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Why so angry? :)

Altfish

Veteran Member
Even when you do not harm others, or speak back to them, you suffer as long you hold the anger within you. Often it is a sign that once Ego speaks and until Ego is satisfied the anger lingers in the mind.
So, let's say your daughter has been molested by a pedophile.
Do you expect me to believe that you are not angry?
 

nPeace

Veteran Member
Read my post again - especially the bit about "How you control your anger" - I can be angry and do nothing.
Not that that is always the best approach.
I think what @Amanaki is trying to emphasize is the letting go of anger.. which I can see, why that is a good thing to consider.
So, in other words, losing the nature that some hold on to, and make excuses not to let go... because it allows them to release it when they want to, and upon whom they want to. Ego.
 

A Vestigial Mote

Well-Known Member
What is there to be angry about?
Human trafficking.
The ongoing ruination of the Earth's ecosystems.
Those that focus on profit over human lives and livelihood.
Countries whose practices and policies routinely include violations of basic human rights.
Anger arises from within your thoughts, not from what others may do toward you.
Simple question here. Where do you think we'd be on the issue of "slavery" IF NO ONE HAD GOTTEN ANGRY ABOUT IT? The answer should show you that anger toward the appropriate purpose can be a valuable tool.

People who are hyperbolic about these types of things - like "don't EVER insult" or "don't EVER get angry" are completely missing the bigger picture. I don't feel they've thought through their statements at all. They just prize the pie-in-the-sky, "everybody just love each other" surreality over actual reality.
 

Altfish

Veteran Member
Even when you do not harm others, or speak back to them, you suffer as long you hold the anger within you. Often it is a sign that once Ego speaks and until Ego is satisfied the anger lingers in the mind.
In your opinion. But I do not suffer when I'm angry, it is a normal reaction and the need to vent anger is normal.
Deny it or suppress it at your peril.
 

Spirit of Light

Be who ever you want
So, let's say your daughter has been molested by a pedophile.
Do you expect me to believe that you are not angry?
What you expect or not is your expectation. No matter how angry one should be, it would not take away that the action was done. It has already happened. it is in the past.
The person who does it would get his punishment by the judge and police.

If it happens to a person that they are raped or molested as you called it, one should give all the attention to this person, and give compassion love and care. But that can not take away what did happen in the past. One can only make sure it can not happen again.
 

Altfish

Veteran Member
What you expect or not is your expectation. No matter how angry one should be, it would not take away that the action was done. It has already happened. it is in the past.
The person who does it would get his punishment by the judge and police.

If it happens to a person that they are raped or molested as you called it, one should give all the attention to this person, and give compassion love and care. But that can not take away what did happen in the past. One can only make sure it can not happen again.
But it is usually someone's anger that flags it to the police and starts the judicial process.

Why do you believe that people can only hold one emotion at a time? I can show anger to the perpetrator and compassion to the victim; despite being male I can occasionally multi-task
 

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
Why do you hold on to the anger that arises within you?

The clue to the answer lay within the question.

There is much to be angry about. Much of which continues and will continue. Simply accepting the terrible things being done that effect your life, the lives of billions of other adults and more especially, the avoidable mess that children will inherit is a poor reflection on humanity.
 

Spirit of Light

Be who ever you want
Simple question here. Where do you think we'd be on the issue of "slavery" IF NO ONE HAD GOTTEN ANGRY ABOUT IT? The answer should show you that anger toward the appropriate purpose can be a valuable tool.
When being angry, does it help to clear the mind, and make you see a clear answer to how to solve a problem? No, it only makes a person do non-rational action, words or thoughts toward others.
All issues can be solved with a calm mind (with no hate or anger)
But as soon Anger or hate becomes a part of it, it creates more suffering in other areas then what one wanted to fix in the first place.
A peaceful mind solves the problem from within. and one see clearly why the situation is as it is (not always what one wish it to be) But life is not always happy, one do experience suffering as human beings. But letting go of the anger toward others helps calm the mind.
 

Spirit of Light

Be who ever you want
But it is usually someone's anger that flags it to the police and starts the judicial process.

Why do you believe that people can only hold one emotion at a time? I can show anger to the perpetrator and compassion to the victim; despite being male I can occasionally multi-task
Would it not be better to always carry compassion within you, no matter what happened? To not be someone who judges others but looks after once own mind?
The perpetrator has also a lot of suffering going on his/her life, they might need compassion toward them too.

It is the wrong action one can condemn or get angry at.
The person who does evil deeds is also suffering. So we should have compassion for every living being.

This is what was meant with this thread.
 

sealchan

Well-Known Member
Why do you hold on to the anger that arises within you?

The clue to the answer lay within the question.

Feel the hate flowing through you...or something like that. Good ol' Sith sentiments. Probably an instinctual mechanism when ones fear produces a fight response.

Knowledge is the key to reducing this sort of thing where it is an over response to a non threatening situation.
 

nPeace

Veteran Member
Would it not be better to always carry compassion within you, no matter what happened? To not be someone who judges others but looks after once own mind?
The perpetrator has also a lot of suffering going on his/her life, they might need compassion toward them too.

It is the wrong action one can condemn or get angry at.
The person who does evil deeds is also suffering. So we should have compassion for every living being.

This is what was meant with this thread.
Not everyone will see this, or be able to understand it, because you are saying things of spirit. Only those connected to that spirit will understand. If we listen to the spirit, then we will let that spirit lead us, but it requires us letting go of the ego.
Again, it's back at our thoughts.
 

Laika

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
Justice of what? Poice and Judges in court is the one who can legally say if something is justified.
But when seeing the cause(why did they attack in the firt place) of the attack, the result may look differently

If I am to suppose that justice is an illusion because it the product of the police and judges, why would a moral prohibition against expressing anger be any more real or less of an illusion? Would it not also follow that condemnation of anger as a response to a situation is also a man-made illusion?

Why should one take precedence over the other? o_O
 

Altfish

Veteran Member
Would it not be better to always carry compassion within you, no matter what happened? To not be someone who judges others but looks after once own mind?
The perpetrator has also a lot of suffering going on his/her life, they might need compassion toward them too.

It is the wrong action one can condemn or get angry at.
The person who does evil deeds is also suffering. So we should have compassion for every living being.

This is what was meant with this thread.
We are on different planets..

I'm now off to a funeral of a very good friend; I am angry that she has been taken so young. Is that wrong? (PS she was an atheist, it's a Humanist funeral, so please none of this "She's going to a better place")
 

Spirit of Light

Be who ever you want
If I am to suppose that justice is an illusion because it the product of the police and judges, why would a moral prohibition against expressing anger be any more real or less of an illusion? Would it not also follow that condemnation of anger as a response to a situation is also a man-made illusion?

Why should one take precedence over the other? o_O
Anger is only an attachment to action, words or thoughts done in the past. It is in the past so no need to hold on to it.

maybe people are living to much in the past or future, but not in the present moment?
 

Laika

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
We are on different planets..

I'm now off to a funeral of a very good friend; I am angry that she has been taken so young. Is that wrong? (PS she was an atheist, it's a Humanist funeral, so please none of this "She's going to a better place")

My condolences. This is sad news. :( I hope it is a respectful service and it honours her memory. :heart:
 

Laika

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
Anger is only an attachment to action, words or thoughts done in the past. It is in the past so no need to hold on to it.

maybe people are living to much in the past or future, but not in the present moment?

So, if we are to dismiss our “attachment” the past and the future, what is left for us to base our decisions upon?
 

A Vestigial Mote

Well-Known Member
When being angry, does it help to clear the mind, and make you see a clear answer to how to solve a problem? No, it only makes a person do non-rational action, words or thoughts toward others.
All issues can be solved with a calm mind (with no hate or anger)
But as soon Anger or hate becomes a part of it, it creates more suffering in other areas then what one wanted to fix in the first place.
A peaceful mind solves the problem from within. and one see clearly why the situation is as it is (not always what one wish it to be) But life is not always happy, one do experience suffering as human beings. But letting go of the anger toward others helps calm the mind.
This is simply not true.

One can be angry about something and yet be calm, rational and composed. If you can't, then THAT is your problem. Not anger. Your lack of self control.
 

Spirit of Light

Be who ever you want
So, if we are to dismiss our “attachment” the past and the future, what is left for us to base our decisions upon?
The here and now, the present moment.

Every single experience we encounter in life has a different outcome, so even you could say, well, use the experience from past, Yes you can do so :) But it is still only this moment in time that counts.
What happen in the past has already happend, so when encounter a situation in the present moment it is how we react now that will give answer to the outcome from your action, words or thoughts.

A saying goes like this: What you do right now lay the foundation of what you experience tomorrow.
 
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