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Amazing MTF Transgender Transformations

Saint Frankenstein

Wanderer From Afar
Premium Member
dislike Political Correctness so I will be blunt: in their bedroom that transgender woman (who still has a penis) penetrates that transgender man (who still has a vagina) and ejaculates into her.

Children will have to understand theif parents are special , different.
You mean "ejaculates into him".

Children can understand that very well on their own. It's always adults projecting their fears and anxieties onto children. People don't even like to hear about their parents having sex usually, so why would they care about the finer details? Should parents tell their kids exactly what position they were in when they conceived, too?
 

Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
You mean "ejaculates into him".

Children can understand that very well on their own. It's always adults projecting their fears and anxieties onto children. People don't even like to hear about their parents having sex usually, so why would they care about the finer details? Should parents tell their kids exactly what position they were in when they conceived, too?
Ok...I know I have already said this...but...
I deeply, profoundly respect the sex life of everyone, of two consenting adults who are in love with one another and enjoy their relationship.

Nevertheless juridic sciences are very attentive and careful about parenthood...that is, when children are involved...which implies a peculiar study on motherhood and fatherhood from a bioethical standpoint. That's all
 

shmogie

Well-Known Member
I think sexuality is little understood because people are too ashamed of speaking of it freely...
But we are all different...
Some people are just born in the wrong body...
Some people believe they are just born in the wrong body. The issue isn't physical, it is in the brain. Once again, people are free to make their own choices.
 

Earthtank

Active Member
Once again, people are free to make their own choices.

As long as they don't impose their views and beliefs on others. Such as forcing others to believe that a man is a woman and should be addressed as such (which is disrespectful to real women).
 

ADigitalArtist

Veteran Member
Staff member
Premium Member
Not to mention that a gynecologist that allows a FtM person on testosterone to get pregnant is a criminal because artificisl t. can damage the festus, the baby irreversibly.

USA doctors...
First of all, the video you posted mentioned forgoing transition hormones specifically to get and maintain a healthy pregnancy.

Second of all, estrogen and progesterone particularly that effects uterine lining can also hurt the fetus, that does not mean either should be banned, just means they should be stopped if the pregnancy occurs.

Third, far more destructive than either is drinking or smoking while pregnant. Neither of which is illegal in Italian law, so maybe see to your own.
 
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shmogie

Well-Known Member
As long as they don't impose their views and beliefs on others. Such as forcing others to believe that a man is a woman and should be addressed as such (which is disrespectful to real women).
Correct. You have the right to choose if the role being played is real to you, or not.

You should never be forced to use terminology that that you know is incorrect.

However, civility, not the law, dictates that you should use gender neutral terms so there are not hurt feelings.

I know that a man cannot be made into a woman or vice versa, yet a person acting out that fantasy need not know my feelings and knowledge of the matter. It accomplishes nothing. Yet I do not participate in their fantasy by calling a man her or she, they are they.
 

ADigitalArtist

Veteran Member
Staff member
Premium Member
Ok...I know I have already said this...but...
I deeply, profoundly respect the sex life of everyone, of two consenting adults who are in love with one another and enjoy their relationship.

Nevertheless juridic sciences are very attentive and careful about parenthood...that is, when children are involved...which implies a peculiar study on motherhood and fatherhood from a bioethical standpoint. That's all
No study has ever confirmed the importance of gender roles of parents. Not a single one. There is no ethics question here, just one of traditionalism.
 

PoetPhilosopher

Veteran Member
Correct. You have the right to choose if the role being played is real to you, or not.

You should never be forced to use terminology that that you know is incorrect.

However, civility, not the law, dictates that you should use gender neutral terms so there are not hurt feelings.

I know that a man cannot be made into a woman or vice versa, yet a person acting out that fantasy need not know my feelings and knowledge of the matter. It accomplishes nothing. Yet I do not participate in their fantasy by calling a man her or she, they are they.

Respectfully, just don't be surprised if they call you "they" back.

As you said, civility, not the law, decides such things.

I won't call you "they" though.
 

shmogie

Well-Known Member
Respectfully, just don't be surprised if they call you "they" back.

As you said, civility, not the law, decides such things.

I won't call you "they" though.
Thanks, but it wouldn't bother me if you did, it is proper English I think. Everybody wins.
 

Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
No study has ever confirmed the importance of gender roles of parents. Not a single one. There is no ethics question here, just one of traditionalism.
Okay ...I deeply respect your view...
But you should respect mine too...which is:

Being a MtF person who is active during intercourse, that is penetrating, is something neither femenine nor womanly...
Impregnating another woman is not something motherly.
That's my view.
 

Saint Frankenstein

Wanderer From Afar
Premium Member
Okay ...I deeply respect your view...
But you should respect mine too...which is:

Being a MtF person who is active during intercourse, that is penetrating, is something neither femenine nor womanly...
Impregnating another woman is not something motherly.
That's my view.
That's fine for you, but when you want to enforce those views on others with the law, that's something else. You're going to have to come up with a much better argument than "it bothers me".
 

PoetPhilosopher

Veteran Member
Being a MtF person who is active during intercourse, that is penetrating, is something neither femenine nor womanly...
Impregnating another woman is not something motherly.
That's my view.

I think your view is worthy of respect, of course. However, if one ever approaches it from a critical thinking standpoint, either it doesn't hold up that well, or to implement it in say, the United States, would just cause unnecessary grief (I think).
 

Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
I think your view is worthy of respect, of course. However, if one ever approaches it from a critical thinking standpoint, either it doesn't hold up that well, or to implement it in say, the United States, would just cause unnecessary grief (I think).
I would never interfere in US law.:)
 

Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
Castrate or execute them, like with any other rapist or sadistic psychopath.
Horrors like that happen because pre-op MtFs are allowed into female bathrooms, locker rooms etc...
Let's put an end to this.

That is why the Italian law has established surgery as juridic criterion.
 

Saint Frankenstein

Wanderer From Afar
Premium Member
Horrors like that happen because pre-op MtFs are allowed into female bathrooms, locker rooms etc...
Let's put an end to this.

That is why the Italian law has established surgery as juridic criterion.
That has nothing to do that with that. You're making ridiculous leaps of illogic. Trans women are more vulnerable than cis women in women's facilities. Trans women attacking cis women is almost unheard of, hence another reason why that example of yours is so shocking. Honestly, you seem to have a lot of transphobic ideas. I wonder if you're even around trans people that much.
 
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