Why is the answer no?
Because if God cared (in the human sense) or needed people's worship to be "great" then, he is not great nor is he independent therefore he is not a God.
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If God exists, would God care how many people believe in Him?
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Because if God cared (in the human sense) or needed people's worship to be "great" then, he is not great nor is he independent therefore he is not a God.
So. As i said, not omnipotent.
Pudding
Well-Known Member
If God does care, then God would care; if God doesn't care, then God wouldn't care.
If God have a time frame, then God would have a time frame; If God doen't have a time frame, then God wouldn't have a time frame.
0 evidence have been provided here to support the statements that:
(1) God exists.
(2) God cares.
(3) God doesn't care.
(4) God have a time frame.
(5) God doesn't have a time frame.
I haven't been convince to believe statements (1) ~ (5) are facts.
Trailblazer
Veteran Member
I fully agree...
“Regard thou the one true God as One Who is apart from, and immeasurably exalted above, all created things. The whole universe reflecteth His glory, while He is Himself independent of, and transcendeth His creatures.”
Gleanings From the Writings of Bahá’u’lláh, p. 166
Trailblazer
Veteran Member
There is some evidence of (1), but no real evidence of (2) (3) (4) or (5).
RedDragon94
Love everyone, meditate often
Right, well, everyone who's alive at the time that Jeremiah 31 occurs which I don't believe has happened yet.
Which means that they either feel hurt by him from some experience, or they didn't have a proper understanding of sin in the world. It could be that people are atheists who don't hate God, but they do hate theism itself because it demands certain behaviors.
The site doesn't seem t want to copy for me so I'll try my best to hold a convo wit you.
On the believer vs. nonbeliever's perspective, yes. What seems deducible to us from nature is flat out rejected by the non-theist. I've pondered that phenomena before.
Y'all talk too much on this website.
I can't even find my previous response.So if God speaks and not everyone understands, then his messages are only for those who will understand. That's my point. Isaiah 55:11 is a good verse in connection here.
Trailblazer
Veteran Member
No, of course it has not happened yet because everyone does not believe in God.
I think some atheists were hurt by God, but Imo that is a small subset of atheists and not the primary reason atheists do not believe in God. I have been terribly hurt by God but I have still managed to keep believing. Part of the reason is because I cannot NOT believe what is obvious to me.
I do not think that atheists hate theism itself because it demands certain behaviors, although they might hate it if they became a theist and those behaviors were required.
Most atheists do not believe in God because there is no evidence for God (or so they think).
What do you mean by “a proper understanding of sin in the world” and why would that cause people to be atheists?
Yes, I ponder this often. Why is what is so obvious to believers so elusive to atheists? I think it is because we se evidence for God in the Messengers and scriptures and they don’t believe those came from God.
Yes, I do talk a lot, but not as much lately as I used to.Y'all talk too much on this website.
Yes, that is true. The messages are only for those who understand because God is not going to MAKE people understand as some atheist I know think God should do.
Isaiah 55:11 So shall my word be that goeth forth out of my mouth: it shall not return unto me void, but it shall accomplish that which I please, and it shall prosper in the thing whereto I sent it.
Thanks for that verse. I am going to keep that in my back pocket.
Well, it was not in my back pocket for very long, because I just took it out and posted it to an atheist on my forum.
RedDragon94
Love everyone, meditate often
When a person does not understand that the world is sinful, they will wonder why bad things happen to good people without seeing that none are righteous.
Okay. What behaviors are required as a theist?I do not think that atheists hate theism itself because it demands certain behaviors, although they might hate it if they became a theist and those behaviors were required.
I think I am a theist with or without Scripture. Ever wake up sometimes and think to yourself this other religion over here is way more interesting than what I've known all my life? This has happened a few times before to me and that's the way today is going.
Ha!
Trailblazer
Veteran Member
I do not know what you mean, the world is sinful. People commit sin, the world just exists and offers opportunities to commit sin.
That depends upon what religion you belong to, if you belong to a religion.
I might think another religion is more interesting, but I do not think another religion is more true.I think I am a theist with or without Scripture. Ever wake up sometimes and think to yourself this other religion over here is way more interesting than what I've known all my life? This has happened a few times before to me and that's the way today is going.
I hope you have a good day. Every day is a struggle for me but at least I do not have to go out today.
THE Art Vandelay
Member
Of course He cares how many people believe in Him and worship him. As the Apostle Peter wrote at 2 Peter 2:9: God is not slow concerning his promise, "....but he is patient with you because he does not desire anyone to be destroyed but desires all to attain to repentance."
If God didn't care, he wouldn't have this open period of time for people to come to know him, what's going to happen in the future, and what they must do to be spared destruction.
If God didn't care, he wouldn't have this open period of time for people to come to know him, what's going to happen in the future, and what they must do to be spared destruction.
IndigoChild5559
Loving God and my neighbor as myself.
From the moment of the Big Bang, all the laws of physics are set to create the sort of universe that would eventually, somewhere, evolve sentient life.
Out of infinite possibilities.
The odds are staggering.
Indeed, it looks rather chosen.
Our intuitive minds, which are much better at understanding social elements, leaps ahead to understand that the Source behind the Big Bang created the universe with the intent to create sentient life. That's the whole purpose.
What is it about sentience that is so important? My guess would be that intelligence sentient beings can interact with a Divine Intelligence.
Apparently, God enjoys our company.
Out of infinite possibilities.
The odds are staggering.
Indeed, it looks rather chosen.
Our intuitive minds, which are much better at understanding social elements, leaps ahead to understand that the Source behind the Big Bang created the universe with the intent to create sentient life. That's the whole purpose.
What is it about sentience that is so important? My guess would be that intelligence sentient beings can interact with a Divine Intelligence.
Apparently, God enjoys our company.