Wandering Monk
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Hearing the evidence will not change anyone's vote. Strip off the mask. Let's see what kind of people these congress members are.
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Why Bother With the Charade?
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Hearing the evidence will not change anyone's vote. Strip off the mask. Let's see what kind of people these congress members are.
Actually I think it is pretty much all out there already. I just think s lot of people are not paying attention. Even some Senators have said they refuse to read the transcripts or even watch the hearings.
epronovost
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Aren't the hearings precisely held for that very reason. To allow you to see why some Congressmembers will vote for or against impeachment thus to see what kind of people they are.
sealchan
Well-Known Member
Don't take it personally...it is important that the American people learn the truth from those credible individuals who are, in good faith, reporting unethical or potentially illegal activity.
Just today I was taking a corporate training course in Bribery...I shall quote here:
Such are ethical standards. Trump clearly tried to bribe a foreign leader by delaying promised aid in return for unethical assistance with attempting to slander the reputation of one of his leading competitors.
Every person who takes corporate ethics training annually such as myself sees this clearly. Airing out the details to the American public and even the world is the sworn duty and responsibility of Congress.
Wandering Monk
Well-Known Member
It is very unlikely that this impeachment will change voter's minds. This story conveys that. If the constituents have their minds made up, there is no political reason for their representative to change their minds.
Poll: Most voters remain unmovable in impeachment views
Remarkable witnesses -- the very antithesis of the vulgar scum demeaning the Presidency and his cowardly band of enablers.
Wandering Monk
Well-Known Member
You would be one of the 80% who already have their minds made up. Thanks for making my point for me.
Even if it is only 20% that could still be convinced that is a lot of voters.
Yes, there is zero possibility of convincing me that Trump is not pathological, self-serving, narcissist owned by Putin.
No. It is up to the voters now that much will be made public.
Subduction Zone
Veteran Member
There are a significant amount of independent voters. They are the target of this inquiry rather than hardcore Democrats or Republicans. They are the ones that will decide the next election. They could be convinced that Trump should be impeached and removed from office. If the Democrats provide good evidence of Trump's wrong doings it could easily cost Trump his reelection bid.
Wandering Monk
Well-Known Member
Will you Congressman change his/her opinion on impeachment based on which way the political wind blows? Are you confident of this?
sealchan
Well-Known Member
OIC...yes, there is logic and then there is political power.
I just wish those voters who are afraid of the loss of political power could better see that being moral and ethical is worth any short term sacrifice that might be made. Besides Republicans are bleeding districts nationwide...
QuestioningMind
Well-Known Member
How sad that you make up your mind about things before you even hear the evidence. Sad and pathetic, actually.
I very much doubt it.
Reasonably confident, but I could be wrong. The fact of the matter is that my Congressman is in a reliably blue district and I've never seen him tested, but he strikes me as being principled, honest, and informed.
sealchan
Well-Known Member
Even if the vote is already set, it is still important to get the facts out there and to show that government is ALSO a process whereby the facts are searched for and presented. Did Trump attempt to bribe a foreign leader in order to create slander against a political rival? Obviously, yes.
Future generations who are not so attached to the outcome of today's political power plays will appreciate that we still took the time to look at the facts.
For what it's worth, my crystal ball shows the same. But it's a cheap knock-off version I got from e-bay, so...yeah...
It's like when you catch someone with a smoking gun. Just dispose of the trial and move immediately to a verdict and sentence. All that 'due process' baloney is such a waste of time.
I think you mean “smocking gun”.
If you've been here on Religious Forums long enough, you'll know that "information" has next to nothing to do with how a lot of people think.