tas8831
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Why start out spewing fantasies?
Your own posts on here show that these self-aggrandizing accolades are not reality-based.
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Why start out spewing fantasies?
Your own posts on here show that these self-aggrandizing accolades are not reality-based.
usfan
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..not content heckling in the science threads, you seem compelled to heckle and bait me, here, too.
I have come to realize that you are The Master Baiter, in this forum!
..so much projection.. 'self aggrandizing accolades?'.. at least youve put together some more interesting insults than the usual, 'Yoar dum!'
I do applaud you on posting personal snark in the appropriate forum.. this thread is all about nitpicking me, personally.. criticizing, name calling, jeering, mocking, and all the ad hom you can muster.
I don't know why you think that is appropriate in a science thread..
But, i have come to expect irrational, inappropriate responses from progressive indoctrinees. Your religious fervor rises up inside you, whenever any sacred tenets of your faith are questioned, and you attack like jihadists. Unfortunately, your zeal is misplaced. I'm not attacking your religious beliefs, just the pretense of 'Science!', that you promote with constant propaganda.
If you ever want to debate the science, I'm game.. you can request a reset, and I'll respond. But page after page of sneering heckling, poisoning the well, cherry picked 'Gotcha!' phrases, and more ad hom than any debater should ever have to deal with, only exposes you as a pretender.. an ANTI SCIENCE fraud, who thinks ridicule and mocking is a rational argument..
Like i said, it looks like you're afraid to debate me straight up.. you know I'll refute any actual rational points, so fill the post with jeering and insults, so you know i won't respond. You think the streams of ridicule and fallacies make you look clever to your cronies, and they propably do, given the low bar of intelligence with progressive indoctrinees, but they only expose you as a propagandist.. a drum pounding fanatic who could not reason themselves out of a wet paper bag.
This is what you wanted, right? Not a rational, scientific based discussion, but dickery! Snark and flame wars! I'll do that some.. in an appropriate thread, but hate to see a clearly labelled science thread trashed for the thrill of the pathetic, 'Atheists vs Christians!' flame war, that you progressive indoctrinees seem to love so much.
..too bad.. Reason and Science is dying, in Progresso World.. all that is left is mandated conformity, and all the deluded bobbleheads nod in homogeneity. All the advances in science, reason, and knowledge must take a back seat to the progressive mandates, and memorized, indoctrinated dogma.
Critical thinking? No. Trust the Knowledge Holding Elite.
Scientific Methodology? No. Science by decree, no matter how stupid or backwards it is. The Agenda is what matters, not the knowledge.
Reason? Never! Religios zeal for mandated beliefs, and any outliers are shouted down for the Approved, Institutional Narrative.
Hordes of bobbleheaded indoctrinees, flush with a neatly constructed worldview, with NO DISSENSION allowed, flood the culture, and kill reason and Truth.. all for the Agenda.
I'm glad i probably won't live to see it completely destroy the culture..
tas8831
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\Your ego is your... only apparent quality.
"Genetic evidenced descendency chart" - classic simpleton-ese!
And you are a run of the mill under-educated right-wing creationist goof.
But nice ad hom!
Pointing out your ignorance is not the same as just sayoar dum".
You dismiss it that way to protect your snowflake-like ego, but the fact is, I and others have easlity refuted each of your naive "science" claims, and y ou are too much of a Dunning-Kruger effect poster boy to know any better.
"The haplogroup is all the haplotypes together"
You actually thought THAT^^^ was the actual definition????
Still don;t know what 'ad hom' means - typical for uneducated creationist Trumpists.
No, you're not.
You run from science and rely 100% on your pre-fab archived retorts. You won;t even answer simple questions re: your claims, like "What is this "marker" you keep referring to?"
And your laughably obvious double standards - you love the Canid "genetically evidenced descendency chart" in that one paper, yet reject out of hand "genetically evidenced descendency chart" showing that Canids are related to other carnivores or that humans are related to other Primates....
For no rational, scientific reason. Just because you don;t like the implications.
Because you don't know any better.
What a joke.
You've hauled out that Canid paper before - made the exactg same claims, been rebutted multiple times, you just trot it out again.
You just donlt understand how little you understand.
Classic creationist blowhard.
usfan
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Thanks for the topical reply.. at least insults and ad hom are appropriate here..
Maybe sometime I'll swap insults with you, and fire up the 'Atheists vs Christians!' flame war that progressive indoctrinees love so much, but I'm a bit bored with that, now, and would rather engage in other discussions.
Perhaps a 'Who is Dumber!', thread would be interesting and fun..
..that seems to be the obsession, among progressive indoctrinees..
tas8831
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\Your ego is your... only apparent quality.
"Genetic evidenced descendency chart" - classic simpleton-ese!
And you are a run of the mill under-educated right-wing creationist goof.
But nice ad hom!
Pointing out your ignorance is not the same as just sayoar dum".
You dismiss it that way to protect your snowflake-like ego, but the fact is, I and others have easlity refuted each of your naive "science" claims, and y ou are too much of a Dunning-Kruger effect poster boy to know any better.
"The haplogroup is all the haplotypes together"
You actually thought THAT^^^ was the actual definition????
Still don;t know what 'ad hom' means - typical for uneducated creationist Trumpists.
No, you're not.
You run from science and rely 100% on your pre-fab archived retorts. You won;t even answer simple questions re: your claims, like "What is this "marker" you keep referring to?"
And your laughably obvious double standards - you love the Canid "genetically evidenced descendency chart" in that one paper, yet reject out of hand "genetically evidenced descendency chart" showing that Canids are related to other carnivores or that humans are related to other Primates....
For no rational, scientific reason. Just because you don;t like the implications.
Because you don't know any better.
What a joke.
You've hauled out that Canid paper before - made the exactg same claims, been rebutted multiple times, you just trot it out again.
You just donlt understand how little you understand.
Classic creationist blowhard.
Trumpist egotists seem to think that mere belief = truth.
You are not nearly as "informed" as you think you are.
You thin-skinned narcissists are hilarious.
What are the mtDNA markers you keep fantasizing about?
LOL!
Delusional disorder of the grandiose type with elements of paranoia.
This thread is an attempt to deflect legitimate criticism, establish a false image of persecution and use the responses of others to establish his own assertions without benefit of having to make valid arguments.
I see no point in responding to this person any longer, but that does not mean that I cannot point out all the fascist tactics that he employs.
usfan
Well-Known Member
Aww.. are you sulking because i don't give you attention in the common descent thread?
I told you guys, i won't be baited into turning an EVIDENCED BASED thread about scientific principles into an hysterical religious flame war.. something that progressive indoctrinees love to do.
It makes sense.. you have no scientific evidence for your religious beliefs, so the only recourse is to lash out in jihadist zeal.
But if you want dickery and pages of ad hom, this is the place! I have offered it as a concession, so as to not flood the more topical threads with this kind of dickery and snark. You should feel right at home, here.
Psycho babble analysis is perfect, here! You can give your prognosis and speculations for all my psychotic symptoms, and demean me to your heart's content!
..but be forewarned: this is not a one way shooting arcade. I may return fire.
But don't take my reluctance to reply to your insulting ad hom streams in the topical threads personally, as though i don't read and appreciate the effort you have put in to promote your fallacies. I think they are wonderful examples of progressive Indoctrination, and they illustrate the decline of reason and empiricism in this dumbed down culture we are in.
..and by the way.. I am the one who knocks. Reason and truth have more bite and sting than lies and false accusations.. that is why the lame accusations from you nitwits roll off of me.. there is no substance, but they are hysterical caricatures, to attempt to discredit me, personally. OTOH, when i pick up your ad hom grenades, pull the pins, and lob them back, you feel the impact from the explosion of Truth, and it elicits howls of indignation and pain, because my return barbs are truth based, not lies and false accusations.
I try to NOT gang up on you guys, seeing you are at a tremendous disadvantage in both Intellect and etiquette. But the shrieking and poo throwing gets old, and it does disrupt the rational threads.
If you'd like, i can start a thread dedicated to the 'Atheists vs Christians!' flame war, where hysterical heckling and sneering would be appropriate. Would that help, as an outlet for your hostility? Could you, then, employ Reason in the other threads? Or are you hopelessly steeped in fallacy, and reason is a foreign enemy?
usfan
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Like i noted earlier, 'Trump!!' is the new Hitler. A smear by association, but still a fallacy.
Let's see.. 'Reductio ad Nazium', or 'argumentum ad Hitlerum', is the cute label for this fallacy, so what shall we do for the Trump Revision?
Argumentum ad Trumpum? Reductio hair swoopium?
Argumentum ad MAGAhatium?Of course, the anti Trump haters have their own catch phrase, 'Love trumps hate!', which they demonstrate constantly br heckling, shouting down their ideological enemies, and attacking any opponents to the progressive worldview... ironic, since Trump is likely as much a progressive as most of the hecklers..
I find it hilarious that you seem to 'know' what i think.
..and your bigoted projections only reflect yourself. I have no compunction to wear your biases and delusions. They are yours, alone.
tas8831
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Snowflakes. Go figure. Probably another aspect of the delusion.
Hurt feelings from being ignored is another aspect of delusional disorder of the grandiose type. Then there is the projection of insulting the person ignoring you and the pretense that it is the delusional that is doing the ignoring.
I see it as trolling for attention.
usfan
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ROFL!!
You are describing yourself!
You are here, in a 'bash usfan!' thread, worrying about my feelings..
You guys are so funny..
tas8831
Well-Known Member
Like i noted earlier, 'Trump!!' is the new Hitler. A smear by association, but still a fallacy.
Let's see.. 'Reductio ad Nazium', or 'argumentum ad Hitlerum', is the cute label for this fallacy, so what shall we do for the Trump Revision?
Argumentum ad Trumpum? Reductio hair swoopium?
Says the fellow that claims we are all 'progressive indoctrinees.'
Typical righty whiner - can dish it out but can definitely not take it., Just like his hero tRump.
He is a fascist. He can't help himself.
I never read about the fascist being such whiners. A fascist snowflake? Looks like it.
usfan
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I've not posted here much lately, and am considering the value of time spent. The over the top hostility toward biblical Christians, and the barrages of insults, false accusations, and other logical fallacies are driving me away from this forum. Reason and civility seem despised, here, for a progressive narrative.
Life is too short to waste it on hate filled bigots, with no tolerance for other's beliefs.
So, i will likely fade away more, with cheers and jeers from the resident hecklers.
Life is too short to waste it on hate filled bigots, with no tolerance for other's beliefs.
So, i will likely fade away more, with cheers and jeers from the resident hecklers.
usfan
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Shakespeare is fine, but I'll include a quote from the German Shakespeare, too.
I am used to men who mock and scorn things beyond their comprehension. ~ Goethe
It is a tragic commentary on the state of knowledge and epistemology, where ridicule substitutes for reason. ..and nowhere is this more obvious than in progressive institutions.
I am used to men who mock and scorn things beyond their comprehension. ~ Goethe
It is a tragic commentary on the state of knowledge and epistemology, where ridicule substitutes for reason. ..and nowhere is this more obvious than in progressive institutions.
tas8831
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Only those that refuse to correct their errors and play games to avoid having to admit they're out of their intellectual league. I mean, a guy claiming DECADES of study on evolution who then writes gems like:
"Analysis of DNA" shows very little similarity, in the actual genes
and no, that is not a false accusation, it is not out of context, it it from a LIST you made of supposed problems with evolution.
And then there was the glorious gaffe you made re: the "Eve gene" - which for months (if we count the times you made the claim on other forums), wherein you declared that there was this special "marker" in ONLY human mitochondrial genomes, found ONLY in human females, that showed humans were special:
Let's look at some facts:
- The mtDNA, carries a flag in it from mother to daughter. It has ironically been called the 'Eve' gene. Males don't have it, but all women do. It is passed down from mother to daughter in ANY descended line. It is the same 'marker' in every human being.. african, scandinavian, chinese, native american, eskimo, islander, european, indian, mongolian, aborigine. Every human being can trace their actual descendancy to this singular 'mother' of all humanity.
- IF, we evolved separately, from an ape or chimp, we would not have this common marker, but each people group or race would have their own, as the human mother that first started the 'race' could be traced to everyone else in this race.
- Apes & chimps do not have a human mtDNA marker, but their own, by which we can trace their descendancy.
- Equids have a similar path, but with much more diversity than homo sapiens. Horses, donkeys, zebras, etc can all trace their descendancy to a common ancestor, through the mtDNA.. and even though there is a minor 'reproductive isolation' between some of them, the genetics shows the ancestry.
- All humans can interbreed.. pigmies in africa can mate with tall white russians, & aborigines can mate with eskimos. There is no trace of reproductive isolation among human beings, which makes sense, since they are all descended from the same phylogenetic base.
The spelling errors are also a hoot! I especially like this:
"Since the mtDNA is one of the few actual, reliable 'markers' of descendancy.."
That is amazing, seeing as how when I discussed a paper that used mtDNA to examine the "descendancy" [sic] of humans to other apes, he dismissed it outright - "Eve gene" and all... LOL!
Then you posted a link in which it indicated that "Eve gene" was just what layfolk sometimes called the entire mitochondrial genome, and that ALL humans have these (as do all eukaryotic organism!) - YOUR OWN LINK demolished your entire argument! But when this was pointed out to you, you just... acted like you. Whined, ignored, accused people of not following your personal 'rules for debate' - anything except showing some humility and admitting your were terribly, foolishly, pathetically WRONG:
Here is a decent summary about mtDNA, and the 'Eve gene'.. the flag that indicates direct descendancy.
https://www.bradshawfoundation.com/journey/eve.html
One tiny piece of our DNA is inherited only down the female line. It is called mitochondrial DNA because it is held as a unique circular strand in small tubular packets known as mitochondria that function rather like batteries within the cell cytoplasm.
https://www.bradshawfoundation.com/journey/eve.html
One tiny piece of our DNA is inherited only down the female line. It is called mitochondrial DNA because it is held as a unique circular strand in small tubular packets known as mitochondria that function rather like batteries within the cell cytoplasm.
Here is the greatest thing bout that link - the part he quotes is followed, just a few sentences later, by this:
So each of us inherits our mtDNA from our own mother, who inherited her mtDNA intact from her mother, and so on back through the generations – hence mtDNA’s popular name, ‘the Eve gene’.
!!!!
So, you don't even read (or understand?) your own sources! But sure, it is all because of our "progressive indocrination" that we can understansd stuff that you can't, despite your ego-puffing fibs about how many decades you've studied it all.
But decades of study and you cannot even get your OWN ARGUMENTS correct?
What does that say about your "conservative indoctrination"???
LOL! What a child....
usfan
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You heckle and disrupt my science threads, with floods of personal attacks and hateful dogpiles, then want to debate science in an inquisition thread? Seriously?
No, you and your crony hecklers, with complicity from biased mods, have shown me that rational, scientific debate here is impossible. You can enjoy all your beliefs, fantasies, and delusions, with no correction from me!
..and, the over the top bigotry and hostility toward biblical Christians is shocking.. if not alarming. It has been quite an eye opener, posting in alleged 'religious' forum..
So bash away, if it makes you feel better. I'll likely not be posting much here, anyway..