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Esword KJV+, HOT+, GreekABP+, KJV Concordance is needed to see all the interlinking Strongs indexing system.
It won't be convincing without The Torah.
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Esword KJV+, HOT+, GreekABP+, KJV Concordance is needed to see all the interlinking Strongs indexing system.
That is the whole Bible with Hebrew, Greek, and Strongs reference numbers next to it, for cross referencing all material.It won't be convincing without The Torah.
Muhammad was saying the Jews are Cursed, and it wasn't understood he was referring to what Moses stated (Deuteronomy 28)...Same thing with "The Curse".
Yes have spent most of my life pondering what that means.Pleased to meet you, I'm The Messiah" in everyday conversation. Do you see what I mean?
Messianic Jews accept John, Paul, and Simon the stone, and thus are disqualified from following Yeshua in the Synoptic Gospels.What I find interesting about this is... it lines up perfectly 1 to 1 with Messianic Judaism doesn't it?
As any form of beings the reality is all about us questioning what we are; it just gets more complex code the more we advance.Maybe being human means, we never really fully understand who we are?
Currently many reject the religion they think they follow, thus getting them to recognize this isn't easy; unless we first get people to question they could be wrong.It seems like you would find a lot of support from them?
Not sure there is just one instance, we're talking about using it to show advanced workings of the Bible...Would you please demonstrate how "Esword KJV+, HOT+, GreekABP+, KJV Concordance is needed to see all the interlinking Strongs indexing system"?
The whole world is affected by the Curse, when it is removed from the Jews, all those who went against it are brought into punishment by it.They're disqualified? They're not effected by the curse in Deut 28?
All Christian denominations building on John, Paul, Simon the stone are Anti-Christ's teachings, thus are under condemnation by contradicting the Law and prophets.What about Jehova Wittnesses?
Most of the world doesn't realize these things, only the elect have been told.Do they "realize it"?
We can show since Zechariah 11 was fulfilled with the 30 pieces of silver paid, there has been two thousand years of Moses Curse (Deuteronomy 28) on our people.Do you see the flaw in logic? There is no objective reason to believe that Jewish people are cursed.
We can show the aspects of what Moses states happening. We can show where the prophets said it would happen. The only thing I find strange is the categoric denial by some, of it happening.Do you concede that the claim that curse in Deut 28 is currently in effect is weak at best?
Yeah, I know... there won't be just one instance. I'm looking for good strong examples that demonstrate there is actually something to this whole Esword thing. Also, please try to remember, in this debate I am taking the position of a Torah Observant Jew who is skeptical of your claims.Not sure there is just one instance, we're talking about using it to show advanced workings of the Bible...
The point is more, if explaining this is stated here, generally implying plus all the additional contexts we can see in using this software.
As we continue understanding different issues, it gets shown regularly by many aspects.
OK. That actually makes a lot of sense ( if it's true ). Thank you for explaining your POV.The whole world is affected by the Curse, when it is removed from the Jews, all those who went against it are brought into punishment by it.
This is a perfect example, if you would please proceed to show me this ^^. I'll continue to take the position of a Torah Observent Jew and I'll let you know if there are any factual in inaccuracies in the chain of logic. I think it will be really helpful for you.We can show since Zechariah 11 was fulfilled with the 30 pieces of silver paid, there has been two thousand years of Moses Curse (Deuteronomy 28) on our people.
This is one of these Bible word search times, where doing word searches on the Curse, understanding the contexts presented illuminates what was stated to happen.
What I'm looking for is:We can show the aspects of what Moses states happening. We can show where the prophets said it would happen. The only thing I find strange is the categoric denial by some, of it happening.
Good question.Does this mean that everyone is blind? If so, aren't you setup to fail?
1) The NT is proof the Tanakh is real; the idea of Rabbinic Judaism rejecting it from a lack of discernment is dumb; it was created by God to test Judah and the world, where they've currently all chosen not to sit the exam... The result is mankind is soon destroyed, and God starts reality again.1) They require the NT
2) They are metaphorical, not literal
3) There are often errors in the proofs and there are likely to be more
4) A leap of faith is required in order to show relevance
Was just thinking to write the equations out, yet already know now you're deleting half the sum before looking at it; which means the chains of maths will fail automatically.What is your subjective judgement of the strength of claim?
Judah in Zechariah 12 has forceably gone against the Curse, moved back into Israel to steal back Jerusalem (Zechariah 12:5-6), and are causing an affray which leads to WW3 (Armageddon).If you can show it ( the curse ), and when you do, will it be a strong argument?
We can not prove that the world isn't more sceptical; yet this is prophesied in multiple places (Matthew 24:12), so in Zechariah 5 which is about the Deception by the Anti-Christs after Yeshua misrepresenting him, and creating a city built on bloodshed (Habakkuk 2), where people don't see their own wickedness in this time.Can you prove me wrong?
Brother, I am not doing that at all. Not even one bit. I am not deleting anything from your maths. I am looking at every verse you reference in them.Was just thinking to write the equations out, yet already know now you're deleting half the sum before looking at it; which means the chains of maths will fail automatically.
OK. Just don't try to prove any of this. And I hope you realize that any mention of the book of Revelations and Satan will open up a whole can of worms if you are debating with a Jewish person. In fact, I would be very careful whom you share this with. It's got a creep factor of 11.As saying about the 7th Beggar, it discuss the conversation I've had over the last 13 years with him in Revelation 3:9-12, where it puts him as a Fake Jew of the Synagogue of Satan; whereas me with the new name, it says God gave me the knowledge to free others from the Trap that mankind is in before the Great Tribulation.
According to prophecy I'm giving out free eye salve to help people see, giving them refined gold without impurities of misunderstandings (Revelation 3:18), i.e Christ back with the Everlasting Gospel (Revelation 14:6).
At the ending of the Curse in Deuteronomy 30:7 the Lord puts all these curses on our enemies, and on those who hate us, who persecuted us (Us = Zion being our people).
OK, prove that the NT is true. The problem you will run into is inconsistency. It's inconsistent to accept part of the NT as true and part of it as fabricated.1) The NT is proof the Tanakh is real; the idea of Rabbinic Judaism rejecting it from a lack of discernment is dumb; it was created by God to test Judah and the world, where they've currently all chosen not to sit the exam... The result is mankind is soon destroyed, and God starts reality again.
2) The whole of reality is metaphoric none of this is real, it is an elaborate test to see who is spiritual enough to get it... The result currently is those who are not wise enough get deleted (personally don't think it is fair as the exam is too complex, which is why I came to help).
3) There is always errors in any system, it doesn't mean the system is a failure because of odd discrepancies if the overall mathematical result is built on precept upon precept.
4) If there is something that feels it is a leap of faith, where maths is not supplied, ask and I've most likely got additional equations to make it add up.
I am still waiting to see 1 logical chain that is valid from beginning to end. So far you have not connected anything to Yeshua outside of 1 verse in Exodus and the entire NT. I grant that the NT is about Yeshua. But so far, there is only 1 verse that is a good strong fit in The Torah.This also summarizes why every Jew I've spoken with also fails, because they are doing the same thing, they assume they know more than the textual data.
OK, this is a perfect example. I asked a direct question: "Can you make a strong argument?" And this is the answer? The answer should be "yes" "no" "maybe" etc... Now. I didn't have to read past Armageddon to know that this is a weak argument if the audience is a Jewish person.Judah in Zechariah 12 has forceably gone against the Curse, moved back into Israel to steal back Jerusalem (Zechariah 12:5-6), and are causing an affray which leads to WW3 (Armageddon).
This is Deuteronomy 29:19-27 where because they think they have peace, ignoring the contexts of the prophets, God defends the righteous and removes them for being so arrogant, to ignore the instructions.
It is a test to see who listens, if we take into account Yeshua cites the Parable of the Wicked Husbandmen (Matthew 21:33-46, Mark 12:1-12, and Luke 20:9-19), which is a parable built on Isaiah 5, with him being the coming Lord, the whole text is about these passages:
Isaiah 5:3 “Now, inhabitants of Jerusalem and men of Judah, please judge between me and my vineyard.
Ezekiel 43:7 He said to me, “Son of man, this is the place of my throne, and the place of the soles of my feet, where I will dwell among the children of Israel forever. The house of Israel will no more defile my holy name, neither they, nor their kings, by their prostitution, and by the dead bodies of their kings in their high places;
God doesn't want people following old dead kings, and old laws, yet not bothering with morality, and finally God wants us to listen to him first, Yeshua was speaking so precisely in places it is beyond human capacity...
It has taken me 15 years of study, as we needed a computer to see all the interlinking passages.
I really like this. It feels softer. I think you should use this tone more often.We can not prove that the world isn't more sceptical; yet this is prophesied in multiple places (Matthew 24:12), so in Zechariah 5 which is about the Deception by the Anti-Christs after Yeshua misrepresenting him, and creating a city built on bloodshed (Habakkuk 2), where people don't see their own wickedness in this time.
After this time God is just removing all the demons in a day, and then people will accept the Messiah, and most people know us in this time to come.
Like there seems to be this expectation that the Messiah has to win people over; in Ezekiel 34 at the coming of the Messiah, the Lord God separates the Harvest before it.
You see once the Messiah comes, the Lord creates an everlasting covenant with mankind, which shall never be removed again, and we become infinite beings who no longer age the same; yet we are not keeping all those who didn't pass the exam...
As a teacher I don't mind helping people pass the exam paper; yet many of them think we need to show them the results, and then walk them into the prize ceremony at the end.
In my opinion.
Sorry didn't mean to offend you, and should've been more item specific:But I am not deleting half the sum; I object to that.
Actually this is where you rejected the sums again...The original claim was: "Yeshua removed Judah and Israel for 30 pieces of silver (Zechariah 11)". But, that's not accurate.
Yes I get the need of consistency in the understandings, and to understand how Yehoshua is a symbolic branch takes reading the contexts; same how the salvation (H3444) of God interacted with mankindDo you see?
Christians are the naive gentiles to put off the Jews from studying their own texts (Deuteronomy 32:21).I don;t care about "seeing Yeshua". So if you show me math with "To See + Yeshua = ....... " I don't care. It's completely irrelevant. In order to convince me, the actual beginning of the argument is no different than any other Christian mission.
The NT is an exam, where parts are deliberately created to contradict other bits.... God is looking for Levites.It's inconsistent to accept part of the NT as true and part of it as fabricated.
What I've already shown is enough to show they're not Jews, as Yehudah means those who praise the Lord, and Yehoshua came in his name.Jews don't want to see Yeshua. Why? Because they are not Christian.
The Zionist cabal are about to cause the greatest war in human history, and they don't believe their own texts.Brother, Jews don't believe in Armageddon. That's Christianity and others...
Actually the thread is only partially on Yeshua, it is on El Elyon is Allah; where the Quran and Bible say the Jews have rejected the Source of reality as God, as they think Yahavah Elohim is a godhead.But there's nothing ground breaking in what you are presenting because it still needs Jesus at the end of the day.
Thank you for this. I really appreciate it. But regarding esword.Sorry didn't mean to offend you, and should've been more item specific:
Because of rejecting Esword study, there is a load of contexts I'd thought would've become more apparent, where interconnecting passages are found in Strong's indexes.
Actually this is where you rejected the sums again...
Yeshua in Genesis 49:18 can be seen as an expectation, Exodus 15:2, Psalms 118, and Isaiah 12:2 all state the Lord will become our Salvation (Yeshua).
Yehoshua is the original name given by Moses to lead us into the promised land.
Yeshua in Genesis 49:18 can be seen as an expectation, Exodus 15:2, Psalms 118, and Isaiah 12:2 all state the Lord will become our Salvation (Yeshua).
What??? Not in this thread you didn't.What I've already shown is enough to show they're not Jews, as Yehudah means those who praise the Lord, and Yehoshua came in his name.
This is actually great that you brought this up. It gives us a great example of a conspiracy theory, the weakest of the weak arguments.The Zionist cabal are about to cause the greatest war in human history, and they don't believe their own texts.
Thank God this is prophesied, that God is going to step in, else we would be doomed.
Bring it. If this is the meat and potatoes of your message. I am prepared to discuss it.Actually the thread is only partially on Yeshua, it is on El Elyon is Allah; where the Quran and Bible say the Jews have rejected the Source of reality as God, as they think Yahavah Elohim is a godhead.
The point about Yeshua was he tried to correct them as prophesied to the God Most High, proving why the Curse was placed (Malachi 4:4-6).
Every translation is circumspect, people always have personal biases...So, right there the KJV is a bad source for anything having to do with prophecy.
Because in Isaiah 52:10 that spirit of Salvation is put into the flesh of David... Christians miss it was David, and make an idol.How are these 4 verses connected to Zecharia 11?
Deuteronomy 32:15 they've rejected the Rock of our Salvation (Yeshua - H3444); the Spirit of the Lord was placed into him, they didn't accept it.If the proof is based on the name "Yehuda" then it's easy to show that Jews praise God. 3 times a day on weekdays, 4 times on Shabbos, 5 times on Yom Kippur.
Firstly your hypothesis of my thinking is a dangerous direction; I've been told as a child to expect certain things as a messenger, these things exist, I expect the outcomes.
- Why is "To See Yeshua" in this verse or that verse?
- Why is "To Become Yeshua" in this verse or that verse?
- Why Am I so similar to Jesus?
- Why do I have dreams where I am on the cross?
- Why did my life follow the specific course of events that it did?
- Why is the world so messed up?
- Why wo';t anyone, not just Jews, listen to my discoveries and take them seriously?
- What else could it be, I must be the Messiah.
- What else could it be, Everyone must be cursed.
- What else could it be, there must be a Jewish Cabal.
- What else could it be, They're fake Jews.
- What else could it be, we are in the end times.
Please note: everytime you take a name like YeHoShua and slit it up into it's constituent parts... you're translating.Every translation is circumspect, people always have personal biases...
OK. See what happened. I was right. In order to justify what you had said already, you needed more data. The fact the you did not include this initially is a huge problem.Because in Isaiah 52:10 that spirit of Salvation is put into the flesh of David... Christians miss it was David, and make an idol.
David suffers being put to death as Yehoshua or Yeshua.
The Jews then mourn in Zechariah 12:10 because they realize we murdered our own king; which caused the Curse to be put onto us in Zechariah 11.
Deuteronomy 32:15 they've rejected the Rock of our Salvation (Yeshua - H3444); the Spirit of the Lord was placed into him, they didn't accept it.
Yahavah became Yeshua - the Lord is the only one who can save, so he became our salvation.
Yet not by human sacrifice as that is illegal; yet by repentance in his name.
Since they've rejected King David reincarnated as Yehoshua, the Lord's prophets, the Torah, the God Most High, etc - because of other nations they've gone against the whole Bible.
Whilst following some Babylonian Kabbalistic religion built on top, about some being called Hashem, who is a representation of Yahavah (Lord of Creation) - yet it became Yeshua (Salvation), whilst they've rejected that.
According to the Curse, next everyone shall be removed from reality for being atheists, even though they think they are following the book (Deuteronomy 32:15-22).