Making Money From the Messiah

A Vestigial Mote said:

Amanaki - thank you for putting it easily in so few words. You're absolutely correct.

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Very welcome Sometimes a few words is all that is needed But as you know, I do sometimes speak long parts too and maybe we not always agree on different things, but know that i respect you for your views and knowledge too

A Vestigial Mote said:

Maybe try working out?

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Thank you, I agree, my weights are in front of me in my room, so generally do.

In my opinion.

wizanda said:

My original birth certificate name is Alexander Elliott like in the film, 'The Kid who would be king', which is an analogy about the Messiah...

I've been called since birth Zanda or Zan for short, and have always spelled it this way.... God told me at 4-5 years old my name is in the religions, and not to spell it differently.

Zander is a fish, a cross between a perch and pike. <>< like the Christian (Xian) symbol.

My parents still don't study my name.

Sorry will explain the Wikipedia pages:

Lord Brahma is Yahavah in Hebrew; both can mean Lord of Creation. - The books are One.

Brahma's son is Sanananda.

Yahavah (Lord of Creation) becomes Yehoshua (Lord who Saves). - All of the Bible is One.

Yeshua (Salvation) is a son of God, and a son of God is Sananda (Ever Lasting Bliss). - That our name unites the religions as One.

Theosophist prophetically knew the new name, and obviously I was born with it, and told it is sacred which if you look at the links in the OP, there are tons of references across the world's religions.

In my opinion.

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Not strange that you been called Zander, or Zan for short when your name is Alexander, people around you when you were a kid, made a shorter version of your birth name. That is a very common practice around the world. And there is no eveidence (except for what you say your self) that Alexaner, Zander, Zan has anything to do with Messiah )

It looks more to be a thought you had as a kid, or something you read, that made you believe you are a messiah.

Amanaki said:

Very welcome Sometimes a few words is all that is needed But as you know, I do sometimes speak long parts too and maybe we not always agree on different things, but know that i respect you for your views and knowledge too

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And I heavily respect you for your apparently unwavering kindness, calm and forthrightness. I can tell you have great character @Amanaki.

Amanaki said:

One reason why His words come out so distorted is the mixing over every religious text into one lump of his own understanding of the truth.

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From a theosophical perspective they study all the religions as branches of a tree, I'm not out there in what is being stated from textual contexts, you're just limited in study.

There is only one ultimate truth reality stems from; since I've come from it as prophesied, some of the knowledge from there, explains what religious texts dream about (Sat Chit Ananda).

Amanaki said:

And what he said is not anything of how Jesus would have been doing his teaching.

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I unconditionally love you, you're funny, I've made up so many parables in our conversations; maybe stop trying to win points, and see if you can grow on top of what has been said.

In my opinion.

A Vestigial Mote said:

And I heavily respect you for your apparently unwavering kindness, calm and forthrightness. I can tell you have great character @Amanaki.

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Thank you I know my limitation, but sometimes I get carried away and wish to share a tiny bit too much. and then people misunderstand my words But I am still learning, just like everyone in this forum does

wizanda said:

From a theosophical perspective they study all the religions as branches of a tree, I'm not out there in what is being stated from textual contexts, you're just limited in study.

There is only one ultimate truth reality stems from; since I've come from it as prophesied, some of the knowledge from there, explains what religious texts dream about (Sat Chit Ananda).

I unconditionally love you, you're funny, I've made up so many parables in our conversations; maybe stop trying to win points, and see if you can grow on top of what has been said.

In my opinion.

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When I see the truth in your words, i am not afraid to take it with me on my own path here in life. But when I see you mixing and misuse words of great spiritual teachers, then I have no choice to try to give a truthful answer to what I see.
I am not out to win points, or win any contest of being best or most wise, those things I put away a long time ago.
What surprises me about your claim to be Messiah, is that you come up with a huge amount of names that could slightly be used into something that looks like your name fit in a spiritual text.
Did the real Messiah do that? No, he did not. and one other thing, the true messiah warned humanity about false messiah at the end of time. (dharma ending period as Buddhist call it).
Just today from study the claim you holding of being Messiah, I found that just the last years there have been 10 people(maybe more) who claim to be Messiah. Why should you be different?

Here is a list of all the people who have claimed to be Messiah though time since the real messiah was on earth.
I do not like to use Wikipedia as a source but i know you like it, so here it is.
List of messiah claimants - Wikipedia

Amanaki said:

Not strange that you been called Zander, or Zan for short when your name is Alexander, people around you when you were a kid, made a shorter version of your birth name. That is a very common practice around the world. And there is no eveidence (except for what you say your self) that Alexaner, Zander, Zan has anything to do with Messiah )

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Theosophy says the new name of Christ is Sananda; Judaism says the name of one of the Archangels is Sandalphon.

Thus in Revelation 3:12 the names are summarized by the data; Sandalphon is a pillar between heaven and earth.

Zion (ציון) is used symbolic as the name of David's flock or place (2 Samuel 5:7); Zan (צאן) in Hebrew is the Flock of Israel.

The symbolic name of the Messiah in many places in the Tanakh is Zion, out of Zion shall go my Law (Isaiah 2:3).

I've specifically known to keep my nick name as my official name as God told me, and you say, no it isn't that reason, as you know better how it happened.

Amanaki said:

It looks more to be a thought you had as a kid, or something you read, that made you believe you are a messiah.

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As a 4-5 year old I had a couple of child copies of the Bible, I'd sit and cross reference up to the New Testament then stop, as I knew it was corrupted...

At 5-6 when hearing that jesus was God because of "I Am" statements, realized straight away Yeshua didn't say that, and remembered the differences; yet needed textual verification.

Was specifically told at 5-6, that I'd go over the Bible with a big magnifying glass (Esword), and bring it to the world's attention of the error at 25, which have done as expected...

Amanaki said:

Did the real Messiah do that? No, he did not.

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People are arguing (Islam Vs Judaisism Vs Christianity) because of lack of knowledge on the name references about Yeshua, with a Bible word search this can be fixed objectively.

H3444 (Yeshua) + H1961 (To become) = Exodus 15:2, Psalms 118:14-21, Isaiah 12:2 (2 Samuel 10:11 David Vs Ammon) +5 Verses Isaiah

H3444 (Yeshua) + H7200 (To see) = Exodus 14:13, Psalms 98:3, Isaiah 52:10 (2 Chronicles 20:17 Jehoshaphat Vs Ammon)

Amanaki said:

Why should you be different?

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Data.

In my opinion.

wizanda said:

Theosophy says the new name of Christ is Sananda; Judaism says the name of one of the Archangels is Sandalphon.

Thus in Revelation 3:12 the names are summarized by the data; Sandalphon is a pillar between heaven and earth.

Zion (ציון) is used symbolic as the name of David's flock or place (2Samuel 5:7); Zan (צאן) in Hebrew is the Flock of Israel.

The symbolic name of the Messiah in many places in the Tanakh is Zion, out of Zion shall go my Law (Isaiah 2:3).

I've specifically known to keep my nick name as my official name as God told me, and you say, no it isn't that reason, as you know better how it happened.

As a 4-5 year old I had a couple of child copies of the Bible, I'd sit and cross reference up to the New Testament then stop, as I knew it was corrupted...

At 5-6 when hearing that jesus was God because of "I Am" statements, realized straight away Yeshua didn't say that, and remembered the differences; yet needed textual verification.

Was specifically told at 5-6, that I'd go over the Bible with a big magnifying glass (Esword), and bring it to the world's attention of the error at 25, which have done as expected...

People are arguing (Islam Vs Judaisism Vs Christianity) because of lack of knowledge on the name references about Yeshua, with a Bible word search this can be fixed objectively.

H3444 (Yeshua) + H1961 (To become) = Exodus 15:2, Psalms 118:14-21, Isaiah 12:2 (2 Samuel 10:11 David Vs Ammon) +5 Verses Isaiah

H3444 (Yeshua) + H7200 (To see) = Exodus 14:13, Psalms 98:3, Isaiah 52:10 (2 Chronicles 20:17 Jehoshaphat Vs Ammon)

Data.

In my opinion.

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You just keep repeating yourself over and over again.
Do you not think the other people who claimed to be Messiah did like you? finding different things in the bible that looked like their name was giving clue to that they were the true messiah? And they were refused time and time again, because people could see that No they were not Messiah talked about in the bible.
You using texts from Hindu teaching to "prove" that the names in the bible are the clue to your name? Do you think the writers of the Hindu texts (of what is written down of Hindu teaching) foresaw that Christianity in a totally different part of the world would the true messiah (Jesus) first about 2020 years ago, then suddenly now a new person claiming to be the second coming? so they added names that could look like names that could be translated into something like Wizanda?

How can you know it was God or some other heavenly beings who told you this story when you were a kid, and not a demon who wanted to fool you? Demons are known to fool human beings and it has been written about it in religious texts many many years

Amanaki said:

You just keep repeating yourself over and over again.

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Sorry if I do, just trying to make sure things are clarified in each answer to be full.

Amanaki said:

Do you not think the other people who claimed to be Messiah did like you? finding different things in the bible that looked like their name was giving clue to that they were the true messiah? And they were refused time and time again, because people could see that No they were not Messiah talked about in the bible.

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As saying people have argued Islam Vs Judaism Vs Christianity since the Dawn of time, and according to the text I come before Time Ends...

Where we just keep the Saints; if people don't want to understand that is entirely their choice.

Like I can show how David prophesied himself as Yeshua, and how that prophecy was full proof, people are just lousy at exegesis.

Plus people argue to debunk, not understand.

Amanaki said:

You using texts from Hindu teaching to "prove" that the names in the bible are the clue to your name?

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I'll find a better way to show Sananda Biblically.... Zan is only a start.

If Yahavah means Lord Brahma, and it is a later tradition, there is only one context.

Amanaki said:

Do you think the writers of the Hindu texts (of what is written down of Hindu teaching) foresaw that Christianity in a totally different part of the world would the true messiah

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Yes they do relate this, in the Kalki Purana the rider on the White Horse is an avatar in white skin, Kalki...

Kalki is the 25th incarnation of Vishnu from Shambhala (Place of Peace), sent to vanquish the Adhamic behaviour, and bring in Satya Yuga.

In Revelation there are 24 Elders, and the Lamb is the 25th, who comes on a white horse from a place of peace (New Jerusalem) to vanquish the sinful behaviour, and bring in the Messianic Age.

Same name can be shown in both prophecies... Skanda in the Bhagavad Gita is said to be the person coming to fight the Sinful behaviour; Kalki is only a place holder which means at the end of time, not necessarily a name of someone.

Amanaki said:

so they added names that could look like names that could be translated into something like Wizanda?

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Wizanda is a parody, I couldn't get Zanda as an email, so I put WWW . I . Zanda... It makes it sound like a Wizard, which makes Christians & Muhammadans miss it is the new name of Christ.

Amanaki said:

How can you know it was God or some other heavenly beings who told you this story when you were a kid, and not a demon who wanted to fool you?

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Because the data is consistent with all the world's religious texts.

Amanaki said:

Demons are known to fool human beings and it has been written about it in religious texts many many years

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Light doesn't need to be scared of darkness.

In my opinion.

@wizanda ,

Slightly off-topic: While you were cross referencing world religions, did you find any other apparent edits/errors in other religious texts besides the Old Testament?

I'm actually the messiah.

dybmh said:

While you were cross referencing world religions, did you find any other apparent edits/errors in other religious texts besides the Old Testament?

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Yeah loads, posted many on the Religious Forums... One of the biggest is Hell is below earth, and everyone is in a state of denial in modern times that we're mortals.

Next is that Buddha, Yeshua, Lao Tzu, Krishna, etc taught selflessness, and because Atman, Psyche, Nephesh mean self, soul, and life, and all come from the root breath, the world is now full of its self instead.

Thus the contradiction I was told about the Bible, that the "I Am" statements are false also apply to the other religious texts, and all the "I Am" idolators are about to be removed in a day (Isaiah 47:8-10), as Source has no ego.

In my opinion.

Father Heathen said:

I'm actually the messiah.

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In Monty Pythons opinion.

wizanda said:

If Yahavah means Lord Brahma, and it is a later tradition, there is only one context.

In my opinion.

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If you truly were Messiah, you would know that Yahavah means He is and it is only another way (3rd person) of the Hebrew name Yahweh, And Yahweh means Lord. In Hebrew. It has nothing to do with Hindu texts at all because you find all you need to know in Hebrew texts.

Sanda. The name Sanda doesn't mean anything; it's just a way in which Alexandra got shortened throughout time.

Zanda. This name derives from the Ancient Greek name “Aléxandros

So you see your Name Alexander is all there is to it. the other names are just an acronym of Alexander

Amanaki said:

If you truly were Messiah, you would know that Yahavah means He is and it is only another way (3rd person) of the Hebrew name Yahweh, And Yahweh means Lord. I

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H3068 Yahavah most don't know how to pronounce it, and generally it is put YHWH now...

So the system of pronunciation is mine, based on ancient transcendental practises such as the deeper meanings of 'Om Namah Shiva (▼▲) Ya' is the same Vah (▼▲) Yah in my understanding of things.

Also been told off for blasphemy on mistranslations that are commonly used, such Yahweh, Jehovah, etc.

The meaning is H3050 is Yah, where we can show it is used independently in names as Lord, and where we can show its usage of it being compared who is a strong Lord (Yah) to Yahavah (Psalms 89:8)...

Thus in Psalms 89:9 Yah, can not be Yahavah in that sentence.

Havah (H1961) means to become, to make manifest...

What was stated to Moses 'I Am that I am', actually says 'Ahayah Asher Ahayah' (Exodus 3:14), which means 'Shall be, what Shall Be'...

In other words the force of the Source of reality is the breath of life; the ultimate Source of reality, so if it says it happens, it becomes manifest.

Havah is the same root from Hebrew, as the word Brahma from Sanskrit.

Amanaki said:

Yahweh means Lord.

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Yahweh means Lord of Destruction.

Yahavah means Lord who makes Manifest or Lord of Creation.

Amanaki said:

Sanda. The name Sanda doesn't mean anything

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Please.

Sandalphon is the name of an Archangel in Judaism; the name exist from Judaism for a reason:

The Sandek is the person who helps circumcises people into the House of God, and Phon is used in Archangel in Ezekiel 1:16 - 'wheel = arch' H212.

Amanaki said:

So you see your Name Alexander is all there is to it.

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Alexander means 'Helper of man'.

Nothing happens by chance; we're in the Matrix - Wake up Neo!

In my opinion.

Father Heathen said:

I'm actually the messiah.

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Don't lie , we all know that Kirk Douglas is the M.....ooh wrong thread...my bad

wizanda said:

H3068 Yahavah most don't know how to pronounce it, and generally it is put YHWH now...

So the system of pronunciation is mine, based on ancient transcendental practises such as the deeper meanings of 'Om Namah Shiva (▼▲) Ya' is the same Vah (▼▲) Yah in my understanding of things.

Also been told off for blasphemy on mistranslations that are commonly used, such Yahweh, Jehovah, etc.

The meaning is H3050 is Yah, where we can show it is used independently in names as Lord, and where we can show its usage of it being compared who is a strong Lord (Yah) to Yahavah (Psalms 89:8)...

Thus in Psalms 89:9 Yah, can not be Yahavah in that sentence.

Havah (H1961) means to become, to make manifest...

What was stated to Moses 'I Am that I am', actually says 'Ahayah Asher Ahayah' (Exodus 3:14), which means 'Shall be, what Shall Be'...

In other words the force of the Source of reality is the breath of life; the ultimate Source of reality, so if it says it happens, it becomes manifest.

Havah is the same root from Hebrew, as the word Brahma from Sanskrit.

Yahweh means Lord of Destruction.

Yahavah means Lord who makes Manifest or Lord of Creation.

Please.

Sandalphon is the name of an Archangel in Judaism, the name exist from Judaism for a reason:

The Sandek is the person who circumcises people into the House of God, and Phon is used in Archangel in Ezekiel 1:16 - 'wheel = arch' H212.

Alexander means Helper of man.

Nothing happens by chance; we're in the Matrix - Wake up Neo!

In my opinion.

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I do not want to wake up to your false claims. I can only awake to Buddha Sakyamuni's teaching.

Eve /iːv/ is an English given name for a female, derived from the Latin name Eva, in turn originating with the Hebrew חַוָּה (Chavah/Havah – chavah, to breathe, and chayah, to live, or to give life). The traditional meaning of Eve is "living".

Brahma in Hindu teaching have many meanings. not just one.

Sign of Messiah 2nd comming.

Ten Signs of Messiah’s Return | Congregation Shema Yisrael

Sign # 1 False Prophets and Messiahs

And Yeshua began to say to them, “See to it that no one misleads you. Many will come in My name, saying, ‘I am He!’ and will mislead many.” (Mark 13:5-6)

Sign #2 Increase in Wars

When you hear of wars and rumors of wars, do not be frightened; those things must take place; but that is not yet the end. For nation will rise up against nation, and kingdom against kingdom. (Mark 13:7-8a)

Sign #3 Earthquakes and Famines

There will be earthquakes in various places; there will also be famines. (Mark 13:8b)

Signs #4-5 Persecution and the Advancement of the Good News

But be on your guard; for they will deliver you to the courts, and you will be flogged in the synagogues, and you will stand before governors and kings for My sake, as a testimony to them. The Good News must first be preached to all the nations. When they arrest you and hand you over, do not worry beforehand about what you are to say, but say whatever is given you in that hour; for it is not you who speak, but it is the Holy Spirit. Brother will betray brother to death, and a father his child; and children will rise up against parents and have them put to death. You will be hated by all because of My name, but the one who endures to the end, he will be saved (Mark 13:9-13).

Signs #6, 7, 8, 9 Anti-Christ, the Temple, Israel’s Restoration, and Anti-Semitism

But when you see the Abomination of Desolation standing where it should not be (let the reader understand), then those who are in Judea must flee to the mountains. The one who is on the housetop must not go down, or go in to get anything out of his house; and the one who is in the field must not turn back to get his coat. But woe to those who are pregnant and to those who are nursing babies in those days! But pray that it may not happen in the winter. (Mark 13:14-18)

Sign #10 World-wide Destruction

For those days will be a time of tribulation such as has not occurred since the beginning of the creation which God created until now, and never will. Unless the Lord had shortened those days, no life would have been saved; but for the sake of the elect, whom He chose, He shortened the days. (Mark 13:19-20)

And then if anyone says to you, “Behold, here is the Messiah”; or, “Behold, He is there”; do not believe him; for false messiahs and false prophets will arise, and will show signs and wonders, in order to lead astray, if possible, the elect. But take heed; behold, I have told you everything in advance. (Mark 13:21-23)

But in those days, after that tribulation, the sun will be darkened and the moon will not give its light, and the stars will be falling from heaven, and the powers that are in the heavens will be shaken. Then they will see the Son of Man coming in clouds with great power and glory. And then He will send forth the angels, and will gather together His elect from the four winds, from the farthest end of the earth to the farthest end of heaven. (Mark 13:24-25)