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Why Does An Archangel From Heaven Have to Debate For Years They Exist?

Do you think Zanda is an archangel?

  • Yes

    Votes: 3 8.8%
  • No

    Votes: 30 88.2%
  • Not sure? Ask...

    Votes: 1 2.9%

  • Total voters
    34

Harel13

Am Yisrael Chai
Staff member
Premium Member
Yeah sorry about that, it says it in the scriptures in Revelation 2:9, and Revelation 3:9-12 is us debating with everyone, before the End of Time.

Yeshua/Yehoshua was King David, they've changed his name into an insult 'jesus', and regularly insult him without realizing.

I'm the next incarnation where the scriptures say there are two options:

1) Allow the Word within the religious texts to become a Fire, accepting prophetic fulfilment.

2) The Source of reality cleanses reality, after the Zionist start Armageddon with Iran.

Then after we have an age of Godliness with the Enlightened Saints.

In my opinion. :innocent:
Once again: Jews care nothing for the NT, so you can't disprove Judaism and prove whether or not Jews are real through the NT.
 

Harel13

Am Yisrael Chai
Staff member
Premium Member
Yeshua/Yehoshua was King David, they've changed his name into an insult 'jesus', and regularly insult him without realizing.
I'm pretty sure we do realize that we insult him, but not in the way you think, although the grub idea certainly is original, and may be put up for consideration.
 

Tumah

Veteran Member
Proverbs 9:8-10 Don’t reprove a scoffer, lest he hate you. Reprove a wise person, and he will love you. (9) Instruct a wise person, and he will be still wiser. Teach a righteous person, and he will increase in learning. (10) The fear of Yahavah is the beginning of wisdom. The knowledge of the Holy One is understanding.

The Messiah is the Holy One of Israel, and yet you sit mocking:

Isaiah 28:22 Now therefore don’t be scoffers, lest your bonds be made strong; for I have heard a decree of destruction from the Lord, Yahavah of Armies, on the whole earth.

In my opinion. :innocent:
Psa. 26:4.
 

wizanda

One Accepts All Religious Texts
Premium Member
Once again: Jews care nothing for the NT, so you can't disprove Judaism and prove whether or not Jews are real through the NT.
Here is why Yeshua/Yehoshua is the fulfilment of prophecy from the Tanakh...

According to the Tanakh God is about to remove all those who stand against the Curse from reality; do you get Rabbinic Judaism stands against Moses to follow the Rabbi?

Yet lets be clear every religious tradition does not follow their original author; we are down near Hell, where the whole world is being tested, and made to be hypocritical on purpose, with the Great Tribulation coming soon.

It would be nice to believe Rabbinic Jews are going to study they could be wrong, and prevent the destruction of mankind; yet prophetically I do not believe it.
I'm pretty sure we do realize that we insult him, but not in the way you think
I'm aware of many insults, and appreciate leading the Gentiles astray on purpose; yet when the Rabbi do not realize the Gospel of John, Paul, and Simon the stone (peter) were prophetically put there by Judaism...

It would be crazy of me to take on board, that Rabbinic Jews can know what they're talking about - so honestly I feel sorry for many, as they have no clue it was all a morality exam.

Generally people will mock something they think looks stupid; thus the name "grub" ('jesus') is put there on purpose - people just like to name call before questioning.

In my opinion. :innocent:
 

wizanda

One Accepts All Religious Texts
Premium Member
This ^^ is all you need buddy. Keep this in mind, and everything else will fall into place :)

Just keep it all in perspective.
I've got great faith "I do not know" having seen the Core of reality in my NDE...

I'm always open to questioning everything; yet legitimately people scare me more and more, as they're not actually willing to question data, and there existence depends on it.

So though I question regularly if I can be illogical, one of my first precedents is to remember we're down near Hell, and most people are clinically insane in some way down here, as their religious textual examinations have already proven.

In my opinion. :innocent:
 

wizanda

One Accepts All Religious Texts
Premium Member
Psa. 26:4.
I was referring to someone who mocks the Divine thinking it is all some game, and not realizing they've been set up by the Source of reality... Wasn't meaning about sitting with 'evil' people.

H3887 - לוּץ - lûts - to make mouths at, that is, to scoff, a mocker, scorner.

Isaiah 29:20-21 For the ruthless is brought to nothing, and the scoffer ceases, and all that watch for iniquity are cut off: who cause a person to be indicted by a word, and lay a snare for the arbiter in the gate, and who deprive the innocent of justice with false testimony.


What you don't get is your Rabbi made up Christianity, mocking Yehoshua in their fake gospel of John, creating an idol by Simon the Pharisaic Stone of Stumbling with his Friend Paul.

The Quran comes along warning that Rabbinic Judaism corrupted the texts, and soon will be held guilty for not fixing the issues.

On the other hand the Messiah is prophesied in Islamic and Judaic texts to come fixing the Anti-Christ; which depends on people being more realistic with what is going on, rather than standing mocking religious texts books, that they are meant to follow.

In my opinion. :innocent:
 

Eddi

Agnostic
Premium Member
Hi, @wizanda

OK:

I used to believe I had a direct line to a higher being (sometimes God, other times The Matrix) because in my life there is a being who communicates with me by touching my body to signify various things, in response to my inner voice…

I now understand this being to actually be an errant Tulpa who I’m now stuck with, that I accidentally created through drugs, music, isolation, and introspection - who is internal to my own psyche but who truly believes itself to be an external Higher power, (and apparently I'm schizophrenic...)

See Tulpa - Wikipedia to learn what a Tulpa is, it's quite a simple concept really

This naughty and deluded Tulpa is named Butterfly

According to your version of the truth, is Butterfly more than a figment of my mind? – is he real and external to me? If so, what is he? And if so, what does that make me?

I’m interested to know if I fit into your theory in any way
 

wizanda

One Accepts All Religious Texts
Premium Member
According to your version of the truth, is Butterfly more than a figment of my mind? – is he real and external to me? If so, what is he? And if so, what does that make me?
We should try to understand what the overall concepts are, and if they can be legitimized logically.

Prophets are connected to the divine, and this is something logical we can establish by theological study...

Yet don't stop at one religious understanding, study who we are in all aspects, and it blesses us by the journey of understanding what is real - remember psychology doesn't understand metaphysics.

In my opinion. :innocent:
 

Eddi

Agnostic
Premium Member
We should try to understand what the overall concepts are, and if they can be legitimized logically.

Prophets are connected to the divine, and this is something logical we can establish by theological study...

Yet don't stop at one religious understanding, study who we are in all aspects, and it blesses us by the journey of understanding what is real - remember psychology doesn't understand metaphysics.

In my opinion. :innocent:
OK, but what do you think I am, and who Butterfly is?
 

wizanda

One Accepts All Religious Texts
Premium Member
OK, but what do you think I am, and who Butterfly is?
The idea you feel the Source's connection doesn't surprise me...

Calling it Butterfly is adding an attribute in some way, and people add many ideas that could be turned into something more mathematically precise as an answer.

I'm not sure who you are without advanced study of everything you know, and where you come from, etc; you know who you are, yet you need to study, rather than listen to people who don't do religious study.

In my opinion.
:innocent:
 

74x12

Well-Known Member
I've been sent by God before the Great Tribulation like Jonah, Noah, Lot, (Luke 17:20-37), this is discussing where that is shown in the religious texts.

Next will be the Battle of Armageddon, where even the Kids film, the 'The Kid Who Would Be King' clearly predicts my birth-certificate name as the chosen name of the Messiah, and yet I'm struggling with religious people getting them to accept it - like happens in the film.

J+sus means 'a grub that shall tear away' יסס.

In Isaiah 51:8 we have a Grub (H5580) compared to Yeshua (H3444), where Yeshua warns of False Christs this is G5580 (Pseudochristos).

Isaiah 51:8 For the moth will eat them up like a garment, and the grub (Sus סס - H5580) shall eat them like wool; but my righteousness will be forever, and my salvation (Yeshua - H3444) to all generations.”

G4597 sus is directly from Hebrew to Greek, so Yehoshua prophesied 'jesus' would be the deception.

Matthew 6:19-21 “Don’t lay up treasures for yourselves on the earth, where moth (Sus) and rust consume, and where thieves break through and steal; (20) but lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth (Sus) nor rust consume, and where thieves don’t break through and steal; (21) for where your treasure is, there your heart will be also.


Zion Elohim comes to bring the Everlasting Gospel (Isaiah 40:9, Isaiah 41:27, Isaiah 52:7).

In my opinion. :innocent:
So you think movies are predicting that you're the Messiah and you also think that Hebrews from 1st century AD named their son the modern English "Jesus" instead of the ancient Hebrew Yeshua? Good to know what you believe; but it proves nothing.

Obviously, Jesus comes from the Greek which was translation from the Hebrew as is seen the Septuagint. So it's a well established translation of the Hebrew. However if you translate it directly it's more likely Jeshua or Joshua. But ... since the new Testament we have today is translated from Greek that's how we end up with Jesus.

In short; your idea that Jesus is a grub is ridiculous.
 

wizanda

One Accepts All Religious Texts
Premium Member
you think movies are predicting that you're the Messiah
Got told me at 4-5 years old my name is in the world's religious texts, at 15 God told me to read the religious texts, at 21 fulfilled Revelation 10, and 24 read the Bible...

There is loads of evidence, the film just confirms what all the religious texts talk about.
you also think that Hebrews from 1st century AD named their son the modern English "Jesus" instead of the ancient Hebrew Yeshua?
The name in Hebrew is Yehoshua; yeshua means salvation.

Matthew 1:21 says he shall be called Yehoshua which means Lord Saves... The deception of changing his name to 'jesus' happened after on purpose.
that's how we end up with Jesus.
One of the Druid Trinity was called Esus, and the Romans needed to make the Druids submit; so they used religion, and adopted all pagan ceremonies to make it look the same - which is why it is called the Mother of All Harlots.

In my opinion.
:innocent:
 

74x12

Well-Known Member
The name in Hebrew is Yehoshua; yeshua means salvation.

Matthew 1:21 says he shall be called Yehoshua which means Lord Saves... The deception of changing his name to 'jesus' happened after on purpose.
One of the Druid Trinity was called Esus, and the Romans needed to make the Druids submit; so they used religion, and adopted all pagan ceremonies to make it look the same - which is why it is called the Mother of All Harlots.

In my opinion.
:innocent:
The Septuagint predates Christ's birth and proves that the Greek translation of Joshua/Jeshua is not a deception; but the correct/accepted translation.

As if we needed more proof.

Rome is under under a curse of "strong delusion" as punishment on Rome for murdering the real Christians. So Rome will always be under this delusion; but nothing prevents people from come out of her and being saved.
ot told me at 4-5 years old my name is in the world's religious texts, at 15 God told me to read the religious texts, at 21 fulfilled Revelation 10, and 24 read the Bible...

There is loads of evidence, the film just confirms what all the religious texts talk about.
Nothing could convince me that God told you these things.
 

wizanda

One Accepts All Religious Texts
Premium Member
Nothing could convince me that God told you these things.
This is the thing everyone is not getting, we do not need to convince anyone the Great Tribulation is soon, and they should question the religious text differently.

In my opinion. :innocent:
 
Hi, @wizanda

OK:

I used to believe I had a direct line to a higher being (sometimes God, other times The Matrix) because in my life there is a being who communicates with me by touching my body to signify various things, in response to my inner voice…

I now understand this being to actually be an errant Tulpa who I’m now stuck with, that I accidentally created through drugs, music, isolation, and introspection - who is internal to my own psyche but who truly believes itself to be an external Higher power, (and apparently I'm schizophrenic...)

See Tulpa - Wikipedia to learn what a Tulpa is, it's quite a simple concept really

This naughty and deluded Tulpa is named Butterfly

According to your version of the truth, is Butterfly more than a figment of my mind? – is he real and external to me? If so, what is he? And if so, what does that make me?

I’m interested to know if I fit into your theory in any way
Ooh, interesting to see tulpae brought up in this conversation. I have four myself, the first two resulting from being alone with my imagination a lot throughout middle school to early high school as a coping mechanism for not being very social during that time.
 
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