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Whistleblower to IRS: "Mormon Church has amassed $100 billion in tax-empt fund

PruePhillip

Well-Known Member
Believing in equality between the sexes isn't radical.

Depends what you mean by "equality."
If it's equality of pay then sure.
Equality of vote, respect, dignity... sure.

But...
Equality to send women to the front in a war?
Equality of interests, temperament, worldviews etc.. Big fat no.
for instance, guys like to talk about "things" (cars, guns, sports...)
and girls like to talk about people. You going to change that?

Equality is dear to the heart of your cultural Marxist. I don't see
children as having "equality" with adults, for instance. Or two people
with differing aptitudes and abilities being economically equal.
 

PruePhillip

Well-Known Member
The accumulation of wealth is always immoral.

The dismissal of wealth (be it by an individual or a nation) can be catastrophic.
first, no accumulated wealth to invest
no capital intensive business
... well, maybe no business at all.

the more billionaires in a nation, the wealthier that nation is.
I am a great fan of Elon Musk. He is single handedly changing the world.
If he become the first Trillionaire I will be cheering.
 

PruePhillip

Well-Known Member
What is wealth? I am not rich, but compared to someone from a few hundred years ago, I live like royalty.

Excellent point.
Kings before last century never had the medicines, wealth, air conditioning, knowledge,
entertainment etc that your average human has today. We are all royalty - and scarcely
appreciate it.
 

danieldemol

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
Our Holy Book is Quran authored by G-d.

Regards
So do you admit that none of the writings of Mirza Ghulam Ahmad are authored by God?

Perfect, then since they are human works there is no need to imitate his interpretation the way all Ahmadis do.

ETA: Don’t you think the Ahmadiyya website is being misleading calling them “divine revelations”?
 
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paarsurrey

Veteran Member
Sounds like Radical Revisionist stuff.
It's the testimonial of about six contemporary people that Jesus died on the cross.
The Old Testament prophecies of him spoke of him not only dying for His people
but dying upon a cross.
Does Bible records them, please?
If yes, then kindly quote them here, please?

Records
 

PruePhillip

Well-Known Member
Does Bible records them, please?
If yes, then kindly quote them here, please?

Records

If you are referring to the Old Testament account of the crucifixion
then read Psalm 22 and 69, and Isaiah 53.
Says in Zechariah that the Jewish Messiah will come, but the Jews
will mourn because it is the same person who's hands and feet
they "pierced." Zech 12:10
 

paarsurrey

Veteran Member
So you can't actually prove it to those you are saying it to.
Fair enough, not everyone can prove their beliefs.

Please have a look on my latest post #235 in the thread. I have started giving the clues in the issue. The LDS people are also here in the Forum and in the thread. They can also participate in the friendly discussion/debate, no harm at all. Right, please?

Regards
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"Whistleblower to IRS: "Mormon Church has amassed $100 billion in tax-empt fund' "
Suffices it to say that if there is any money collected in the name of Jesus or Jesus' Second Coming with any Christian denomination, as I am given to understand, it may be donated to the charity "Humanity First Canada". No harm in it.Just a suggestion. Right, please?
 
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paarsurrey

Veteran Member
If you are referring to the Old Testament account of the crucifixion
then read Psalm 22 and 69, and Isaiah 53.
Says in Zechariah that the Jewish Messiah will come, but the Jews
will mourn because it is the same person who's hands and feet
they "pierced." Zech 12:10
I was referring to the Jewish Torah. I will like that some friend from the Judaism people should participate in this friendly discussion, welcome here, please? Right, please?

Regards
 

paarsurrey

Veteran Member
So do you admit that none of the writings of Mirza Ghulam Ahmad are authored by God?

Perfect, then since they are human works there is no need to imitate his interpretation the way all Ahmadis do.

ETA: Don’t you think the Ahmadiyya website is being misleading calling them “divine revelations”?
But not saying they are part of Quran - our Holy Book - the pristine and secure Direct Word of G-d and authored by G-d. Right, please?
Is there anything in Iqan written by Bahaullah about Jesus' death on Cross or his not having died , please?
If yes, then please quote from Iqan. Right, please?
Thanks friend.

Regards
 
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robocop (actually)

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
They are human. Even your Bible will not support your claim they have no skeletons. Them being an organization of humans does not support your claim.
Individual Latter-day Saints and ancient prophets yes, and minor sins yes, but modern prophets and major sins no.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber
Individual Latter-day Saints and ancient prophets yes, and minor sins yes, but modern prophets and major sins no.
Modern ones have no super powers or special abilities the ancient ones lacked that make them immune from ever doing such things. No organization is entirely free of such things.
 

robocop (actually)

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
Modern ones have no super powers or special abilities the ancient ones lacked that make them immune from ever doing such things. No organization is entirely free of such things.
The gift of the Holy Ghost warns people before they make grave errors. It has worked for me since I got rebaptized.

I have schizophrenia and it still gets through.

(I don't think the gift of the holy ghost was available to ancient prophets or apostles before Jesus' death).
 

MJ Bailey

Member
Maybe LDS try to take advantage of their members; or shall we say as a better definition, prior members individualistic lives?
 

Dan From Smithville

What we've got here is failure to communicate.
Staff member
Premium Member
Excellent point.
Kings before last century never had the medicines, wealth, air conditioning, knowledge,
entertainment etc that your average human has today. We are all royalty - and scarcely
appreciate it.
I agree. Medicine, information, transportation, entertainment, arts and sciences usually readily available. We could treat each other better, but even there we have generally gotten a little better. Still plenty of work left to do.
 
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