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More guns is obviously the answer...

Father Heathen

Veteran Member
You're wrong. A lot of people are just gun collectors, who rarely ever shoot them at all, but keep them as part of a collection.

...Who knows what someone might choose to add to their collection. There is no right or wrong, or more responsible choice.

You can bedazzle your guns with rhinestones and glitter all you want. I just consider it a rather flippant and tacky thing to do to a weapon.

I didn't expect my opinion to inflict so much butthurt.
 

esmith

Veteran Member
Theres no way to enforcement laws abiut medications and how chemicals are used in homes either. Yet, most people tend to stay reasonably legal amd use medications in prescribed ways and as intended, and not many people are producing bombs made of common household stuff.
You say "Yet, most people tend to stay reasonably legal amd use medications in prescribed ways and as intended, and not many people are producing bombs made of common household stuff" The same thing can be said about the majority of people who own firearms.
 

esmith

Veteran Member
No, it's unrealistic to think that an armed citizenry would rise up against, much less actually defeat, a tyrannical government. Who would the armed rebellion be organized and coordinated under, and how would you expect to come to a public consensus that the government needs overthrown? And how are a bunch of yokels going to take on better armed and better trained police/military? Most gun owners presume that a tyrannical government would exclusively be a leftist one (a scenario many of them probably fantasize about and hope for, imagining themselves being Rambo.) If a far-right totalitarian regime took power however, the gun crowd would probably be on their knees licking their boots in admiration. I simply don't trust drunken, shotgun toting rednecks to be my savior in the event I find myself under a dictatorship. In fact, I'd wager that their votes would lay the groundwork for such an outcome.
And all that aside, you have gun fetishists who buy chintzy military style gadgets, attachments, accessories, etc. that actually serve no practical use for civilians, just because makes them feel like some sort of bad@*** special-ops commando. Usually same set with open carry; it's about feeling like a bad@*** and letting the world know.
Many actually hope for a situation to occur where they can justifiably kill and be hailed a hero, but a gun should be regarded like a fire extinguisher; have on hand in case of an emergency but hope to never have to use it. Could you imagine people decorating their fire extinguishers or buying stupid, useless attachments for them? Or posing with them?
Ever look at what happened in Vietnam, what happened to the USSR in Afghanistan, and the problem that the military is having in Afghanistan.
As far as the rest of your comments I stand awed at your ramblings.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber
You say "Yet, most people tend to stay reasonably legal amd use medications in prescribed ways and as intended, and not many people are producing bombs made of common household stuff" The same thing can be said about the majority of people who own firearms.
And yet there are a bunch who aren't. Safety training needs to be mandated and enforced. If it wasn't a concern, if it wasn't a problem, people wouldn't be getting shot by babies and cats.
 

oldbadger

Skanky Old Mongrel!
Why? We already have common sense gun control?

Good-Ole-Rebel

Ha ha!
Mandatory 3rd party risks public liability insurance? No!
Mandatory Training ? No!
Mandatory home security surveys? No!
Mandatory secured gun safes? No!
Mandatory Criminal record checks? Possibly.
Mandatory all-gun licensing? No!
Mandatory Age restrictions? :shrug:

Ban on military assault weapons? No!

And more?
 

oldbadger

Skanky Old Mongrel!
Yep, an unloaded firearm is only as good as a club.
What's your problem with a loaded firearm. You do realize don't you that ALL Firearms are to be considered loaded, or wasn't that taught to you.
Well.... sure! But you never know....... some idiot could leave one loaded!

And you don't need loaded guns around if you have reasonable home security in place. How can an intruder gain fast access in to a reasonably secured home?

They can't! And why would a serious intruder pick your home, especially?
 

esmith

Veteran Member
Well.... sure! But you never know....... some idiot could leave one loaded!
Did you not read what I wrote, doesn't appear so to me. Let me refresh your memory. ALL FIREARMS SHOULD ALWAYS BE CONSIDERED LOADED

And you don't need loaded guns around if you have reasonable home security in place. How can an intruder gain fast access in to a reasonably secured home?They can't!
Home security? What kind of home security is reasonable and what type of security would keep an intruder from gaining access to your place of residence?

And why would a serious intruder pick your home, especially?
They want something that they think you have, I would assume.
 

Good-Ole-Rebel

Well-Known Member
With guns, it's not just your responsibility for your safety, as accidents like this prove with neglect and carelessness come risks to others.

Your point? I grew up in a deep rural setting and have been shooting since I was a little kid.

Again, did you read the article? Just because one woman is a dumb*** and shouldn't be allowed to even raise a child does not mean you need more gun laws. What laws could you make that would make this woman change? None.

What do you mean my point? Had you provided all that I said instead of just a sentence you could see my point.

So? Big deal. You know about guns. What is your point? Do you own a gun now?

Good-Ole-Rebel
 

Good-Ole-Rebel

Well-Known Member
Why? I have no need of one. Its not really good for me anyways, since i tend to have fragile moods.

Why? For your safety. But...no problem. You don't want one, that's fine.

Me and mine do have them. And want them. And we are not fragile moods.

Good-Ole-Rebel
 

Good-Ole-Rebel

Well-Known Member
Ha ha!
Mandatory 3rd party risks public liability insurance? No!
Mandatory Training ? No!
Mandatory home security surveys? No!
Mandatory secured gun safes? No!
Mandatory Criminal record checks? Possibly.
Mandatory all-gun licensing? No!
Mandatory Age restrictions? :shrug:

Ban on military assault weapons? No!

And more?

That is not common sense. That is just BS.

They already have background checks. They already have age restrictions. They already have training if you want to carry. And what are you calling a 'military assault weapon'?

Good-Ole-Rebel
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber
Again, did you read the article? Just because one woman is a dumb*** and shouldn't be allowed to even raise a child does not mean you need more gun laws.
This isn't just one woman. Evidence was provided that babies getting a hold of a gun and causing gun accidents is a thing.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Again, if you quote my whole statement you would have your answer. "You don't want one, that's fine". But, your not wanting one does not insure that you will not need one.

Good-Ole-Rebel
She's such a nerd that I wouldn't be surprised that she takes up
shooting, owns a gun, & advocates for greater safety. It also serves
her contrary side, ie, being a gun owner will vex her leftish friends.
 
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