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What I seek in a Christian church.

Jonathan Bailey

Well-Known Member
I’m not against the use of lethal force to defend one’s self, I just don’t want the person trying to murder me to have a gun.

In Australia gun murders are significantly below our population size as for the most part only the police have access to guns, and only special police units (according to my understanding) have automatic firearms.

So you would rather be hacked to death with a meat cleaver than stop the perpetrator with a bullet?
 

Spartan

Well-Known Member
1. LBGT affirmed
2. to not condone the state's use of the death penalty
3. acknowledgment that there is a serious overpopulation problem in this world in spite of the clause in the bible "be fruitful and multiply": well, to multiply can mean performing the mathematical act of multiplication and be fruitful can mean be productive, so why not be fruitful by working hard to support the children you unselfishly adopted into your own home and watch the provisions for your adopted children multiply as you work in earnest to earn those means?
4. acceptance of the use of lawful contraceptives
5. acceptance of abortion to save the mother or in cases of rape or incest
6. to embrace stewardship of the earth God created: to frown upon pollution, to be environmentally conscious
7. to not condone warfare except in defense of people or one's nation from the enemies of peace and liberty
8. to encourage the kind and Christian act of adoption of children in need of homes; to discourage making babies purely out of gratification for a selfish ego
9. to condone the use of guns or weapons by citizens for lawful purposes as lawful hunting, lawful shooting sports and lawful personal defense from criminal threats of violence
10. to be very giving and charitable in nature
11. to frown upon hypocrisy
12. to teach love much more than hate

1. LBGT affirmed? Maybe in a synagogue of Satan, but not in the blood-bought church of Jesus Christ.
 

Kenny

Face to face with my Father
Premium Member
You may believe this, OK, but there are some churches that believe their church is the only church, and of course the 'Body of Christ' in their own interpretation. Also it is common for people to form their own church based on a punch list like started this thread.
There is a big difference between "hundreds" and "some"!
 
Some of your requirements have nothing to do with church, which is the gathering of those who believe in the gospel of Jesus Christ and salvation.
 

shunyadragon

shunyadragon
Premium Member
There is a big difference between "hundreds" and "some"!

There are hundreds of new churches, and some claim they are the only true church. Many people start their own church, because they believe their beliefs are the best way to believe as Christians. If they did not consider their new church the true way to believe they should have just joined one of the many other churches available.
 
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9-10ths_Penguin

1/10 Subway Stalinist
Premium Member
1. LBGT affirmed
2. to not condone the state's use of the death penalty
3. acknowledgment that there is a serious overpopulation problem in this world in spite of the clause in the bible "be fruitful and multiply": well, to multiply can mean performing the mathematical act of multiplication and be fruitful can mean be productive, so why not be fruitful by working hard to support the children you unselfishly adopted into your own home and watch the provisions for your adopted children multiply as you work in earnest to earn those means?
4. acceptance of the use of lawful contraceptives
5. acceptance of abortion to save the mother or in cases of rape or incest
6. to embrace stewardship of the earth God created: to frown upon pollution, to be environmentally conscious
7. to not condone warfare except in defense of people or one's nation from the enemies of peace and liberty
8. to encourage the kind and Christian act of adoption of children in need of homes; to discourage making babies purely out of gratification for a selfish ego
9. to condone the use of guns or weapons by citizens for lawful purposes as lawful hunting, lawful shooting sports and lawful personal defense from criminal threats of violence
10. to be very giving and charitable in nature
11. to frown upon hypocrisy
12. to teach love much more than hate
It seems to me that what you're seeking conflicts with itself a fair bit, so I'm not sure the sort of church you're looking for exists.
 

sealchan

Well-Known Member
1. LBGT affirmed
2. to not condone the state's use of the death penalty
3. acknowledgment that there is a serious overpopulation problem in this world in spite of the clause in the bible "be fruitful and multiply": well, to multiply can mean performing the mathematical act of multiplication and be fruitful can mean be productive, so why not be fruitful by working hard to support the children you unselfishly adopted into your own home and watch the provisions for your adopted children multiply as you work in earnest to earn those means?
4. acceptance of the use of lawful contraceptives
5. acceptance of abortion to save the mother or in cases of rape or incest
6. to embrace stewardship of the earth God created: to frown upon pollution, to be environmentally conscious
7. to not condone warfare except in defense of people or one's nation from the enemies of peace and liberty
8. to encourage the kind and Christian act of adoption of children in need of homes; to discourage making babies purely out of gratification for a selfish ego
9. to condone the use of guns or weapons by citizens for lawful purposes as lawful hunting, lawful shooting sports and lawful personal defense from criminal threats of violence
10. to be very giving and charitable in nature
11. to frown upon hypocrisy
12. to teach love much more than hate

Familiar with Bishop Spong?

ProgressiveChristianity.org : Charting the New Reformation: The Twelve Theses
 

Sand Dancer

Crazy Cat Lady
1. LBGT affirmed
2. to not condone the state's use of the death penalty
3. acknowledgment that there is a serious overpopulation problem in this world in spite of the clause in the bible "be fruitful and multiply": well, to multiply can mean performing the mathematical act of multiplication and be fruitful can mean be productive, so why not be fruitful by working hard to support the children you unselfishly adopted into your own home and watch the provisions for your adopted children multiply as you work in earnest to earn those means?
4. acceptance of the use of lawful contraceptives
5. acceptance of abortion to save the mother or in cases of rape or incest
6. to embrace stewardship of the earth God created: to frown upon pollution, to be environmentally conscious
7. to not condone warfare except in defense of people or one's nation from the enemies of peace and liberty
8. to encourage the kind and Christian act of adoption of children in need of homes; to discourage making babies purely out of gratification for a selfish ego
9. to condone the use of guns or weapons by citizens for lawful purposes as lawful hunting, lawful shooting sports and lawful personal defense from criminal threats of violence
10. to be very giving and charitable in nature
11. to frown upon hypocrisy
12. to teach love much more than hate

There is the United Church of Christ, Disciples of Christ, Evangelical Lutheran Church in America, Presbyterian Church USA and Unitarian Universalists have members of any type of religion.
 

Kenny

Face to face with my Father
Premium Member
There are hundreds of new churches, and some claim they are the only true church. Many people start their own church, because they believe their beliefs are the best way to believe as Christians. If they did not consider their new church the true way to believe they should have just joined one of the many other churches available.

So... you are talking abut 1% of total churches?
 
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