usfan
Well-Known Member
A consensus from 'experts' of a flat earth, the 4 humors, spontaneous generation, and leeches to draw out 'bad blood' did not make these true.
Neither does the consensus of universal common ancestry, 13.77 billion years, uniformitarianism, big bang, inflation, or any number of hare brained 'theories' out there that try to answer the PHILOSOPHICAL question:
Why (and how) are we here?
Pretending that belief in atheistic naturalism is 'science!', and belief in a Creator is 'religion!' is just religious bigotry, and outs you as a progressive indoctrinee.
We only have models:
Intelligent Design
Atheistic naturalism
We can only plug the facts into each model, and see if they hold water. Empirical facts do not 'Prove!' either model. They can only suggest possibility and plausibility.
Science is a tool, to test theories, and fit the results into the models.
IMO, the 'theory' of universal common ancestry is full of holes, requires suspension of skepticism, is contrary to observable reality, and requires too much blind faith. It sucks as a scientific theory of origins.
1. Ancient dates are contrived, to mask the impotence of the physical evidence; of which there is none.
2. Fossils appear fully formed in various strata, with no uniformity. Cherry picked speculation is used to declare fossils as 'proof of common ancestry!' They do not even suggest that.
3. Strata is theorized as having been lain down over 'billions of years!', uniformly and constantly. This is not observable reality. Catastrophism is a better model for the formation of geological strata, and ancient dates are not required. Multiple layers can be laid down (which has been observed) in a short time.
4. There are NO TRANSITIONAL ORGANISMS. Every living thing descended from it's phylogenetic type, with only micro, or horizontal variability. They were not 'something else!', in the past, nor are they becoming something else.
5. Common descent is a religious fantasy. It has NEVER been observed, has no mechanism for 'creating' complexity, and cannot be tested or repeated.
These are just a few problems with the 'theory' of universal common ancestry, aka, macro evolution. Facts and science are NOT used, to support this theory, but fallacies. Outrage, ad hominem, arguments of authority, incredulity, plausibility, equivocation, and assertion, are the usual 'evidences' given by the True Believers in common ancestry. They do not have facts or real evidence for this belief, because none exists. So they lash out in frustration at anyone who dares to question the sacred tenets of their faith.
Atheistic naturalism vs creationism is BOTH a scientific and religious debate. It is only the phony narrative, from religious bigots, who try to portray it as 'Atheism is science, creationism is religion!'
Neither does the consensus of universal common ancestry, 13.77 billion years, uniformitarianism, big bang, inflation, or any number of hare brained 'theories' out there that try to answer the PHILOSOPHICAL question:
Why (and how) are we here?
Pretending that belief in atheistic naturalism is 'science!', and belief in a Creator is 'religion!' is just religious bigotry, and outs you as a progressive indoctrinee.
We only have models:
Intelligent Design
Atheistic naturalism
We can only plug the facts into each model, and see if they hold water. Empirical facts do not 'Prove!' either model. They can only suggest possibility and plausibility.
Science is a tool, to test theories, and fit the results into the models.
IMO, the 'theory' of universal common ancestry is full of holes, requires suspension of skepticism, is contrary to observable reality, and requires too much blind faith. It sucks as a scientific theory of origins.
1. Ancient dates are contrived, to mask the impotence of the physical evidence; of which there is none.
2. Fossils appear fully formed in various strata, with no uniformity. Cherry picked speculation is used to declare fossils as 'proof of common ancestry!' They do not even suggest that.
3. Strata is theorized as having been lain down over 'billions of years!', uniformly and constantly. This is not observable reality. Catastrophism is a better model for the formation of geological strata, and ancient dates are not required. Multiple layers can be laid down (which has been observed) in a short time.
4. There are NO TRANSITIONAL ORGANISMS. Every living thing descended from it's phylogenetic type, with only micro, or horizontal variability. They were not 'something else!', in the past, nor are they becoming something else.
5. Common descent is a religious fantasy. It has NEVER been observed, has no mechanism for 'creating' complexity, and cannot be tested or repeated.
These are just a few problems with the 'theory' of universal common ancestry, aka, macro evolution. Facts and science are NOT used, to support this theory, but fallacies. Outrage, ad hominem, arguments of authority, incredulity, plausibility, equivocation, and assertion, are the usual 'evidences' given by the True Believers in common ancestry. They do not have facts or real evidence for this belief, because none exists. So they lash out in frustration at anyone who dares to question the sacred tenets of their faith.
Atheistic naturalism vs creationism is BOTH a scientific and religious debate. It is only the phony narrative, from religious bigots, who try to portray it as 'Atheism is science, creationism is religion!'
