When there are good odds that I am correct. Unless you are claiming you don't understand the Bible.
Not belonging to a group does not exclude you from 'my version and understanding is the right one' club.
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I have a question about the bible.
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Not belonging to a group does not exclude you from 'my version and understanding is the right one' club.
Faithofchristian
Well-Known Member
I don't belong to any club either...
If I didn't understand the Bible..then I would go by the name I have on here nor would I be on RF..
Let's see just how much you know about the Bible..
Did you know in the Bible..there 3 earth ages.
The first earth age is where the dinosaurs were at..
We are now in the 2nd earth age
The 3rd earth will be established at the coming of Christ Jesus.
When Jesus Christ establish his Kingdom here on earth.
Did you also know that the flood of Noah's..
Was not the first flood of water on earth.
There was another flood way before Adam and Eve were created...
The first flood happen back in the first earth age. This flood is what destroyed the dinosaurs and all life 64 -65 million years ago.
You probably never heard of this before..
Until now..but it's all there within the pages of the bible.
Let's see if you can find where at in the Bible.
That's written all these things.
Thanks. I believe I have the answer I was looking for.
Faithofchristian
Well-Known Member
Yeah. I guess I got my answer from you..
You haven't a clue or idea about the Three earth ages....Nor about the first flood of water..that happen way before this second earth age came to be
It's all recorded in the Bible/scriptures.
Let's see if can find where it's all recorded at..
IndigoChild5559
Loving God and my neighbor as myself.
You are quoting a translation of a translation, the Greek Septuagint, and it's a terrible translation. Basically its NOT a virgin and it's NOT future tense in the original Hebrew, which you would have known if you read my previous post.
So that people world-wide can read it to be saved. When the NT Bible was written, it's in the most common language back then, the Greek. Today this world speaks English.
IndigoChild5559
Loving God and my neighbor as myself.
What makes you think any translation is good enough?
To me Isaiah 7:14 is in connection to Isaiah 9:6
Thus, the Christian Greek Scriptures connect to the future time of Luke 1:34-35; Matthew 1:23; John 1:14; 1 Timothy 3:16.
I find there are three (3) ages as found at 2 Peter 3:5; 2 Peter 3:7; 2 Peter 3:13
The Earth of OLD of Noah's day
The Earth of NOW from Noah's day to our day
The Earth of NEW starting with Jesus' 1,000-year governmental reign over Earth when righteousness will dwell.
IndigoChild5559
Loving God and my neighbor as myself.
And yet neither Isaiah 7:14 nor Isaiah 9:6 are messianic when you study them. Of course, if you have been Christian and have read them with a messianic gloss for years, it's next to impossible to see them any other way.
Thank you for your reply but I wonder if you think of a Messiah at all - Daniel 9:25-26.
Or, think where these last days of badness on Earth is heading _______
IndigoChild5559
Loving God and my neighbor as myself.
Rest assured I do believe in the coming Messiah. It is not something I think about a great deal. The Messiah is the King which will rule during the Messianic era, which will come in the end of days. My job is to worry about living in obedience to God right here right now. That's what I pay attention to.
Well, we seem to be on the same page, so to speak, as regarding Messiah as King will govern in the Messianic era.
To me that Messianic era is a millennium-long day time frame of Messiah as King governing over Earth when we will see fulfillment of Isaiah 35th chapter.
To me this will occur at the 'end of days' of these 'last days of badness on Earth' which exist right now.
Worry, or more like concern about obedience right now is because we should be watchful, keep on the watch.
Be watchful, spiritually alert, because of noting the conditions to be met as found at Zephaniah 2:3
Jesuslightoftheworld
The world has nothing to offer us!
This is why you need a study Frank.....
When you understand where we are in the stream of time, you can see that we are living in the last days of this present system of things, and have been since 1914, when this time period began. (Matthew 24:3-14) The Bible doesn't tell us when they end, but judging by the state of the world, we are getting very close to the final phase.
The world is in dire need of "Peace and Security" and an announcement for such, we believe is imminent. It will be a lie.
https://www.jw.org/en/library/magazines/awake-no1-2019-mar-apr/
Revelation 12:7-12 explains why we are experiencing all these troubles that were to go from bad to worse as these days progressed.
"And war broke out in heaven: Miʹcha·el and his angels battled with the dragon, and the dragon and its angels battled 8 but they did not prevail, nor was a place found for them any longer in heaven. 9 So down the great dragon was hurled, the original serpent, the one called Devil and Satan, who is misleading the entire inhabited earth; he was hurled down to the earth, and his angels were hurled down with him. 10 I heard a loud voice in heaven say:
“Now have come to pass the salvation and the power and the Kingdom of our God and the authority of his Christ, because the accuser of our brothers has been hurled down, who accuses them day and night before our God! 11 And they conquered him because of the blood of the Lamb and because of the word of their witnessing, and they did not love their souls even in the face of death. 12 On this account be glad, you heavens and you who reside in them! Woe for the earth and for the sea, because the Devil has come down to you, having great anger, knowing that he has a short period of time.”
During this period the devil has intensified his anger towards God's people. Most of the thousands of denominations in Christendom have emerged during this period, creating much confusion.
When the Protestant Reformation took place, the Bible was given back to the common man.....the Catholic Church had taken it out of their hands and kept their flocks in ignorance because no one had the means to check for themselves if what 'the church' taught was the truth. No other 'Christian' religion deviated so far from the teachings of Jesus Christ....the Protestants realized this and removed many of their spurious doctrines but did not purge enough. Their core doctrines remained and Christianity was still fatally flawed. But translations of the Bible into various languages were made available to the people who wanted to read God's word for themselves.
By the latter part of the 1800's, a group of men from various denominations in Christendom met together to undertake the mammoth task of prayerfully sifting through the scriptures to discern if the doctrines held in Christendom were actually Bible based. They were led by Charles Taze Russell.
The group had observed that the practice of the Christian faith had deviated greatly from the simple practices of the first Christians, so they decided to ditch everything the church had taught, and go back to the beginning and start from scratch.
After much study, they discerned that most of Christendom's doctrines were adopted from pagan concepts; things not taught by Jesus Christ at all. Like Judaism, Christendom had fallen into the same trap of relying on man-made traditions, rather than on the word of God. Their translations had also fallen victim to their erroneous doctrines so that bias was seen in the way they translated various passages....not to mention how language changes over time. Archaic English is not reliable when getting to the correct understanding of a matter.
Jehovah's Witnesses originally favored using the ASV (the default version used here on RF) because it restored the divine name back into the Hebrew text where it had been substituted almost 7,000 times.
But because it was a revision of the KJV, it still retained some biased translating of some passages. It was determined that we needed a Bible translation that eliminated bias and restored God's name to his own word.
It was a slow and painstaking process with much research attached to the renderings.....it took 12 years, 3 months, and 11 days of hard work to complete the task. In the early 1970's, the New World Translation became available and has since been translated into 160 languages....available online.
https://www.jw.org/en/library/bible/
In the first century, God provided the means for visitors to Jerusalem to hear the Christian message in their own language. Christ's disciples were granted the miraculous ability to speak in foreign languages....today, technology has provided that means. There are few in the world who cannot access the internet, or receive a visit from us.
Everyone can now access God's word in their mother tongue...the language of the heart. JW's preach in all nations...even where our work is banned. God makes it possible.
I hope that has answered your question....
Ok, but wait. Jehovah’s Witnesses are Christians , right? Revelations 22:18-19:
I warn everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: if anyone adds to them, God will add to him the plagues described in this book, and if anyone takes away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God will take away his share in the tree of life and in the holy city, which are described in this book. Please explain.
Jesuslightoftheworld
The world has nothing to offer us!
I m
eant Jehovah’s Witnesses are NOT Christians...?