Cooky
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Research the Palestinian Islamic Jihad group, then come back and argue your points. Then we can have a real discussion, after you learn.
aka: Islamic Jihad Movement in Palestine - Wikipedia
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150 rockets fired at Israel after IDF assassinates Gaza terror leader
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Research the Palestinian Islamic Jihad group, then come back and argue your points. Then we can have a real discussion, after you learn.
aka: Islamic Jihad Movement in Palestine - Wikipedia
rosends
Well-Known Member
You have a couple of problems here:
1. There was no country or nation known as Palestine. The area was under the British mandate after it was taken from the Ottomans. The region was labeled Palestine way back as an attempt to de-Judify it, but if you look at things like The Palestine Post, the Palestine soccer team and the stamps and currency from the mandate era you will see that the term Palestine was associated with Israel and the Jewish people.
2. As the nation of Israel was created via the mandate and voted on and ratified by the UN, claiming it was stolen from anyone is wrong.
3. As there was no nation of Palestine, there would have been no Palestinian to steal it from.
4. The Arab leadership rejected the partition plan and attacked instead of accepting the existence of a state of Israel. It has also rejected a variety of plans which would have given it a nation and coexistence. Israel has unilaterally given up land for the promise of peace. The Hamas symbol still includes an image of the entire of Israel.
Those maps have been debunked repeatedly. You can read up here if you would like. If you would like to see what happens when an Arab woman walks around in a "settlement", watch here. Notice that Israelis aren't allowed in Arab cities.
FearGod
Freedom Of Mind
I asked you many times what they did? did they attack Israel first?
did they kill people in Europe? did they kill Christians in Palestine
or in some other places, just tell me what facts you have?
Cooky
Veteran Member
List of attacks
- August 1987: The PIJ claimed responsibility for a shooting that killed the commander of the Israeli military police in the Gaza Strip.[2]
- July 1989: Attack of Egged bus 405 along the Jerusalem–Tel Aviv highway, at least 14 people killed (including two Canadians and one American) and dozens more wounded. Though intended to be a suicide attack, the perpetrator survived.[42]
- 4 February 1990: A bus carrying Israeli tourists in Egypt was attacked. The attack left 11 people, including 9 Israelis dead and 17 others injured.[43]
- February 1992: in Night of the Pitchforks, killed three Israeli soldiers asleep in their base, using knives, axes and a pitchfork
- December 1993: Killed an Israeli reservist, David Mashrati, during a public bus shooting.
- April 1994: A car bomb aboard a public bus killed 9 people and injured 50.
- January 1995: Bomb attack near Netanya killing eighteen soldiers and one civilian.[22]
- April 1995: Bomb Attack in Netzarim and Kfar Darom. The first bomb killed 8 people including American student, Alisa Flatow, and injured over 30 on an Israel bus; the second attack was a car bomb that injured 12 people.
- March 1996: A Tel Aviv shopping mall is the site of another bombing killing 20 and injuring 75.
- November 2000: A car bomb in Jerusalem at an outdoor market killed 2 people and injured 10.[44]
- March 2002: A bomb killed seven people and injured approximately thirty aboard a bus travelling from Tel Aviv to Nazareth.[44]
- June 2002: Eighteen people are killed and fifty injured in an attack at the Megiddo Junction.[22]
- July 2002: A double attack in Tel Aviv killed five people and injured 40.
- November 2002: 12 soldiers and security personnel killed in an ambush in Hebron.[45]
- May 2003: Three people killed and eighty-three injured in a suicide bombing at a shopping mall in Afula.
- August 2003: A bomber killed 21 people and injured more than 100 people on a bus in Jerusalem.[44]
- October 2003: A bomb killed 22 and injured 60 at a Haifa restaurant.
- October 2005: A bomb detonated in a Hadera market was responsible for killing seven people and injuring 55, five of them severely.
- April 2006: A bomb in a Tel Aviv eatery killed eleven and injured 70.
- January 2007: Both the al-Aqsa Martyrs' Brigades and the PIJ claim responsibility for a suicide bombing at an Eilat bakery that killed three.[22]
- June 2007, in a failed assault on an IDF position at the Kissufim crossing between Gaza and Israel in a possible attempt to kidnap IDF soldiers, four armed members of the al-Quds Brigades (the military wing of Islamic Jihad) and the al-Aqsa Martyrs' Brigades (the military wing of Fatah) allegedly used a vehicle marked with "TV" and "PRESS" insignias penetrated the border fence and assaulted a guard tower in what Islamic Jihad and the army said was a failed attempt to capture an Israeli soldier.[46] IDF troops killed one militant, while the others escaped. The use of a vehicle that resembled a press vehicle evoked a sharp response from many journalists and news organizations. The Middle East director for Human Rights Watch Sarah Leah Whitsonn responded, "Using a vehicle with press markings to carry out a military attack is a serious violation of the laws of war, and it also puts journalists at risk."[47] The FPA responded by saying,
During a press conference, an Islamic Jihad spokesperson Abu Ahmed denied that they had put press markings on the jeep used in the attack and said, "The Al-Quds Brigades used an armoured jeep resembling military armoured jeeps used by the Zionist intelligence services."[48]
- On 26 March 2009, two Islamic Jihad members were imprisoned for a conspiracy "to murder Israeli pilots and scientists using booby-trapped toy cars".[49]
- On 15 November 2012, Islamic Jihad fired two Fajr-5s at Tel Aviv from Gaza, one landing in an uninhabited area of the suburbs and the other in the sea.[50]
- On 24 June 2013, six rockets were fired into Israel; major news outlets reported that the Islamic Jihad were behind the attacks.[51][52][53][54]
- In March 2014 over 100 rockets were launched into southern Israel by PIJ and other Islamist groups. On 14 March Shalah announced that the attack was coordinated with Hamas.[55]
The Israeli forces have killed far far more innocent civilians than all the Palestinian Jihadis put together, they are the real terrorists, and someone can defend them all they like, but that would just make them a supporter of state sponsored terrorism.
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The Zionist rewriting of History!!
Cooky
Veteran Member
At least by backing Israel, I'm not backing tyrannical, racist, homophobes, like Hamas and PIJ. If it weren't for the violence by the Islamic terrorist groups, there could have been interdependence a long time ago.
Cooky
Veteran Member
Israel would have been the perfect golden goose for the Palestinians if they had played their cards right. The potential that 'could have been', had they not resorted to violence, would have been virtually unlimited.
Hamas should have read the book: The 7 Habits of Highly Effective People. Which explains how interdependence works.
Hamas should have read the book: The 7 Habits of Highly Effective People. Which explains how interdependence works.
Shad
Veteran Member
Nope. You do not understand the concept of Total War
Tyrannical, racist, homophobes are running the Israeli government, don't you read the news?? Your idea of Jews seems to be liberal Americans, the Israeli government is much much darker.
Shad
Veteran Member
Their leaders have rejected multiple deals for their own state.
Shad
Veteran Member
That map is of the mandate of Palestine which was never a nation. There was a civil war and a war of independence. Israeli won. The land now under Israeli control followed the same right to conquest Muslims followed themselves until they lost a war.
Shad
Veteran Member
No it wasn't. There were 3 wars which the people fought to create Israel.
Shad
Veteran Member
There are multiple groups of Kurds.
Wait...by that 'logic' I support North Korea, since...ya know...atheism.
Shad
Veteran Member
The Resolution was never implemented. The Civil War broke out.
Cooky
Veteran Member
But you're not a communist, Who bows down to a "supreme leader".
rosends
Well-Known Member
The mandate established an area for Israel. Israel declared its identity, the UN voted to recognize that. There was no civil war. There was a war against surrounding aggressors who refused to accept that Israel could exist.
Cooky
Veteran Member
Really...
"Israel became the first country in Asia to recognize unregistered cohabitation between same-sex couples, making it the first country in Asia to recognize any same-sex union. Although same-sex marriages are not performed in the country, Israel recognizes same-sex marriages performed elsewhere. Discrimination on the grounds of sexual orientation was prohibited in 1992. Same-sex couples are allowed to jointly adopt after a court decision in 2008, while previously allowing stepchild adoptions and limited co-guardianship rights for non-biological parents. LGBT people are also allowed to serve openly in the military."
LGBT rights in Israel - Wikipedia
tel aviv gay pride parade - Google Search
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Shad
Veteran Member
The resolution was never implemented. There was a Civil War in the Mandate from 47-48. You may know it as the Palestinian War or opening of the 1948 Arab-Israeli War. The UN recognized Israel when the dust settled.