean you're not the best Scotsman? I feel like I don't even know you anymore
I'd have tah work on improve'n meself just to rank among the worst of'm.
What does the rest of scripture state about the "new covenant" ...doesn't it say it your quote from Jeremiah that was "not according to the covenant [God] made with their fathers"?
The apostle Paul identifies "the Israel of God" as members of the Christian congregation which was made up of both Jewish and Gentile disciples of Jesus. (Galatians 6:16)
This was a whole new way of worship....no rituals, no temple, no priesthood, no distinctive clothing, no positions of rank or importance. Christianity was nothing like Judaism.
Natural Israel was no longer in God's purpose for the future. Their repeated failure to correct their course, forced God to abandon them after they orchestrated the murder of an innocent man, who just happened to be their Messiah. (Matthew 23:37-39) God "abandoned" them as incorrigible. John the Baptist also told them that being a son of Abraham was meaningless if they failed to repent and obey their God.
You need to read up some more I believe.....
Since God's Kingdom was the theme of Jesus' entire ministry, and something he taught us to pray for, can you tell me what God's Kingdom is?....and how does it "come" so that God's will can be "done on earth as it is in heaven"?
To quote....
"STDs are sexually transmitted diseases. This means they are most often -- but not exclusively -- spread by sexual intercourse. HIV, chlamydia, genital herpes, genital warts, gonorrhea, some forms of hepatitis, syphilis, and trichomoniasis are STDs.
You can get a STD from vaginal, anal, or oral sex.
You are at high risk if:
- You have more than one sex partner
- You have sex with someone who has had many partners
- You don't use a condom when having sex
- You share needles when injecting intravenous drugs
- You trade sex for money or drugs"
I'm thinking that they are called "sexually transmitted diseases" for a reason. Waddurekon?
Sure they exist independent of humans....but how do humans acquire them? They somehow manage to get spread by having multiple sexual partners....so where did they come from?
webmd says...
"The germs that cause STDs hide in semen, blood, vaginal secretions, and sometimes saliva. Most of the organisms are spread by vaginal, anal, or oral sex, but some, such as those that cause genital herpes and genital warts, may be spread through skin contact. You can get hepatitis B by sharing personal items, such as toothbrushes or razors, with someone who has it."
Oh, so that is where they come from....?
Some of these viruses and bacteria are STD's and others which are not called STD's can be spread by other means.
"Dr. Edward Brooks, an infectious disease specialist at Stanford Health Care, explains that there is no evidence that an individual can get an STD from casually swimming in a pool. Transmission of STDs through a hot tub or pool are only possible if two people are engaging in sexual activity while in the water."
Nice try....
You don't honestly believe that the medical profession is even remotely interested in cures do you?
They know their pharmacology all right....the pills that they are 'encouraged' (bribed) to prescribe that are made from synthetic chemicals, which are not designed to kill you outright, but just enough to keep you sick long enough to empty your bank account. There is no money in cures...why do you think people are still dying from cancer? Chemo is a multi-million dollar cash cow. I don't think people understand how corrupt this world is.
No no no....I am looking forward to the elimination of all wickedness, exploitation and ungodliness from this world so that wars, crime, violence and oppression can never happen again. I want what Adam and his wife had in the beginning.....no sickness, no aging and no death, in paradise conditions for free...forever....if that means the demise of all the people who don't give a hoot about God, who want to trash his earth, and break his laws, then I believe they are what the Americans call "collateral damage".
When you get a warning and you ignore it.....that's what happens.
I'm sad but its not my call. Nah...no need for any extra drama.....what is described in the Bible would outdo any Hollywood movie. No stunt doubles will be needed.....everyone is required to do their own.
I thought so too....it was the beginning of the end...it has a nice ring to it....don't you think?
It would be funny if it wasn't so serious....
Martin
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To quote....
"STDs are sexually transmitted diseases. This means they are most often -- but not exclusively -- spread by sexual intercourse. HIV, chlamydia, genital herpes, genital warts, gonorrhea, some forms of hepatitis, syphilis, and trichomoniasis are STDs.
You can get a STD from vaginal, anal, or oral sex.
You are at high risk if:
https://www.webmd.com/sex-relationships/understanding-stds-basics
- You have more than one sex partner
- You have sex with someone who has had many partners
- You don't use a condom when having sex
- You share needles when injecting intravenous drugs
- You trade sex for money or drugs"
I'm thinking that they are called "sexually transmitted diseases" for a reason. Waddurekon?
Sure they exist independent of humans....but how do humans acquire them? They somehow manage to get spread by having multiple sexual partners....so where did they come from?
webmd says...
"The germs that cause STDs hide in semen, blood, vaginal secretions, and sometimes saliva. Most of the organisms are spread by vaginal, anal, or oral sex, but some, such as those that cause genital herpes and genital warts, may be spread through skin contact. You can get hepatitis B by sharing personal items, such as toothbrushes or razors, with someone who has it."
Oh, so that is where they come from....?
Some of these viruses and bacteria are STD's and others which are not called STD's can be spread by other means.
....swimming in a contaminated pool or drinking bad water....?
"Dr. Edward Brooks, an infectious disease specialist at Stanford Health Care, explains that there is no evidence that an individual can get an STD from casually swimming in a pool. Transmission of STDs through a hot tub or pool are only possible if two people are engaging in sexual activity while in the water."
Nice try....
You don't honestly believe that the medical profession is even remotely interested in cures do you?
They know their pharmacology all right....the pills that they are 'encouraged' (bribed) to prescribe that are made from synthetic chemicals, which are not designed to kill you outright, but just enough to keep you sick long enough to empty your bank account. There is no money in cures...why do you think people are still dying from cancer? Chemo is a multi-million dollar cash cow. I don't think people understand how corrupt this world is.
No no no....I am looking forward to the elimination of all wickedness, exploitation and ungodliness from this world so that wars, crime, violence and oppression can never happen again. I want what Adam and his wife had in the beginning.....no sickness, no aging and no death, in paradise conditions for free...forever....if that means the demise of all the people who don't give a hoot about God, who want to trash his earth, and break his laws, then I believe they are what the Americans call "collateral damage".
When you get a warning and you ignore it.....that's what happens.
Nah...no need for any extra drama.....what is described in the Bible would outdo any Hollywood movie. No stunt doubles will be needed.....everyone is required to do their own.
I thought so too....it was the beginning of the end...it has a nice ring to it....don't you think?
It would be funny if it wasn't so serious....
All this stuff about STDs isn't very Christmassy, and it's putting me off my mince pies.
All this stuff about STDs isn't very Christmassy, and it's putting me off my mince pies.
Sorry, it was mentioned in passing and 'SomeRandom' guy just ran with it.....
Yes, it was not done the same way, but the Law is the same, now it is just written in the “hearts”, not only in books.
Do you understand why the Law was given to Israel? It was not just to keep them on the right path, but to demonstrate to them that a perfect law could never be kept by an imperfect people. The sacrifices prescribed in the law to atone for their sins, was a constant reminded of their need for a savior....a redeemer. The law was actually a curse...a millstone around their necks. They needed someone who would remove the curse of the law, by paying the debt that caused sin and death, and free them. That was Jesus' mission.
We have a permanent basis now for the forgiveness of our sins, which is why we no longer sacrifice animals.
Galatians 3:10-14....
"All those who depend on works of law are under a curse, for it is written: “Cursed is everyone who does not remain in all the things written in the scroll of the Law by doing them.” 11 Moreover, it is evident that by law no one is declared righteous with God, because “the righteous one will live by reason of faith.” 12 Now the Law is not based on faith. Rather, “anyone who does these things will live by means of them.” 13 Christ purchased us, releasing us from the curse of the Law by becoming a curse instead of us, because it is written: “Accursed is every man hung upon a stake.” 14 This was so that the blessing of Abraham would come to the nations by means of Christ Jesus, so that we might receive the promised spirit through our faith."
Romans 10:4...
"For Christ is the end of the Law, so that everyone exercising faith may have righteousness."
Romans 6:14...
"For sin must not be master over you, seeing that you are not under law but under undeserved kindness. (Grace)"
Jesus promoted the "Law of Love"....which is love of God and neighbor before all things. He reiterated all the important parts of the law pertaining to marriage and divorce, immorality, idolatry, and he emphasized the importance of being a good humanitarian, not just a good Christian. (The Good Samaritan)
The Law of Love is what is written on hearts.
See? Plausible deniability. By adding in the other ways people can get STDs/STIs, (by the way, one can also get HIV from one's mum in the womb and Syphilis from kissing for example) you add in a built in deflection. By hyperfocusing on sex as a way to spread STDs/STIs you open yourself up to nitpicking jerks like me being all semantic and dramatic. I learnt it from all my cousins who are nitpicky teachers. I blame their nefarious influence.To quote....
"STDs are sexually transmitted diseases. This means they are most often -- but not exclusively -- spread by sexual intercourse. HIV, chlamydia, genital herpes, genital warts, gonorrhea, some forms of hepatitis, syphilis, and trichomoniasis are STDs.
You can get a STD from vaginal, anal, or oral sex.
You are at high risk if:
https://www.webmd.com/sex-relationships/understanding-stds-basics
- You have more than one sex partner
- You have sex with someone who has had many partners
- You don't use a condom when having sex
- You share needles when injecting intravenous drugs
- You trade sex for money or drugs"
I'm thinking that they are called "sexually transmitted diseases" for a reason. Waddurekon?
Yes, other means. Sexual activity involves sharing bodily fluid, but that's not actually the only way to share bodily fluid. Otherwise we wouldn't have, what's routinely referred to as the "Kissing Disease."Sure they exist independent of humans....but how do humans acquire them? They somehow manage to get spread by having multiple sexual partners....so where did they come from?
webmd says...
"The germs that cause STDs hide in semen, blood, vaginal secretions, and sometimes saliva. Most of the organisms are spread by vaginal, anal, or oral sex, but some, such as those that cause genital herpes and genital warts, may be spread through skin contact. You can get hepatitis B by sharing personal items, such as toothbrushes or razors, with someone who has it."
Oh, so that is where they come from....?
Some of these viruses and bacteria are STD's and others which are not called STD's can be spread by other means.
Glandular fever - including symptoms, treatment and prevention :: SA Health\
I never said anything about getting it from contaminated swimming pools. Nice try.....swimming in a contaminated pool or drinking bad water....?
"Dr. Edward Brooks, an infectious disease specialist at Stanford Health Care, explains that there is no evidence that an individual can get an STD from casually swimming in a pool. Transmission of STDs through a hot tub or pool are only possible if two people are engaging in sexual activity while in the water."
Nice try....
https://www.mylabbox.com/can-std-survive-in-water/
Mate, we live in Australia. My father was chronically ill for the last part of his life and we never paid a single solidarity cent to any hospital. Had we lived in America, we'd be bankrupt several times over.
Granted Big Pharma is a huge barrier for legitimate medical treatments. But America isn't the only place to develop cures and treatment. Countries where universal healthcare is standard practice also develop medicine and cures. Mind you, I don't hold out much hope for our idiots in government making the best decisions as far as science is concerned. I mean ScoMo is being lambasted for ignoring all the bushfires here, lately. But we're hardly the only idiot nation in the world, thankfully.
My word, you're pessimistic, aren't you?
Well, sure. Hammering tent pegs in bodies and the flood and the plagues and all that jazz. I mean it's like one of those slasher films you guys always whine about, really. (and I'm saying, you guys in reference to christian protesters to gore in general. Not directing that at you, specifically. Just to be clear.)Nah...no need for any extra drama.....what is described in the Bible would outdo any Hollywood movie. No stunt doubles will be needed.....everyone is required to do their own.
Although I think they maybe took it a bit too far with the movie, the Passion of the Christ. Even the "Grindhouse" was probably looking at that one a bit side eyed.
Oh, I knew you appreciated the art of storytelling, Deej. Your posts are too animated to really suggest a lack of any artistic appreciation. See, I think you and I could get along. Here I might be aloof and combative. But in reality I'm aloof and nerdy. And really just want to geek out with someone, that's all.I thought so too....it was the beginning of the end...it has a nice ring to it....don't you think?
It would be funny if it wasn't so serious....
And love fulfills the Law that was given in OT, because:
Owe no one anything, except to love one another; for he who loves his neighbor has fulfilled the law. For the commandments, "You shall not commit adultery," "You shall not murder," "You shall not steal," "You shall not give false testimony," "You shall not covet," [TR adds "You shall not give false testimony,"] and whatever other commandments there are, are all summed up in this saying, namely, "You shall love your neighbor as yourself." Love doesn't harm a neighbor. Love therefore is the fulfillment of the law.
Romans 13:8-10
The difference is, earlier people obeyed the law because they had to, even when they didn’t want. When person is born anew, he obeys the law, because he understands it is good and right and person wants to do freely what is right and good. And that way person is not anymore under the law, he is not obeying it like a slave, but like a free person.
And when person is faithful to God and lives righteously, there is no need for sacrifices anymore. The purpose of the law was never that people sacrifice. Sacrifices were just a way for person to show regret, when he has done wrongly. But obviously God doesn’t want that we continuously do wrong so that we can sacrifice things.