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There is a Challenge to Christians!

ImmortalFlame

Woke gremlin
I mentioned the location. How else did you find it?
Using the quote function, which is what is required by forum rules. It's not hard. In fact, it's much easier than taking a screenshot and posting it.

So, the question is, why did you take a screenshot rather than linking to the original post?

Because the obvious answer is that you wanted to deliberately misrepresent the post and remove the context.
 

Kenny

Face to face with my Father
Premium Member
Using the quote function, which is what is required by forum rules. It's not hard. In fact, it's much easier than taking a screenshot and posting it.

So, the question is, why did you take a screenshot rather than linking to the original post?

Because the obvious answer is that you wanted to deliberately misrepresent the post and remove the context.
The picture is a quote function. Whether I didn't do it to your satisfaction is inconsequential. I also directed you to the site. It remains a strawman.
 

ImmortalFlame

Woke gremlin
The picture is a quote function.
No, it isn't.

A quote is a quote function. Like the thing you just did. With the quote buttons, and the ability to click them and be referred to the original post. That's what a quote is, and that's the whole point of the quote function. You cannot click your image and be referred back to where the quote came from, nor do you reference exactly where the quote came from. So you are not using the quote function.

Whether I didn't do it to your satisfaction is inconsequential.
Actually, it's quite consequential, since failing to use the quote function when quoting another poster is against forum rules.

I also directed you to the site.
No, you just named the thread. You didn't use the quote function, which you are required to do, and you avoided linking to the original post.

It remains a strawman.
And you clearly don't understand what a strawman is.

The question remains: Why, when you clearly had knowledge of where the post was made - since you took a picture of it - did you not link the post in the OP and continually refuse to link to it when asked?
 

Kenny

Face to face with my Father
Premium Member
No, it isn't.

A quote is a quote function. Like the thing you just did. With the quote buttons, and the ability to click them and be referred to the original post. That's what a quote is, and that's the whole point of the quote function. You cannot click your image and be referred back to where the quote came from, nor do you reference exactly where the quote came from. So you are not using the quote function.


Actually, it's quite consequential, since failing to use the quote function when quoting another poster is against forum rules.


No, you just named the thread. You didn't use the quote function, which you are required to do, and you avoided linking to the original post.


And you clearly don't understand what a strawman is.

The question remains: Why, when you clearly had knowledge of where the post was made - since you took a picture of it - did you not link the post in the OP and continually refuse to link to it when asked?
Still a strawman. If I didn't follow protocol, it was done with integrity of heart but in ignorance of the same. But your combining of quotes (without telling everyone)... was it done on purpose of mining or was it in the integrity of heart but in ignorance of what you were doing.
 

ImmortalFlame

Woke gremlin
Still a strawman.
Again, you don't understand what a strawman is.

Please refer to the definition of the strawman fallacy, then explain to me exactly how what I'm doing qualifies as a strawman.

If I didn't follow protocol, it was done with integrity of heart but in ignorance of the same.
How does deliberately no referencing where a post came from, and avoiding to provide it when asked, show integrity?

It clearly indicates a lack of integrity.

But your combining of quotes (without telling everyone)... was it done on purpose of mining or was it in the integrity of heart but in ignorance of what you were doing.
Where did I combine quotes?
 

ZenMonkey

St. James VII
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Ok Christians... they say we are soooo different so I am asking the "specifics" to see how different we are. !0 different answers for 10 different Christians, I am told.


Those are like the litmus test common among most if not all. Do you think that Jesus is willing to let any perish ... like the devil? Do you think Jesus meant we should love the devil ... given the devil is our enemy like he stated? Do you think we should forgive the devil or our enemies ... even when they do things we disagree with that don't really harm us?
 

Milton Platt

Well-Known Member
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Ok Christians... they say we are soooo different so I am asking the "specifics" to see how different we are. !0 different answers for 10 different Christians, I am told.

I doubt all denominations are represented here. And there is a lot more baggage than just these four questions.
I doubt these are the things that people say Christians vary most on.
How about asking those who point out there is variation to list some of the variations they actually see?
 
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TransmutingSoul

Veteran Member
Premium Member
I doubt all denominations are represented here. And there is a lot more baggage than just these four questions.
I doubt these are the things that people say Christians vary most on.
How about asking those who point out there is variation to list some of the variations they actually see?

The key may be in the decsicion of which church to choose.

What originally founded those new branches were brought about because people saw the need to change and they become the fundamental differences.

In this day it can be mostly seen they should have never happened and again if one's sees they did need to happen, then that again would be based on a fundamental difference of opinion or Interpretation.

Regards Tony
 

Samantha Rinne

Resident Genderfluid Writer/Artist
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Ok Christians... they say we are soooo different so I am asking the "specifics" to see how different we are. !0 different answers for 10 different Christians, I am told.

There is some variance (I believe Jesus already came again, some denominations believe there is a specific due date for Jesus coming). But you've hit on the core of Christian beliefs.
 

The Anointed

Well-Known Member
There is some variance (I believe Jesus already came again, some denominations believe there is a specific due date for Jesus coming). But you've hit on the core of Christian beliefs.

It was the prophet Zephaniah through whom the Lord said; "I am going to destroy everything 'ON EARTH', All human beings and animals, birds and fish. I will bring about the downfall of the wicked. I will destroy mankind and no survivors will be left. I the Lord have spoken. . . . . . . . . "On the day when the Lord shows his fury, not even all their gold and silver will save them. The whole 'EARTH' will be destroyed by the fire of his anger. He will put an end----a sudden end----to everyone who lives 'ON EARTH.' " GNB.

The weekly Sabbath, said Paul, in Colossians 2: 17; was but a shadow of the reality in the future, which is the Great Sabbath, the Lords day of one thousand years.

From the Book of Jubilees 4: 30; "And He (Adam) lacked seventy years of one thousand years; for one thousand years are as one day in the testimony of the heavens and therefore was it written concerning the tree of knowledge: "On the day thou eat thereof ye shall die." For this reason, Adam did not complete the years of that first day; for He died during it." Adam died at the age of 930 in the first day.

We are now approaching the close of the 6th day and the beginning of the 7th, which is the great Sabbath, “The Day of The Lord” the seventh period of one thousand years from the day that Adam ate of the forbidden fruit and died in that first day at the age of 930, which day begins after the greatest period of tribulation that this world has ever seen.

Acts 17: 31; For the Lord has fixed a day in which he shall judge the whole world with Justice by means of a MAN he has CHOSEN. He has given proof of this to everyone by raising that MAN from death.

This coming period of tribulation is said to be so severe, that if it were not for the intervention of the Lord, no flesh would survive. We are almost at the close of the sixth day, and soon comes the great tribulation, which is the war to end all wars, after which the Sabbath will dawn, but when? Nobody knows the exact date.

One of the worst tribulations that the earth has suffered in recent times occurred some 75,000 years ago with the Toba super eruption, which was a super volcanic eruption that occurred sometime between 69,000 and 77,000 years ago at Lake Toba (Sumatra Indonesia). It is recognised as one of earth’s largest eruptions.

Thousands of cubic kilometres of material would have been blasted out into the stratosphere blocking out the light all over the world, turning the sun and moon into huge blood red orbs and causing the earth’s temperature to drop some 21% and it would possibly have been a thousand years, before rainbows could form in our atmosphere again.

The related catastrophe theory holds that this event plunged the planet into a 6 to 10 year volcanic winter and possibly an additional 1,000 year cooling episode. This change in temperature resulted in the world’s proto-human population being reduced to 10,000 or even a mere 1,000 breeding pairs, creating a bottleneck in human evolution.

Could an eruption such as this, be more of a blessing, than a curse, could a protective shield around the earth to protect us from increased heavenly radiation for a period of time, be established, to give us time to prepare for the ultimate end of all physical life forms that remain on this planet, and if so how?

The huge column of molten rock that feeds Yellowstone's "super volcano" dives deeper and fills a magma chamber 20 percent bigger than previous estimates, scientists say. The finding, based on the most detailed model yet of the region's geologic plumbing, suggests that Yellowstone's magma chamber contains even more fuel for a future "super eruption" than anyone had suspected.

The model shows that a 45-mile-wide (72-kilometer-wide) plume of hot, molten rock rises to feed the super volcano from at least 410 miles (660 kilometers) beneath Earth's surface. The deepest part of the plume actually sits beneath the town of Wisdom, Montana, about 150 miles (241 kilometers) from Yellowstone National Park, a steady flow of hot rock in Earth's upper mantle causes the plume to drift to the southeast, where it fills a magma chamber that sits just 3.7 to 10 miles (5.9 to 16 kilometers) beneath Yellowstone.

Other new data show that Yellowstone's magma chamber extends 13 miles (21 kilometers) farther to the northeast than previously thought. Scientists had already known that Yellowstone is a volcanic hot spot, and that within the past two million years, the region has seen three mammoth eruptions at intervals of about 600,000 years, and it is 640,000 years since it’s last eruption. Such events it is said, can produce at least 77 cubic miles (360 cubic kilometers) of basalt: enough to bury Washington, D.C., under nearly 7,200 feet (2,200 meters) of solidified lava.

The ground beneath Yellowstone is said to be 74cm higher today than it was in 1923, which indicates a massive swelling beneath the Park. Scientists believe that the reservoir of Magma is filling at an alarming rate and as that volcano erupts with an average cycle of 600,000 years and the last eruption was more than 640,000 years ago we are overdue for annihilation.

Forget about the death total within the immediate period of the explosive eruption, but just imagine what happens to our communication and ground and air transport systems, fuel supplies, power grids, atomic power stations spewing out radiation into the atmosphere, etc, etc.

What did Jesus say concerning that day? "Pray that your flight be not in winter, (The nuclear/volcanic winter) and woe unto the women who are pregnant in those days, perhaps the evolutionary son of man, came from mutants that are to be born in those days.

Zechariah 14: 6; And it shall come to pass in that day, (The Lord’s Day of one thousand years) that the light shall not be clear or dark: and it shall be one day which shall be known to the Lord, not day, nor night: but it shall come to pass, that evening time it shall be light. On that day there will be neither sunlight nor cold, frosty darkness. On that day living water will flow out from Jerusalem, half of it east to the Dead Sea and half of it west to the Mediterranean Sea, in summer and in winter. The LORD will be king over the whole earth. On that day there will be one LORD, and his name the only name.

Could the Great prophesied war in the Middle East be the trigger to set off the volcano beneath Yellowstone, bringing in a thousand- year period of twilight in which rainbows can't form in our atmosphere? And when, according to Isaiah 65: 20, "If one were to die during that period at the age of 100, they would be but a child.

In that day says Isaiah, the lion will lay down with the sheep and all people will live out their full life span. A hundred-year old person will be considered to be but a child etc.

Revelation 20: 7-9: It is after the thousand year rule of Christ has ended (How long after? Nobody knows.) that the last trumpet will sound and the fire from heaven descends and incinerates the surface of this planet as prophesied by Zephaniah.
 

Shad

Veteran Member
Yes... at one time it produced schism. I think the advent of the printing press and now the internet has eliminated much of it.

Next year we have a county wide event where Presbyterians, Methodists, Pentecostals, Baptists, Assemblies of God, Church of God, Non-denominational and others are all joining together for a major effort, Division is becoming a thing of the past.

Those denominations have a shared history and theology in major views. If there were Orthodox and Catholics which are the typical "bad versions" of Christianity that would mean more. Unless "other" covers that. Protestants have a habit of banding together for a cause while excluding the "conflicting" groups.
 
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