If you had to kill animals on your own in order to continue eating meat, would you continue to be a meat-eater? Why or why not?
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Eating Animals
- Thread starter SalixIncendium
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Poor wording on my part. I've edited to OP. Thanks.
The farm to the store is often quite the disconnect. Anyone who's never been on a farm or better yet, been a farmer, suffers from it. More than the meat disconnect, it could include a ton of other things:
- eggs from inhumane chicken barns
- milk from inhumane dairy
- bananas, coffee, tea, sugar, avocadoes, from cheap indentured labour
- fish from cheap labour, from South Asia
- genetically modified everything
It's good to understand where stuff originates. I was raised on a farm, and only recently did I see chick peas and lentils in a field.
Watching butchering as a kid most likely contributed to all the reasons I became a vegetarian.
Shooting a deer definitely led to returning the gift of a rifle.
It's in clothing too, that disconnect. Much of our clothing remains a product of agriculture. Pollution, worsening soil conditions, and exploited labour are all a problem.
So too with building materials, and in particular wood.
Eliminating disconnect would help with seeing the bigger picture.
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80s fashion girl
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Yes, because I know how they were taken care of. I have raised chickens and butchered myself. They all had lives filled with days on green pasture, clean water always, clean barn/house to roost at night.
One reason I don't raise many chickens for now is: they loved life and trusted me, never expecting that the one who cares for them is the one who is going to kill and eat them. Another reason is I have too many chickens now to let any more hens hatch chicks.
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Guitar's Cry
Disciple of Pan
I grew up hunting, so it would bother me on an emotional level but I could do it for survival.
However, I am perfectly content with plants, fungus, insects, etc. Still life with individual experiences, but less relatable to me.
However, I am perfectly content with plants, fungus, insects, etc. Still life with individual experiences, but less relatable to me.
I don't think I would be capable of killing anything. I would just become vegetarian, which wouldn't bother me much anyway.
My dad grew up on a farm, and much of my extended family were farmers. My dad never became a farmer himself, though. Like many of his generation, he left the farm to get a city job instead. But I've visited family and spent enough time on farms to at least understand what goes on. My uncle had a dairy farm, although I didn't get the sense there was anything "inhumane" about it. I guess it's a judgment call, since I can't imagine the life of a farm animal is particularly "ideal." I had other uncles and cousins who raised hogs.
They weren't cruel people, but let's face it, they were raising animals for human consumption. A case can be made that they should be treated as humanely as possible until the final moment, but humans use whatever resources are available to survive, whether it's animals, wood, etc.
I think the disconnect is not so much in terms that people don't know where their food, clothing, and wood come from, but I think what amazes me about it all is how it all gets distributed, processed, and transported to a vast population. It's the numbers involved that's staggering, in a country of over 300 million and a world of over 7 billion. It seems a monumental task, not just in growing the food, but in transporting and distributing it world-wide. That seems to be the disconnect, since people may not understand that if one or more interdependent variables falls out of place, it could cause the system to break down.
In the final analysis, if people are hungry, they'll take whatever food they can get, even if it's Soylent Green.
I concur on the farming. Some farmers were far more humane towards their livestock than others. That would include attitudes towards horses. Dad was of the humane kind. He could walk amongst his small herd of cattle without fear, even during calving season. The 'our use only' milk cows became gentle creatures. Mom was particularly adept at understanding them for milking. An uncle of mine, OTOH, would beat a cow unnecessarily to take out his anger.
I concur that transportation and networking is totally complex. I worked as a courier driver and had to do pickups at large truck depots. Driving across the midwest of America on interstates, and you'll see thousands of trucks, goods going all directions, appearing to be a mishmash crazy thing, yet it's totally organised. To think you can ship a package from a single address on the east coast to another single address on the west coast on 'next day delivery' is amazing. Most of us are also totally unaware of all the cargo planes that fly at night, unless you know someone who works in the industry.
I was born and raised on a dairy farm. We also kept some stock and fowl for our own use. Yes i have slaughtered a bird or two in my time. I see no problem with is so long as it's humain.
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Well I've already been hunting and raising my own animals for the last few years so, yes!
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Twilight Hue
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I'd likely kill if it was an issue of survival. I'd be selective of my prey though and would endeavor to make clean quick kills.
Luckily we live in a age where killing animals for meat might be a thing of the past.
I'm very interested in culture grown meat for which just one animal can arguably feed thousands if not millions with only a sacrifice
of some its cells that create the meat. That would make the animals are very valuable and incentive to keep it alive. That would be the ideal symbiotic relationship. The cow lives and we can eat it at the same time. ;0)
I'd much prefer people did that than got their meat from grocery stores or other farmers. Would cut down food waste immeasurably. The vast majority of grocery store food, meat included, go bad long before purchase.
Ditto with 'pick your own vegetables, in season, by availability.'
Ditto with 'pick your own vegetables, in season, by availability.'
Kill to eat?
Ya, you betcha!
Ya, you betcha!