Which means a religion, -to be considered one by the state- must found itself upon ethical pillars. Satanism has nothing ethical.
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"If Knoxville Kids Skip Class for Bible Study, Satanists Want in on the Action"
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Which means a religion, -to be considered one by the state- must found itself upon ethical pillars. Satanism has nothing ethical.
Father Heathen
Veteran Member
Pay attention, kid.
The "Satanic Children’s Ministry" is independent and not affiliated with the Church of Satan, who in turn certainly doesn't represent all satanists. There are many different groups, similar to how there are different christian denominations. You have access to google and wikipedia, so know the basics before you babble.
And of course the group is made up; that's no secret, nor is it relevant, because regardless if the school doesn't allow them equal access then they'll be violating the constitution. As we've already established that's the whole point. This is about upholding the constitution, not attacking christianity.
Altfish
Veteran Member
From Wikipedia...
"After School Satan Clubs "incorporate games, projects, and thinking exercises that help children understand how we know what we know about our world and our universe." Satanic Temple spokesman Finn Rezz said the club "would focus on science and rational thinking," promoting "benevolence and empathy for everybody" – while providing an alternative voice to the Bible-centred "Good News Club". After School Satan Clubs do not teach children to believe in supernatural beings named Satan or perform Satanic rituals."
After School Satan - Wikipedia
Father Heathen
Veteran Member
Have you even studied it? Bearing false witness is unethical.
Altfish
Veteran Member
I would disagree, their 7 Tenets wipe the floor with the 10 Commandments ...
- One should strive to act with compassion and empathy toward all creatures in accordance with reason.
- The struggle for justice is an ongoing and necessary pursuit that should prevail over laws and institutions.
- One’s body is inviolable, subject to one’s own will alone.
- The freedoms of others should be respected, including the freedom to offend. To willfully and unjustly encroach upon the freedoms of another is to forgo one's own.
- Beliefs should conform to one's best scientific understanding of the world. One should take care never to distort scientific facts to fit one's beliefs.
- People are fallible. If one makes a mistake, one should do one's best to rectify it and resolve any harm that might have been caused.
- Every tenet is a guiding principle designed to inspire nobility in action and thought. The spirit of compassion, wisdom, and justice should always prevail over the written or spoken word.
- Liink Tenets
Father Heathen
Veteran Member
That program is associated with The Satanic Temple, who are very involved in constitutional activism. Not sure if it's the same as mentioned in OP which the article says is independent.
The Church of Satan has stated that they are nonpolitical and avoid activism.
Well...in order to be recognized as one, a religion must sign a very inflexible agreement with the Ministry of Interior...Good luck to them
The atheist Church is much more likely to be recognized
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ImmortalFlame
Woke gremlin
They are already an officially recognized religion:
The US government just officially recognized the Satanic Temple as a religion
Charity Navigator - Unrated Profile for Lilith Grotto Church Inc. of the Church of Satan
I'm not sure why they would have to leave school early, though. Why can't they wait until after school to have religious instruction?
But either way, if they're going to let these kids leave an hour early one day out of the month, why not just allow it for all students? On that day, everyone leaves an hour early, regardless of the reason. They can have religious instruction in whatever religion they choose, or they can just do whatever. As long as everyone is treated the same, I can't see there would be any problems.
I was speaking of my country
ImmortalFlame
Woke gremlin
Oh, I see. Not too sure of the CoS's activities in Italy and I can't find much to suggest they really exist there.
Ah, Skwim, my admiration for your energy and wit is boundless!
Yes, if one religion is good enough to get special treatment, then all are.
And nice of the Satanists to step up and make the point now the Pastafarians have been rolled.
Salvador
RF's Swedenborgian
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There is an adequate amount of text with Bible studying being helpful towards reading comprehension. Also, Bible studying may capture a student's interest with learning foreign languages such as Hebrew or Greek. However, as far as I know, there is an insufficient amount of text with Satanism in order to be of much use to help with a student's reading comprehension. Also, there is no foreign language in Satanism that'd capture a student's interest with learning any foreign language. Therefore, I support Bible studying to further a student's education. I find Satanism would not be as useful in furthering a student's education.
There is an adequate amount of text with Bible studying being helpful towards reading comprehension. Also, Bible studying may capture a student's interest with learning foreign languages such as Hebrew or Greek. However, as far as I know, there is an insufficient amount of text with Satanism in order to be of much use to help with a student's reading comprehension. Also, there is no foreign language in Satanism that'd capture a student's interest with learning any foreign language. Therefore, I support Bible studying to further a student's education. I find Satanism would not be as useful in furthering a student's education.
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Salvador
RF's Swedenborgian
I doubt there'd be enough interest in a heavily Christian dominated area like Tennessee for a detailed studying Islam or the Koran. I suppose if there were enough interest with that, then that'd be fine by me for students to learn about Islam and the Koran. If I taught Islam, my students would realize that Islam is very sexist and homophobic as well as being an ideology disguised as religion.
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Erebus
Well-Known Member
Guys, we're neglecting the most important part of all this. They made Baphomet adorable!
Okay, serious face on.
I personally feel that the programme should be scrapped. It strikes me as blatant favouritism for Christianity and I'm concerned that kids of other religions might be targeted should the programme expand beyond Christianity. Simply put, I just don't trust the people who came up with this programme to act in good faith.
Okay, serious face on.
I personally feel that the programme should be scrapped. It strikes me as blatant favouritism for Christianity and I'm concerned that kids of other religions might be targeted should the programme expand beyond Christianity. Simply put, I just don't trust the people who came up with this programme to act in good faith.
HonestJoe
Well-Known Member
You mean like this?
Can Knox County kids skip school for Bible study? It's happening at Sterchi Elementary
Also, are you aware that this is an evangelical church, not a Catholic one? Your beliefs would probably be no more welcome there than mine.
Subduction Zone
Veteran Member
You are conflating two different ideas altogether. The Christian after school program was just made up as well. The same claim applies to it. Try again and see if you can form a question about the same sort of concepts.
Salvador
RF's Swedenborgian
As far as I know, there is sufficient Biblical text for studying as well as interest in studying scripture. However, there might not be an adequate amount scripture, reading text, or as much interest involved with the study of Satanism.
Subduction Zone
Veteran Member
So you are arguing for completely dumping the program. But it could be rescued. Satanism may not have the an edge in regards to literature, but Satanism beats Christianity from a science perspective. They are not afraid of reality.
sealchan
Well-Known Member
Should be quickly accepted...probably will stir up more controversy than fairness would allow.