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150 rockets fired at Israel after IDF assassinates Gaza terror leader

Lyndon

"Peace is the answer" quote: GOD, 2014
Premium Member
it is actually a democratic government and some people think that democracy is a fine idea.

Hitler's party was elected by the german people, I guess you call that democracy, not fascism??
 
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Rival

Si m'ait Dieus
Staff member
Premium Member
Hitler's party was elected by the german people, I guess you call that democracy, not fascism??
Actually I believe the SA threatened people into voting for Hitler.

The government used widespread intimidation and electoral fraud to secure a large "yes" vote. This included stationing storm troopers at polling stations and forcing clubs and societies to march to polling stations escorted by Nazi storm troopers and then vote in public. In some places polling booths were removed or banners reading "only traitors enter here" hung over the entrances to discourage secret voting. In addition, many ballot papers were pre-marked with "yes" votes, spoiled ballot papers were frequently counted as having been "yes" votes, and many "no" votes were recorded to have been in favour of the referendum question. The extent of this forgery meant that in some areas the number of votes recorded to have been cast was greater than the number of people able to vote.[7]

 

Rival

Si m'ait Dieus
Staff member
Premium Member
The Nazis were voted into power in 1932 not 1934
Hitler was not a supreme dictator at that point, nor was he seen as legitimate. He needed the referendum of 1934 to stake his claim and merge the positions of Chancellor and President to achieve dictatorship. Without this it's arguable if he could have stayed in power at all.

However, if you insist:

March 1933 German federal election - Wikipedia
The 1933 election followed the previous year's two elections (July and November) and Hitler's appointment as Chancellor. In the months before the 1933 election, brownshirts and SS displayed "terror, repression and propaganda [...] across the land",[1]:339 and Nazi organizations "monitored" the vote process. In Prussia 50,000 members of the SS, SA and Stahlhelm were ordered to monitor the votes by acting Interior Minister Hermann Göring, as auxiliary police.[2]

The Nazis registered a large increase in votes in 1933. However, despite waging a campaign of terror against their opponents, the Nazis only tallied 43.9 percent of the vote, well short of a majority. They needed the votes of their coalition partner, the German National People's Party (DNVP), for a bare working majority in the Reichstag.

July 1932 German federal election - Wikipedia
Federal elections were held in Germany (Weimar Republic) on 31 July 1932, following the premature dissolution of the Reichstag. They saw great gains by the Nazi Party, which for the first time became the largest party in parliament but without winning a majority.
 

rosends

Well-Known Member
Look like you will defend Israel whereas I will stand up for Palestine right to defend themselves when Israel attacks them. The sad thing is that Israel is backed by the USA when it comes to weapons so of course, they going to have a lot more fancy weapons to launch at Palestine.
I'm not sure where you got this statement from. I simply gave a timeline of events to supplement what you said (from Haaretz, no less). The sad thing is that you will only accept information which paints Palestinians as victims even though the actions of the Palestinian government and the various factions supported by outside governments are what put the civilians in danger.
 

ImmortalFlame

Woke gremlin
Actually I believe the SA threatened people into voting for Hitler.

The government used widespread intimidation and electoral fraud to secure a large "yes" vote. This included stationing storm troopers at polling stations and forcing clubs and societies to march to polling stations escorted by Nazi storm troopers and then vote in public. In some places polling booths were removed or banners reading "only traitors enter here" hung over the entrances to discourage secret voting. In addition, many ballot papers were pre-marked with "yes" votes, spoiled ballot papers were frequently counted as having been "yes" votes, and many "no" votes were recorded to have been in favour of the referendum question. The extent of this forgery meant that in some areas the number of votes recorded to have been cast was greater than the number of people able to vote.[7]


The Nazis were voted into power in 1932 not 1934
The '34 referendum was about merging the posts of Chancellor and President, leading to the establishment of Hitler as the first fuhrer and de facto head of state.

It is also worth noting that, while intimidation and coercion was definitely used, it's likely Hitler had majority support anyway. From the Wiki:

"Nevertheless, historian Ian Kershaw has judged that even after accounting for the manipulation of the voting process, the results "reflected the fact that Hitler had the backing, much of it fervently enthusiastic, of the great majority of the German people" at the time."
 

rosends

Well-Known Member
Hitler's party was elected by the german people, I guess you call that democracy, not fascism??
Well, the rule of law after the elections was fascistic in nature though the governemnt was democratically elected years earlier. As elections have continued and the democratic method is still in force in Israel, I would not equate the two.
 

Flankerl

Well-Known Member
I will stand up for Palestine right to defend themselves when Israel attacks them

Them? So the Palestinians as a group were attacked when Israel killed a commander of the Islamic Jihad?

You really got to get your mind up. One day the terrorists aren't synonymous with the Palestinians and another day they are.
 
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Spirit of Light

Be who ever you want
I'm not sure where you got this statement from. I simply gave a timeline of events to supplement what you said (from Haaretz, no less). The sad thing is that you will only accept information which paints Palestinians as victims even though the actions of the Palestinian government and the various factions supported by outside governments are what put the civilians in danger.
Not sure I said that Palestine is the only one who suffers in the middle east. or between Israel and Palestine. But it is clear that Israel has a lot more money to buy high-tech weapons then Palestine has. I feel sorry for both Israeli civilians just as I feel sorry for Palestine civilians who are caught between Israeli government and Hamas in their fights. And No i do not support Hamas or the Israeli Military/Government, But i support the civilians
 

Spirit of Light

Be who ever you want
Them? So the Palestinians as a group were attacked when Israel killed a commander of the Islamic Jihad?

You really got to get your mind up. One day the terrorists aren't synonymous with the Palestinians and another day they are.
I suppot the civilians on both sides, Not the Military/government of Israel or Hamas on the Palestinian side.
 
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rosends

Well-Known Member
Not sure I said that Palestine is the only one who suffers in the middle east. or between Israel and Palestine. But it is clear that Israel has a lot more money to buy high-tech weapons then Palestine has. I feel sorry for both Israeli civilians just as I feel sorry for Palestine civilians who are caught between Israeli government and Hamas in their fights. And No i do not support Hamas or the Israeli Military/Government, But i support the civilians
I didn't claim that you said that Palestine is the only one who suffers. Israel has money, true. And yet terrorists in Gaza find the money to buy rockets and other weapons (apparently, the rockets fired yesterday cost upwards of $6,000,000) and fire them at Israeli civilians.
 

Flankerl

Well-Known Member
I suppot the civilians on both sides, Not the Military/government of Israel or Hamas on the Palestinian side.

Hamas has pretty much done nothing in this whole ordeal.

Islamic Jihad got their Commander of Northern Gaza killed and then showered Israel with rockets.
Then Israel retaliated and you began to whine about Israel's retaliation.


Nothing you do is in any way new. You are just another anti-Israel poster who claims to have no problem with Israeli civilians or Jews. Yet you have a problem with Israel defending its citizens.
 

ImmortalFlame

Woke gremlin
Hamas has pretty much done nothing in this whole ordeal.

Islamic Jihad got their Commander of Northern Gaza killed and then showered Israel with rockets.
Then Israel retaliated and you began to whine about Israel's retaliation.


Nothing you do is in any way new. You are just another anti-Israel poster who claims to have no problem with Israeli civilians or Jews. Yet you have a problem with Israel defending its citizens.
I think posts like this are just extremely unfair. Go back and look at the first page. It started with Landon referencing the bombing with little to no context, and Amanaki responding by asking if they care when the bombing is the other way around. Within two posts, they already stated their position that they do not support killing on both sides.

Bringing up the continued suffering and genocide of the Palestinian people in a thread about Palestine/Israeli bombings does not make you a whiner. Especially when the OP demonstrates a lack of understanding of the conflict and alleges that Israel has never done anything similar.
 

Flankerl

Well-Known Member
genocide of the Palestinian people

Which simply is not a thing.
Not even the Palestinian Authority claims that the population numbers are in any way receding, whether in Gaza or Judea and Samaria.

But hey who cares about words. It's a genocide, Israel is like the Nazis if not worse.
Heard it all before and nothing new.



There's a video of it. A literal video.

Somehow AI didn't call for an investigation when the news first struck, now that there's a video that simply disproves their allegation they call for one.

And you probably think they are right too.
 

rosends

Well-Known Member
Which simply is not a thing.
Not even the Palestinian Authority claims that the population numbers are in any way receding, whether in Gaza or Judea and Samaria.

But hey who cares about words. It's a genocide, Israel is like the Nazis if not worse.
Heard it all before and nothing new.




There's a video of it. A literal video.

Somehow AI didn't call for an investigation when the news first struck, now that there's a video that simply disproves their allegation they call for one.

And you probably think they are right too.
just for a laugh...
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Lyndon

"Peace is the answer" quote: GOD, 2014
Premium Member
accurate like the ridiculous claim that the home made rockets cost 6 miilion dollars??
 

ImmortalFlame

Woke gremlin
Which simply is not a thing.
Not even the Palestinian Authority claims that the population numbers are in any way receding, whether in Gaza or Judea and Samaria.
Israel has a record of removing the human rights of Palestinian people and forcefully expelling them from their homes, denying them basic resources and humanitarian aid, demolishing Palestinian settlements and villages, restricting their work permits and healthcare .
SOURCES: World Report 2019: Rights Trends in Israel and Palestine
1948 Palestinian exodus - Wikipedia

This is attempting genocide against the Palestinian people.

Also, if you want to reply to my posts, reply to the whole thing. Don't just take one part of one sentence and respond to that. I was making a broader point about how and why your post was unfounded and unfair, and I won't let you distract from that by misrepresenting me.

But hey who cares about words. It's a genocide, Israel is like the Nazis if not worse.
Heard it all before and nothing new.
Maybe don't jerk your knee so hard. If Israel's platform of dehumanization, eviction and removing the rights of the Palestinian people is not genocide, what is it?

There's a video of it. A literal video.

Somehow AI didn't call for an investigation when the news first struck, now that there's a video that simply disproves their allegation they call for one.

And you probably think they are right too.
Or it's a Twitter account that posted the tweet before all the facts came out.

Again, stop jerking your knee.
 
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