Go ahead.
Texiteers commonly post on social media.
They're rather like Brexiters.
Can't really say why, but they're really convinced that they know what will happen.
Tom
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A Second Brexit Vote?
- Thread starter Sunstone
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Texiteers commonly post on social media.
They're rather like Brexiters.
Can't really say why, but they're really convinced that they know what will happen.
Tom
Notanumber
A Free Man
Scotland does not have enough money to satisfy the needs of the EU. They need countries that can splash the cash and will help them to continue with the lifestyle to which they have become accustomed.
They want to keep the UK captive because they are envious of our prospects if we manage to break free of their clutches.
They want to keep the UK captive because they are envious of our prospects if we manage to break free of their clutches.
I just voted No.
Because when England blows up Great Britain, it will probably be in my economic best interests.
The English will have their sovereignty. I'll get better prices on whatever it is that England sells. Especially money, since England won't matter any more than Mexico.
Tom
Because when England blows up Great Britain, it will probably be in my economic best interests.
The English will have their sovereignty. I'll get better prices on whatever it is that England sells. Especially money, since England won't matter any more than Mexico.
Tom
Erebus
Well-Known Member
Ha! Joke's on you. England's only export is snark.
Notanumber
A Free Man
The fat cats in the EU Parliament will not want the poor man of Britain if they have to wave goodbye to the UK as a whole.
Who is going to support Greece when one of the EU’s biggest funders has left the club?
Well, I couldn't really think of anything that I cared about.
I don't need an Aston Martin, or haggis.
If England wants to blow off financial trading, Ireland, and coal, fine. English people can keep telling me that their empire still matters.
As far as I can tell, the problem with Brexit is that England doesn't think that they need anybody. The sun never sets on the British Empire.
We all know that, right?
Tom
Isn't this why the Brits can't actually leave the EU? It's been years!
The British don't actually want to leave.
Even Brexiters know that. So they keep asking for "extensions".
Maybe next year?
Tom
Why don't you people just Leave?
What happened to October 31st? What happened to Boris Johnson?
Tom
Erebus
Well-Known Member
You sure you aren't English?
No, I'm not.
Irish American.
But I have listened to a bunch of English people on RF.
And I can tell the difference between Trumpish nonsense and reality.
Full disclosure:
@Rival put me on ignore.
Tom
Notanumber
A Free Man
The EU cannot rely on Scotland to keep Greece afloat. The EU itself is sinking anyway.
My question was why don't you people just Leave.
As usual, Brexiters just don't answer.
Johnson can just Leave. Exit the EU, right now.
Why didn't he?
My best guess is that he knows that the British don't want to Leave. So, he keeps putting off The Will of the People.
Don't you Brexiters believe in democracy?
Then why don't you just do it?
Tom
Ahahahahaha! You are a blast. You really are.
I can't help but notice that perceptions that the EU has very definite desires to expel or attract other countries for various reasons are all over the place and have neither rhyme nor reason.
Almost like they are being, you know, unfair and careless. But how could that possibly be, eh?
Uh... why on Earth would they ever be? Have you been sitting on some sort of prosperity cornucopia factory that no one knows about, including your own citizens?
What exactly would lead to such a breakthrough? You were not doing so hot when you joined the EEC back in the 1970s, and there is no evidence that you are at all likely to attain better situations out of the EU.
You have already lost a whole lot of credibility in the international community. You are already being perceived as Trump's stools. You would be inflicting a lot of higher tariffs in trade than you currently have. You will be cutting yourselves off from many, many potential sponsors and customers. And you simply do not have anything close to enough or sufficiently differentiated goods or services to make up for all of those self-inflicted handicaps.
You are holding yourselves under gunpoint, and raising your voice in demand for the EU to rescue your pride... on your behalf.
So far that has essentially worked, albeit at the price of your serenity and your reputation. But it won't always.
Johnson will be (rightfully) blamed for the economic consequences. So will the Conservative Party, until and unless they manage to convince a sufficient number of people to accept some scapegoat or another.
That is doubtlessly why the EU keeps conceding further schedule concessions to the UK. They know that the fall will hurt hard and they can live without the smear.
Notanumber
A Free Man
True Brexiteers would leave tomorrow with a clean break Brexit and we would not look back.
Then why have years passed and and Boris Johnson just got another extension?
Maybe there aren't more than a few Brexiters, and Johnson knows it?
I don't claim to know. I'm asking.
Why didn't Johnson exit EU on October 31st?
Why is that a fact?
Johnson didn't Leave.
He could have, but didn't.
Why did Johnson become a Remoaner, for a while, instead of just Leaving?
Tom
oldbadger
Skanky Old Mongrel!
Yes......... 2nd referendum.
Many Remainers and Leavers who were campaigning before the 1st referendum were either extremely dishonest or inept. The majority of Brit voters had no real clues about the consequences of voting, either way.
The only truly detached and accurate assessor (imo) was the governor of the Bank of England, who got shouted at every time he tried to explain how finances could be affected, but many Brits were too angry about unleashed immigration to want to listen.
Me? I voted 'Leave'.
Now? I'll listen to Mrs Badger this time and vote remain.
And that would be a Good Thing, because...?
There are plenty, but there is a lot of circunstantial evidence that they are no longer a majority - if they ever where.
How many of those would accept a No Deal willingly is not very clear. Nigel Farage has changed his discourse significantly in the last three and a half years, to the point of lying that No Deal is the only "true", "clean-break" Brexit.
The guy is quite skilled at the ancient art of saying b.s. with a clean face, that he is. Had he been born some 30 years earlier, he would be a fine addition to Monty Python. And we all would be much better off.
Because he lacked enough support from the House of Commons, which is, to put it briefly, a rather troubled body in these present times.
Boris Johnson is one of those people who do not quite perceive others as real human beings and has tried every trick in the book and then some to circunmvent due process, to the point that the higher court of the UK had to decide whether he might be held criminally responsible for his methods, and the House of Commons had to order him outright to request the extension under penalty of law.
To be fair, he could have, but it would probably result in his arrest and the EU knows that. It would have been rather humiliating, it seems to me.
He did not. He is just not willing to be arrested and lose face for no purpose.
I bet that he considered it, though.
But mostly, he is a Prime Minister as opposed to a President. He never had nearly enough power to decide on his own. He made silly promises anyway because that is how he rolls, and because he fears losing voters to Nigel Farage's Brexit Party and Circus.