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Do we really know who we worship ?

Left Coast

This Is Water
Staff member
Premium Member
Hi,

Buddhism: the dharmakaya, the sambhogakaya, he nirmanakaya.

The Buddha is defined by three bodies of enlightenment, the so-called trikaya of classical Mahayana theory. These include the dharmakaya, the body of ultimate reality; the sambhogakaya, the body of joy; and the nirmanakaya, the Buddha’s conditioned, human body of flesh and blood.
Interestingly, the trinity of Chinese Buddhism is described in almost the same way as the trinity of Christendom:
“The Three are all included in one substantial essence. The three are the same as one; not one, and yet not different; without parts or composition. When regarded as one, the three persons are spoken of as the Perfect One (Tathagata). (New Catholic Encyclopedia)
There is no real difference [between the three persons of the trinity in Buddhism]; they are manifestations, different aspects of the same unchanging substance.”
The formulation of the trinity of Chinese Buddhism had no connection with the Bible or Christendom.

Hinduism: Brama, Vishnu, Siva.

The Hindu trinity is composed of Brahma the Creator, Vishnu the Preserver, and Siva the Destroyer. Together, the three composed the one god Brahm. Brahma is the supreme god of the Hindus, but actually he is shown little consideration, there are possibly only two temples devoted to him. Vishnu, the second person of the Hindu trinity, receives the worship of millions. Siva, the third person of the trinity, is figured with a rope for strangling evildoers, with a necklace of human skulls, with earrings of serpents and with the sacred river Ganges on his head. Numerous temples are erected for his honor and worship.

Religious triads began in Babylon: the moon (for the god Sin), the sun (for Shamash), and a star (for Ishtar). (this constitute one of many triads).

Cheers

The connection between the Christian Trinity and these other "triads," seems tenuous at best, both historically and conceptually.

Christianity certainly incorporates concepts from paganism though, so maybe it's possible? The whole fundamental notion of the need for animal and human sacrifice to avert the judgment of a god is pagan. Jesus as described in the Gospels shares many similarities with mythological pagan heroes.
 

MJ Bailey

Member
“THE Father Incomprehensible, the Son Incomprehensible, and the Holy Ghost Incomprehensible. The Father Eternal, the Son Eternal, and the Holy Ghost Eternal and yet they are not Three Eternals but One Eternal”. (simplified Athanasian Creed).
The Trinity is a mystery; no doubt about it. Unless we had been told of its existence, we would never have suspected such a thing. No matter how much we search the Bible we would never find references to it.
Moreover, now that we know about the Trinity, we cannot understand it.
A favourite explanation from theologian is:
It's by divine revelation! They say that it would be impossible to have come up with the idea of the Trinity apart from divine revelation.
If that were so, why do even non-Christian religions teach a trinity concept?
Why are the trinities of Hinduism, Buddhism and Christendom identical?The fact is that the trinity of Chinese Buddhism or Hinduism is defined in a way that is practically identical to the trinity of professed Christians (just with different Gods).
What about the evidence that ancient Babylon was a city with a proliferation of Gods many which were Triads, a fact that contributed to condemnation by God.
Does the fact, then, that non-Christian and pagan religions can frame their Trinitarian belief in terms similar to the language of Christendom’s, nullifies the claim that only the God of the Bible could have revealed this doctrine?
If that is true, where did theologian get the mysterious theory of the Trinity from, if not from the Bible or from Divine revelation?
As I see it both believing in both Science and Religion, 3 is the third prime number in existence giving itself it's own relevance. I am quite curious why the Bible is the only questioned "book". As mentioned before there are more than one religion which relates to trinities as does science. Maybe more thought needs to be induced into the initial question.
 

syo

Well-Known Member
If that is true, where did theologian get the mysterious theory of the Trinity from, if not from the Bible or from Divine revelation?
The Holy Trinity comes from the Bible. It's an understanding. Also, Jesus said we baptize in the name of the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit.
 
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