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Mass Shooters have four things in common

epronovost

epronovost

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Good-Ole-Rebel said:
So, if you have criminals stealing guns...the answer is don't make guns for them to steal. What a solution!

One could say we have a lot of money counterfeiter's today. Perhaps the answer is , don't make money and you won't have counterfeiter's.

If you just quit providing the criminal the things he wants to steal, then you solve the problem? Sorry, let me empty my boots as I am wading knee deep in it.

Good-Ole-Rebel
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Using the same logic. It's illegal to rape, yet there are rapists. Since laws against rape don't work because rapist don't obey them, let's make rape legal.

It's not because people break the law that a law is by definition bad. Restricting the availability of firearms is a way to reduce the damage caused by people breaking the law. It's not like guns are a necessity in life like money or cars for example and they certainly pause a problem for public safety that other stolen goods don't. It makes your comparison fallacious.

There will always be criminals. The goal of police work and the justice system is limit the damage of criminal behavior and contain crime not reduce it to 0 as this is a hopeless mission in the first place.
 
Good-Ole-Rebel

Good-Ole-Rebel

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epronovost said:
You are apparently wrong about it (or someone didn't respect the rules of the establishment in question) since there has been such incident in Illinois and Montana in recent years. One of them even happened in a biker bar/restaurent, so more like a private club which might abide by different rules, in Texas.
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'Apparently'?

Pleas show the law where you can legally carry a gun in a bar.

Good-Ole-Rebel
 
Good-Ole-Rebel

Good-Ole-Rebel

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epronovost said:
Using the same logic. It's illegal to rape, yet there are rapists. Since laws against rape don't work because rapist don't obey them, let's make rape legal.

It's not because people break the law that a law is by definition bad. Restricting the availability of firearms is a way to reduce the damage caused by people breaking the law. It's not like guns are a necessity in life like money or cars for example and they certainly pause a problem for public safety that other stolen goods don't. It makes your comparison fallacious.

There will always be criminals. The goal of police work and the justice system is limit the damage of criminal behavior and contain crime not reduce it to 0 as this is a hopeless mission in the first place.
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That is the most ignorant comparison I have ever heard. It is not illegal to own guns. It is already legal.

Whether one commits a crime with a gun is different. What a stupid analogy.

You are starting with the basis of something illegal, and then trying to compare it to something legal. Rape and ownership of a gun are not the same thing.

Good-Ole-Rebel
 
Good-Ole-Rebel

Good-Ole-Rebel

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epronovost said:
It's legal in Arizona, Georgia, Tennesse and Virginia (and legal in 18 States in restaurent that serves alcohol like pubs, resto-bar, etc.) according to this article. Going to the Bar, Pistol in Pocket, Is Legal in 4 States
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Good to know.

In Texas you can't. Then you go by the definition of bar which in Texas means you obtain 51% of your income from alcohol sales.

The biker restaurant shootout here in Texas, if I'm thinking of the one you are, was not a mass killer shooting. It was a fight between two motorcycle gangs.

Again, we are not talking about just where a shooting has occurred. We are talking about things common with these who want to commit mass murders. The most important thing for them is to accomplish what they want to do. They won't get to do that where people have guns. They go to the safe places...gun free zones.

Good-Ole-Rebel
 
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