As an ex-Christian, @Rival, do you feel that Christians "covet" the Torah?
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If thou shalt not covet, isn't 'thou shalt not steal' a redundant commandment
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Yes. I think they take it further and bastardise it; but I suppose we all knew that. It started with Paul.
I don't believe many christians would say that. I would say that the times various passages from the OT are quoted to justify a christian point are probably equal if not more than quotes from the NT.
Okay, I'll redefine my statement: Christians merely pick-and-choose whatever they like from both parts of the Torah (Oral and Written), and discard the rest - which is most of it. Goodbye, most of the commandments, understandings of prophecies, etc. And they seem to be managing this well on their own. What of the Torah do they covet exactly?
It's already part of their theology that they have been grafted into Israel and are now spiritual Israelites, the inheritors of all G-d's promises. I wasn't even aware of this until I left
Sure, but doesn't it seem like they have a constant need to prove this to you?
Absolutely. Protesting too much.
Oh yeah, cherry picking is normal, even the commandments are regularly cherry picked.
Christian Fundimentalists and literalists consider the entire thing valid to their life. Typical christians do cherry pick what suites their needs, some few consider the OT irrelevant.
God?
Well, they don't need the Torah for that.
Hebrew belief is the source of the abrahamic god. They need hebrew writing and belief, without which, no god
But picking and choosing everything else is okay.
No, of course not (I was being sarcastic).
So was i
susanblange
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Coveting is the evil imagination of the heart and it leads to sin. ie stealing or adultery. It is a sin to even think about it. It's the Thought Police from George Orwell's novel 1984.
whirlingmerc
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Overlap in commandments is not a problem
It you put God first truly you would not do any of the other things
No Coveting is a way to emphasize that internal desires if an issue. One may never steal or commit adultery but covet
I'm putting God first, yet here I am walking with strings coming out of my undershirt...yet you say I wouldn't be doing any of the other commandments? God also has positive commandments, bro. Should I quit doing those too?
Oh, one of my positive mitzvot is to set up justice courts.
But hey, I'm putting G-d first. Guess I'll just not bother with that court thing
Anarchy!Oh, one of my positive mitzvot is to set up justice courts.
But hey, I'm putting G-d first. Guess I'll just not bother with that court thing