On December 18th at 8:35 pm Donald J. Trump was impeached.

It Aint Necessarily So · Dec 19, 2019

KAT-KAT said:
Democrats are dividing a nation

That ship has sailed. Partisan rancor characterized the Republican party of the 1990s and has since. There is no United States any more, just two populations of enemies living side by side.

KAT-KAT said:
knowing well that nothing will come from it

I'm satisfied with the results. Trump's presidency is forever stained, and he's gone from orange to red.

KAT-KAT said:
and not trusting the Democratic process

That was the democratic process. The Constitution that empowered the House was ratified democratically. The House's vote was democratic.

What I'm much less certain was a democratic process was the 2016 presidential election.

Salvador said:
If Donald J. Trump were to have me tied down at gunpoint, and then if he were to force me watching him have his way with my family, then at that point; I'd want him deposed from power.

So committing lesser crimes would be acceptable to you? I think using the power of the presidency for personal gain is good enough, but conservatives apparently don't.

Salvador said:
Any lesser offenses to me, he remains as the chosen one to be leader of the right-wing populist American Nationalist ideology I prefer to follow.

You were lamenting partisanship before when discussing the Democrats, but here you concede that Trump does not represent the left at all. Isn't that partisanship? Why should the Democrats or liberal America consider Trump their president, or not do everything in their power to obstruct him? He's your president, not theirs.

Jainarayan · Dec 19, 2019

Terry Sampson said:
The greater the ego, the greater the wound. Trump's got the biggest ego in the world; he's going to grieve over this all the way to his grave.

And back into the White House.

And... for the record I’m neither a Trump supporter nor detractor. The immaturity of his supporters and detractors being displayed (“out there”) is not befitting this country.

Terry Sampson · Dec 19, 2019

Jainarayan said:
And back into the White House.

But not forever.

Jainarayan said:
for the record I’m neither a Trump supporter nor detractor.

Duly noted. For the record, I am his detractor, have been since he announced his candidacy, and will be until his fingers are removed from American politics.

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Jainarayan · Dec 19, 2019

Terry Sampson said:
But not forever.

At most four years. Twenty second Amendment.

Terry Sampson · Dec 19, 2019

Jainarayan said:
At most four years.

Something for me to look forward to.

Wandering Monk · Dec 19, 2019

KAT-KAT said:
I'm torn on what to think.

But, every Republican opposed.

And three Democrats as well.

Wandering Monk · Dec 19, 2019

sun rise said:
The Trump party has abandoned rationality and logic and yelling and screaming and threatening. The entire party is melting down adopting the methods and emotional fragility of their Jesus-like leader (to them).

Sort like Democrats and Obama then, or Democrats and Clinton.

“I would be happy to give him a ****job just to thank him for keeping abortion legal. I think American women should be lining up with their Presidential kneepads on to show their gratitude for keeping the theocracy off our backs.” - Journalist Nina Burleigh

Wandering Monk · Dec 19, 2019

Terry Sampson said:
But not forever.

Duly noted. For the record, I am his detractor, have been since he announced his candidacy, and will be until his fingers are removed from American politics.

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(Contrary to the wording presented in the graphic above, Mencken’s original statement made no mention of fools or narcissism.)

Did H. L. Mencken Say the 'White House Will Be Adorned by a Downright Moron'?

Terry Sampson · Dec 19, 2019

Wandering Monk said:
(Contrary to the wording presented in the graphic above, Mencken’s original statement made no mention of fools or narcissism.)

Thanks for the correction. "Downright moron" works for me.

Subduction Zone · Dec 19, 2019

Salvador said:
Your argumentative political bickering means nothing, the Senatorial debate of Trump's guilt or innocence regarding any wrongdoing worthy of being deposed is what matters in determining if our P.O.T.U.S. is worthy of remaining in charge of our nation's Presidential duties.

No, I am talking about arguing on whether or not what Trump did merits impeachment. You on the other hand set what could only be called a psychotic standard of what it would take to merit impeachment. If you cannot take back the second claim that I responded to you lose by admittedly not being able to approach this topic rationally and reasonably.

Subduction Zone · Dec 19, 2019

Landon Caeli said:
...Justice? What's justice got to do with this?

This is a witch hunt, where Democrats exploit the letters of law to their advantage... There is nothing immoral about Trump investigating a Biden.

We don't worship the letters of law. We use them when we have an *actual* problem, that needs solving... We dont watch people constantly, and then search for laws to bite them with. The latter is actually what's immoral.

Another "creationist" . Do you think that you can debate this rationally? I have yet to see a Trump supporter that can.

Evangelicalhumanist · Dec 19, 2019

Salvador said:
If Donald J. Trump were to have me tied down at gunpoint, and then if he were to force me watching him have his way with my family, then at that point; I'd want him deposed from power. Any lesser offenses to me, he remains as the chosen one to be leader of the right-wing populist American Nationalist ideology I prefer to follow.

Wow! (And not in a nice way...)

Woberts · Dec 19, 2019

Salvador said:
If Donald J. Trump were to have me tied down at gunpoint, and then if he were to force me watching him have his way with my family, then at that point; I'd want him deposed from power. Any lesser offenses to me, he remains as the chosen one to be leader of the right-wing populist American Nationalist ideology I prefer to follow.

You forgot to add racist.

Evangelicalhumanist · Dec 19, 2019

Landon Caeli said:
...Justice? What's justice got to do with this?

This is a witch hunt, where Democrats exploit the letters of law to their advantage... There is nothing immoral about Trump investigating a Biden.

But Trump wasn't investigating a Biden at all. Trump was asking another, sovereign government to dig up dirt that he could use for his own benefit at home.

Let me ask you a question: can you think of one, single other example of Trump "going after corruption?" Do you not wonder why the only time he's ever done this is when it involved someone in a presidential race who could potentially beat him?

Evangelicalhumanist · Dec 19, 2019

Wandering Monk said:
And three Democrats as well.

All three out of fear for their own reelections, as they are in districts that voted for Trump in 2016. That's pretty craven, but people (even Democrats) are just people in the end.

sun rise · Dec 19, 2019

Terry Sampson said:
Better strap on your helmet, buckle your seat-belt, and don't stand too close to a Democrat, DJT is wounded, mad, and gonna come lookin' for pay-back. Bumpy-ride days ahead.

I would not be surprised if he did not try to sent the Army to arrest all Democrats especially Nancy Pelosi. It's the next logical step in him becoming dictator for life. Well, he'd probably declare a national emergency first and then send out the Army.

Cooky · Dec 19, 2019

Subduction Zone said:
Another "creationist" . Do you think that you can debate this rationally? I have yet to see a Trump supporter that can.

Of course I can.

Cooky · Dec 19, 2019

Evangelicalhumanist said:
But Trump wasn't investigating a Biden at all. Trump was asking another, sovereign government to dig up dirt that he could use for his own benefit at home.

Let me ask you a question: can you think of one, single other example of Trump "going after corruption?" Do you not wonder why the only time he's ever done this is when it involved someone in a presidential race who could potentially beat him?

It was a good idea. Nothing immoral about it, so why should I care?

Evangelicalhumanist · Dec 19, 2019

Landon Caeli said:
It was a good idea. Nothing immoral about it, so why should I care?

Then I'm sorry for you. In my opinion, I -- the atheist -- have a stronger sense of moral and "right" behaviour than you -- the Catholic -- has. You might re-read John 21:15-18. Actually some scripture that I like.

Erebus · Dec 19, 2019

Salvador said:
If Donald J. Trump were to have me tied down at gunpoint, and then if he were to force me watching him have his way with my family, then at that point; I'd want him deposed from power. Any lesser offenses to me, he remains as the chosen one to be leader of the right-wing populist American Nationalist ideology I prefer to follow.

That's ... a weirdly candid admission.

You're hardly alone in that line of thinking, though most people wouldn't phrase it quite that way.

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