nPeace
Veteran Member
Serious communication problem, and again claiming I said things I never did say. Me tired. It's not working out.It can only be one-sided if you refuse to participate.
I spent a great deal of time answering a significant number of questions from you. Also, you tacitly admitted that you've not read through scientific journals on evolutionary biology, taken courses in evolutionary biology, or attended conferences on evolutionary biology. You also chastised me for attempting to "tutor" you on the subject. Therefore, it's entirely reasonable for me to suggest you take the time to learn the subject you're attempting to debate.
Lately I've not been conversing, but rather have been debating (as a result of your reminding me that this is a debate forum).
Yes it did. You elected to only reply to one very narrow part of that post. The rest of that post remains unaddressed, including several questions that you have not answered. You do realize that in a debate format, that means you have conceded those points, right?
So you are conceding the debate.
Now that that's over, I'm curious....when we first started in this thread I tried to adopt a more friendly approach with you, where I didn't try and debate you as much as just explain the science and scientific POV. In the midst of that, you accused me of being "serpent like" and other things. Normally I would have challenged you on your accusations, but under the new approach I simply apologized and assured you that my intentions were not devious. But later, I saw what seemed to me as you sorta complaining about that approach, and reminding me that this is a debate forum and as such you're here to debate, not discuss. So I obliged and switched back to debating you, and as we saw the exchange ended very quickly after that.
So my question to you is, which approach do you prefer? Would you rather I take a debating team style stance towards you, or would you prefer the more conversational style I used earlier?
I told you before, if I presume something about someone, I will miss what they are communicating, because of what I have set in my mind. I won't be able to help that, unless I let go of my preconception, that I have branded into my thoughts as being true.
Substitute "I", in that sentence with "you", and "my" with "your".
Why would I make these statements, if I were not interested in discussing?
...that's because I am trying to get the perspective of the person in the discussion.
We can discuss the phylogenetic tree, and tiktaalik. What would you like to discuss about them?
I'm asking you because there are different views, so I want to hear from you, so I can discuss the ones you believe.
Why is that important in this discussion?
That is a huge communication problem. It is frustrating hearing someone say I said something, which I never said... and not once, twice, three times.... but over and over again, and almost like indefinite ... even now.
I find it hard to believe these are honest mistakes.
If it is so hard to repeat what I said, accurately, then it must be equally hard to understand what I am saying, as was evident from our long discussions on one subject.
I am really tired Fly. I have totally lost the enthusiasm and optimism I had, discussing this with you. I don't think I can put this to the side.
I tried for a second time.
..and yes, the conversation seems one-sided to me, based on what I have seen.
Signing out.