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"The Man Who Slapped a Female Reporter’s Butt on TV is a Christian Youth Leader"

Skwim

Veteran Member
What was obvious to myself is the woman was standing in the way of the runners and their path. I believe the other runners before hand had really tried to give the hint and eventually someone nailed it on the head. A slap on the bottom is better than being pushed over by an exhausted runner. She should have stood outside the path of runners. The woman was causing an obstruction to the runners I wonder if a woman had slapped her butt, would she still be complaining? Some people take things too far.
Not obvious at all.

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SigurdReginson

Grēne Mann
Premium Member
What was obvious to myself is the woman was standing in the way of the runners and their path. I believe the other runners before hand had really tried to give the hint and eventually someone nailed it on the head. A slap on the bottom is better than being pushed over by an exhausted runner. She should have stood outside the path of runners. The woman was causing an obstruction to the runners I wonder if a woman had slapped her butt, would she still be complaining? Some people take things too far.

So you're saying it's her fault she was sexually harassed? I don't care if she was laying in the middle of the road. The road is large. People can go around.
 

Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
So she stood still on one spot.? Do you really believe that you can say she never crossed the line? So why post it. Look at the film again all the way through.
The man is at fault.

My point is that I expect females to be condemned likewise
 

PruePhillip

Well-Known Member
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It's almost as if such deviants are part and parcel of religion. The Christian religion anyway.
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You will be pleased to know that religion in America is dying. And springing from its
ashes is a wonderful new society of mutual respect, stable homes, loving commitment,
more children, old folk becoming central to family life, fewer drugs, less violence, no
porn etc.. It's going to wonderful when John Lennon's Imagine song truly becomes real.

ps this year another 1.8 million men signed on to child porn.
 

exchemist

Veteran Member
The result is identical. I would feel bothered and disgusted if a lesbian touched me or even slapped me.
And as for sex drives, there are many nymphos out there ...so let's stop with this lie that males are hornier than females...please.



And yes...since females can become Prime Minister...the asimmetry has gone away
Who is the female Harvey Weinstein, then? Or the female Ray Kelvin: Ray Kelvin: Ted Baker CEO quits after allegations of 'forced hugging' - CNN

Please note I did not say, or imply, that women are less horny than men.
 

Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
Who is the female Harvey Weinstein, then? Or the female Ray Kelvin: Ray Kelvin: Ted Baker CEO quits after allegations of 'forced hugging' - CNN

Please note I did not say, or imply, that women are less horny than men.

But the thread title underlines that mainstream American feminism focuses on targeting the "heterosexual, white, Christian male" as negative model.
As if all the members of that group were like that only because of a rotten apple...and btw, I do condemn what he did.

What I mean to say that this narrative does not exist in my country because, being a Mediterranean country, man is not that vilified for being exaggeratedly masculine sometimes or to "cross the line" maybe because we Italian women are so self-confident that being objectified by men does not diminish our ego...it nurtures it.
 
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exchemist

Veteran Member
But the thread title focus on underlining that mainstream American feminism focuses on targeting the "heterosexual, white, Christian male" as negative model.
As if all the members of that group were like that only because of a rotten apple...and btw, I do condemn what he did.

What I mean to say that this narrative does not exist in my country because, being a Mediterranean country, man is not that vilified for being exaggeratedly masculine sometimes or to "cross the line" maybe because we Italian women are so self-confident that being objectified by men does not diminish our ego...it nurtures it.

I'm afraid I don't quite believe that. My experience of Italian men, some years ago admittedly, was that quite a lot of them are - or were - very sexually aggressive and entitled towards women. It may be better now, I admit.
 

Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
I'm afraid I don't quite believe that. My experience of Italian men, some years ago admittedly, was that quite a lot of them are - or were - very sexually aggressive and entitled towards women. It may be better now, I admit.
But apparently we are often criticized by feminists from the Anglo-Saxon world who define our TV obscene since female newscasters , hosts don't mind wearing very revealing clothes...
Which makes them imply it is men who chose their outfits. No...they choose their own clothes.
 
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exchemist

Veteran Member
But apparently we are often criticized by feminists from the Anglo-Saxon world who define our TV obscene since female newscasters , hosts don't mind wearing very revealing clothes...
Which makes them imply it is men who chose their outfits. No...they chose their own clothes.
That's a different matter. I quite agree that these people can choose their line of work.
 

Stevicus

Veteran Member
Staff member
Premium Member
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He fessed up to the actions, though his lawyer’s statement needs a lot of work.

While we regret the situation, Mr. Callaway did not act with any criminal intentions. Tommy is a loving husband and father who is very active in his community. We have been in touch with WSAV and representatives for Ms. Alex Bozarjian, as well as members of Savannah law enforcement. We do not expect any criminal charges to arise from this incident, and we are working with those involved to correct the situation.
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Actually, it appears that the reporter is pursuing criminal charges over this incident: TV reporter seeks criminal charges against man who slapped her backside on camera

Alex Bozarjian filed a sexual battery report with the Savannah Police Department on Monday, saying she wanted the department to pursue charges against the man, identified as Thomas Callaway. The department told NBC News on Wednesday that a detective has been assigned and the matter is under investigation.

Callaway said that he called the TV station and apologized.

“I’m thankful for this opportunity to share my apology," Callaway said. “It was an awful act and an awful mistake.”

“I am not that person that people are portraying me as. I make mistakes, I’m not perfect and I’m asking for forgiveness and to accept my apology,” he said.

Bozarjian said she is considering whether to accept Callaway's apology.

I'm not sure what to make of this case. Yes, he did wrong. He committed a crime, and the reporter has every right to pursue charges.

But on the other hand, it was a just slap on the butt. It's not the worst thing in the world.
 

PoetPhilosopher

Veteran Member
I'm not sure what to make of this case. Yes, he did wrong. He committed a crime, and the reporter has every right to pursue charges.

But on the other hand, it was a just slap on the butt. It's not the worst thing in the world.

I think it should be a lawsuit rather than criminal charges.
 

sealchan

Well-Known Member
But...if a woman does that to a man...
Is it okay, right?


I am talking about double standards here...
Would a woman be vilified likewise?

There is a difference between identity and equality. Identity is who you are, your history and what you are about. Equality is the ability to meet that identity with openness, empathy and understanding.

To each, for each his own.
 

Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
There is a difference between identity and equality. Identity is who you are, your history and what you are about. Equality is the ability to meet that identity with openness, empathy and understanding.

To each, for each his own.

I think this video clarifies everything.



And btw....I still think there is an instrumentalization of random ambiguous episodes like this by American feminism which targets "the straight, white, Christian male".
 
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Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
I am saying I condemn what he did...
But I do think males are too vilified nowadays for actions that will be excused if they are committed by women.
This is so.
I watch a lot of TV....a lot....way too much.
Unwanted touching / hitting of men's nether regions by women is common.
The common situations:
1) It's funny.
2) Men deserve it for saying the wrong thing.
I also observe that sexual violence by men against other men is frequently acceptable.

Caution:
Do not infer from the above that unasked patting wimins on the butt is acceptable.
 
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sealchan

Well-Known Member
I think this video clarifies everything.



And btw....I still think there is an instrumentalization of random ambigious episodes like this by American feminism which targets "the straight, white, Christian male".

He could have apologized. I know it is hard sometimes when, as a man, you choose to do something that, in your mind, played out well...but men are famous for that inner narrative not being nearly considerate enough to how other people might feel. Under the stress of an endurance run I am sure that that lapse in judgment is a little more likely.

A lot of people should be targeting the straight, white, Christian male for being an *** when they intentionally or not put their hand without empathy or permission one someone's ***.

We all have our strengths and weaknesses and its fair game if someone can politicize something successfully to an audience who is ready to lap it up. At the end of the day, hopefully we will all recognize that it is better to live together than to live apart.
 
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