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it is one of the titles he has.using the arab word for 'god' in an english discussion is awkward at best.Peace said:
i don't know what you mean by this.btw, i don't believe in the trinity so i don't know why you're approaching me as if i did.you clearly have a pre-concieved disposition towards the idea that 'god/allah' has a name besides his titles, so there's no actual need to continue beyond the recognition of your position.Peace said:
quoting the quran to answer me is like me quoting the NT to answer you, rather pointless right?btw, the NT does not mention 'god''s name beyond the title god(theos).this does not dismiss the fact that the one(one of the one's) referred to be the title has an actual name as is implicated in the OT.
an arrab christian(believing in the trinity) would refer to yeshua(jesus) as allah would he not?
see if you can follow me through this simple study of your logic.
We see that the 'Bible' teaches that 'God's name is [yhwh]. This has important theological implications:
Deuteronomy 13:1-3
[1] "When there arises among you a prophet or a dreamer of dreams, and he shall give you a sign or a wonder, 2and the sign or the wonder shall come true, of which he has spoken to you, say- ing, Let us go after other mighty ones which you have not known and serve them, 3do not listen to the words of that prophet or that dreamer of dreams, for
(yhwh) your Elohim is trying you to know whether you love
(yhwh)your Elohim with all your heart and with all your being.
Deuteronomy 18:20
But the prophet who presumes to speak a word in My Name, which I have not commanded him to speak, or who speaks in the name of other mighty ones, even that prophet shall die
Any prophet who speaks in a name other than that of YHWH is a false prophet, no matter how successful his or her predictions may be. If the name of God in the Quran is Allah, then the god of the Quran is not the same as the God of Moses and Jesus.[1] "When there arises among you a prophet or a dreamer of dreams, and he shall give you a sign or a wonder, 2and the sign or the wonder shall come true, of which he has spoken to you, say- ing, Let us go after other mighty ones which you have not known and serve them, 3do not listen to the words of that prophet or that dreamer of dreams, for
Deuteronomy 18:20
But the prophet who presumes to speak a word in My Name, which I have not commanded him to speak, or who speaks in the name of other mighty ones, even that prophet shall die
(This is why Osama Abdallah and others are trying to prove that Gods name has always been Allah.) The Quran makes a similar declaration:
Surah 4.82
Will they not then ponder on the Qur'an? If it had been from other than Allah they would have found therein much incongruity.
What is the incongruity in the Quran? Simply put, it claims to be a confirmation of the previous scriptures (the Torah, the Psalms, the Prophets, and the Gospel):Will they not then ponder on the Qur'an? If it had been from other than Allah they would have found therein much incongruity.
Surah 2.41
And believe in that which I reveal, confirming that which ye possess already (of the Scripture), and be not first to disbelieve therein, and part not with My revelations for a trifling price, and keep your duty unto Me.
Surah 2.89
And when there cometh unto them a scripture from Allah, confirming that in their possession - though before that they were asking for a signal triumph over those who disbelieved - and when there cometh unto them that which they know (to be the truth) they disbelieve therein. The curse of Allah is on disbelievers.
However, because the name of God in the Bible is YHWH and the name of God in the Quran is Allah, there is an incongruity in the Quran: it claims to be a confirmation of the previous scriptures while at the same time contradicting them on the subject of the name of God. One can see, therefore, that it is impossible for the God of the Bible and the god of the Quran to be the same. YHWH is Gods name in the Bible, but not in the Quran.And believe in that which I reveal, confirming that which ye possess already (of the Scripture), and be not first to disbelieve therein, and part not with My revelations for a trifling price, and keep your duty unto Me.
Surah 2.89
And when there cometh unto them a scripture from Allah, confirming that in their possession - though before that they were asking for a signal triumph over those who disbelieved - and when there cometh unto them that which they know (to be the truth) they disbelieve therein. The curse of Allah is on disbelievers.
Since the Quran claims to be a confirmation of the Bible while contradicting the Bible on a point as simple as the name of God, we must conclude that the two do not have the same origin.If the Quran is correct in its claim that the name of God is Allah, then this means that the Bible contains error, and since the Quran elsewhere affirms the trustworthiness of the Bible, the Quran itself must not have divine origins (or it would not affirm the trustworthiness of a false book). If the Quran is simply wrong about Gods name, then it should be rejected as having divine origins. Thus, while it may be possible (in the theoretical realm) that neither book is true, it is impossible for the Quran to be right about the trustworthiness of the Bible and its own trustworthiness at the same time.
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