This is Why Your God Will Condemn You Atheist Bashers to Hell

Nimos said:

Also remember that the bible is suppose to be inspired by God so he could have done a better job making sure it was written down more clearly

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Trailblazer said:

God could have but He didn't so the logical thing to do is to try to figure out why He didn't, or at least come up with some possibilities.

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Sunstone said:

An open letter to atheist bashers.​

Dear Atheist Basher,

Let's get real. If there is a god, and if that god is (as you atheist bashers seem to believe) personally interested in your morals and values, then what possible grounds do you have to assume even for a nanosecond that god is going to want to spend eternity next to someone as hateful as you?

I mean, you not only figuratively froth at the mouth with hatred when bashing atheists, you so very often lie about atheists when you bash atheists. What are the odds your god is going to want you and your kind by their side?

If I was you, and I believed in the personal god you believe in, I would first beg that god to forgive me for being a hateful person, and then I would spend the rest of my life trying to appreciate and understand this world, their creation, rather than spend even one more minute condemning it.

I'm not BSing you: That is exactly what I would do if I believed in your god but had spent as many years as you have bashing atheists -- atheists and only your god knows how many other people and groups of people.

Oh by the way, if I believed in your god, I would expect to spend eternity in hell right alongside people who bash theists like you bash atheists. So, you might want to get to like theist bashers. Seems to me you're going to be spending a whole lot of time with them if you are right about your god. But it should not be too hard for you to get to like theist bashers. After all, you have so much in common with them.

Now I don't believe in your god, but if I did --- I sure as certain would not be bashing atheists -- and perhaps just about everyone else -- while expecting a pleasant reward for being hateful and (most often) deceptive.

Sincerely.

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And now....

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lewisnotmiller said:

There's a slippery slope, though.
I'm okay (honestly) with any Christian trying to save me. At times it can be 'nice' even.

Often times it's not much to do with me though. It's easy to tell the difference, really. They're either arguing against 'cardboard cutout atheism' or we're having a conversation.

A conversation requires both speaking and listening, and I wouldnt describe such Christians as 'atheist bashers'.
Indeed, it's as likely that I'll give them something to think about as the other way. I respect people who look to converse with those different to themselves, whatever the sphere.

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74x12 said:

No, I didn't imagine you weren't perceptive enough to realize we were obviously speaking of hypotheticals. Since you speak of God as if God is evil; I am just going along with your hypothetical scenario. Yet you continue to judge God based on your own failing human reasoning. It's irrational.

As in the story of Job; God did not really answer Job's charges. God basically just asked Job what he knew about anything. Yet, Job was a righteous man. Again I say; who are you to accuse God? Wisdom tells us you are just a man and even if you were the most intelligent person to ever live yet you would not know enough to argue with God and prove God is evil.

I conclude that all your reasoning and arguments about how evil God is are irrelevant.

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syo said:

Loving your enemies isn't about be treated badly and just sit back. We actively try to correct the evil doers. We show them the path of God and we pray for them that they see the light. We are not punchbags. That's what I understand from the message of love. If we love, we can help others love too. The Orthodox Christians try to spread the message of love to be part of everyone's life. someone who refuses to accept love, we don't abandon them but we try our best to help them. We try to cure evilness.

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Nimos said:

Obviously you shouldn't. Any religious person that believe God is the final judge in the end, should see little reason to bash atheists for simply demanding evidence for God. Any atheists having a go at God will ultimately be punished by him if need be.

But my guess is that you can find atheists, just as well as theists that feel a need or that its their job to defend or ridiculous others beliefs to justify their own.

For me, I see no issue in questioning someones beliefs or their scriptures, but I would never have a go at them for believing differently than me. But I will to the extend of my knowledge argue against what they are saying, if it is not supported by their scriptures, but merely stuff that they have made up, because they believe that is how it is. But this is more out of respect for the scriptures than anything else.

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Evangelicalhumanist said:

I make no such claim. What I do claim is that it is certainly possible that I can be more intelligent -- and a lot better informed -- than those who invented god in the first place. And I know the difference between right an wrong -- and ordering the sacrifice of a child (thus scaring the **** of him and his father, too), and the slaughter and rape of innocents I put on the side of "wrong." Theists apparently see that differently when God does it. That's baffling beyond belief.

But I forget -- you cannot even imagine that I don't actually believe there is such a thing as the god you worship. That is a big failure of imagination on your part, which is really quite surprising, since you have no difficulty at all imagining your deity.

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Sunstone said:

An open letter to atheist bashers.​

Dear Atheist Basher,

Let's get real. If there is a god, and if that god is (as you atheist bashers seem to believe) personally interested in your morals and values, then what possible grounds do you have to assume even for a nanosecond that god is going to want to spend eternity next to someone as hateful as you?

I mean, you not only figuratively froth at the mouth with hatred when bashing atheists, you so very often lie about atheists when you bash atheists. What are the odds your god is going to want you and your kind by their side?

If I was you, and I believed in the personal god you believe in, I would first beg that god to forgive me for being a hateful person, and then I would spend the rest of my life trying to appreciate and understand this world, their creation, rather than spend even one more minute condemning it.

I'm not BSing you: That is exactly what I would do if I believed in your god but had spent as many years as you have bashing atheists -- atheists and only your god knows how many other people and groups of people.

Oh by the way, if I believed in your god, I would expect to spend eternity in hell right alongside people who bash theists like you bash atheists. So, you might want to get to like theist bashers. Seems to me you're going to be spending a whole lot of time with them if you are right about your god. But it should not be too hard for you to get to like theist bashers. After all, you have so much in common with them.

Now I don't believe in your god, but if I did --- I sure as certain would not be bashing atheists -- and perhaps just about everyone else -- while expecting a pleasant reward for being hateful and (most often) deceptive.

Sincerely.

______________________
And now....

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Phaedrus said:

Most theists do not seem to comprehend their hateful attitudes toward non-believers as such. From what I have been able to understand, they view themselves as spreading love in the name of their god. And then they wonder why non-believers view their god as the villain.

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Darkforbid said:

Wow, really! Like that has anything to do with my posts

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robocop (actually) said:

Yeah you're supposed to love each other and be practical about it.

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shmogie said:

Wonderful. Apparently Orthodox Christians don't follow Christs admonition to speak the truth, and if it us rejected to move on.

If I engage an atheist on RF, and the result is personal abuse, I move on.

You are free to take it if you choose, but being a doormat and accomplishing absolutely zero for the faith is a net loser position as far as I am concerned.,

The winner is the nasty atheist who gets to vent his spleen and make every effort to show you to be a fool, his intent in the first place..

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Sunstone said:

Now I don't believe in your god, but if I did

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lewisnotmiller said:

Erm...why?
Oh wait...you mean from a Christian point of view?

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Evangelicalhumanist said:

And it's odd that you are not PERCEPTIVE enough to know that if I don't believe in the existence of God, then any notion that I think I'm smarter than (or stupider than) a non-existent God is just silly. And, for the record, I also believe that the stories of Job, Abraham and most of all the rest is pure mythology, not historical accounts.

Likewise, I don't think I'm taller than (or shorter than) any non-existent thing. Get it?

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Nimos said:

Guess that is right, I can even think of a few. To get us started

1. Why would God require to have anything written down, why not simply reveal the truth to everyone, if he is capable of creating everything this should not be all that hard?

2. Why not make it so everyone is born with the correct teachings of God, he could "write" it on our heart. That would reduce the amount of confusing quite a bit I think. Remember

Jeremiah 31:33
33 Rather, this is the covenant that I'll make with the house of Israel after those days," declares the LORD. "I'll put my Law within them and will write it on their hearts. I'll be their God and they will be my people.

So guess one could wonder if God can write the laws or put them within them, why not the teachings as well?

3. Probably the most logic to me, is that God is man made and therefore never did it. But guess that is not going to be an accepted possibility, right?

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