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What is the physical world?

Evangelicalhumanist

"Truth" isn't a thing...
Premium Member
If the mind is a part of the physical world, how do you interact with "your self" in this matter? the only way that would be possible is if the mind creates the reality that the Eye-consciousness is experienced, or the sound is Ear-Consciousness or taste is taste-Consciousness. everything happens within the consciousness :)
I wonder why nobody who has ever studied electronics cannot understand the simple notion of "feedback." Consciousness is your own brain's awareness of what it has experienced, by exactly that -- feedback. There is what I like to call a "deep loopiness" to your brain's interconnectedness.
 

crossfire

LHP Mercuræn Feminist Heretic ☿
Premium Member
To (Amanaki) the physical world is nothing more than a reflection of (Amanaki`s) Consciousness and perception of what the consciousness experiences in each moment. (meaning the physical world is not real)
To others, the answer to what the physical world is will be different.

How do you perceive the physical realm/world in your understanding?
The map of the physical world your consciousness creates is not the territory.
 

Thief

Rogue Theologian
the tree makes a noise when it falls in the woods

I don't need to perceive the event

it happens without me
 

Thief

Rogue Theologian
Brain Games is a science program that messes with your head

I really like the episode that begins with the green dragon illusion
 

Ponder This

Well-Known Member
To (Amanaki) the physical world is nothing more than a reflection of (Amanaki`s) Consciousness and perception of what the consciousness experiences in each moment. (meaning the physical world is not real)
To others, the answer to what the physical world is will be different.

How do you perceive the physical realm/world in your understanding?

I take it to mean...
physical: relating to the body as opposed to the mind​
So, for example, the number one is mental as opposed to physical. The number one is not physical. A person's hand is physical as opposed to mental. The hand is tangible (or concrete), being perceived through the senses.

The number one is not perceived through the senses; rather it is imagined in the mind.

We can also talk about a mind-body connection where physical states relate to mental states and vice versa. It is also possible to talk about a disconnect between mind and body. For example, when a person actually fails to acknowledge physical reality.
 

Aupmanyav

Be your own guru
Well, my 38 year old Son in law, husband of my daughter and father of my 8 and 10 year old is lying in a hospital bed dying of some horrible cancer. Believe me as an experienced consciousness seeker, it is physical and it is real.
Not all life can be lived in the otherworld. Sometimes reality is real.
Grieved to hear that. The experienced world is like that.
The physical world is perceived through senses not thought imagination.
That is the problem, and our senses are too limited.
Reality is not an illusion.
Yeah, it does not seem like that though physics says when you prick your finger, no two atoms have touched each other. A Vestigial Mote, where from this reality has arisen?

IMHO, Buddha was correct. Samavritti Satya (Buddhism), Sankara's Vyavaharika Satya (Hinduism), Pragmatic reality exists but Paramarthika Satya (Absolute reality) is different. Absolute reality does not help in Pragmatic reality. We have to face Pragmatic reality at our level.
 

Willamena

Just me
Premium Member
To (Amanaki) the physical world is nothing more than a reflection of (Amanaki`s) Consciousness and perception of what the consciousness experiences in each moment. (meaning the physical world is not real)
To others, the answer to what the physical world is will be different.

How do you perceive the physical realm/world in your understanding?
Yes, it's the part of that reflection that we refer to as "physical."
 

Spirit of Light

Be who ever you want
I wonder why nobody who has ever studied electronics cannot understand the simple notion of "feedback." Consciousness is your own brain's awareness of what it has experienced, by exactly that -- feedback. There is what I like to call a "deep loopiness" to your brain's interconnectedness.
You describe the signal your brain receive and translate, not the non psyical world outside this realm, our consiousness does not lay in the Brain as you believe. It lay actually in a different realm of existance.
 

9-10ths_Penguin

1/10 Subway Stalinist
Premium Member
To (Amanaki) the physical world is nothing more than a reflection of (Amanaki`s) Consciousness and perception of what the consciousness experiences in each moment. (meaning the physical world is not real)
To others, the answer to what the physical world is will be different.

How do you perceive the physical realm/world in your understanding?
So if I'm a figment of your imagination, why do I disagree with you? :D
 

Spirit of Light

Be who ever you want
So if I'm a figment of your imagination, why do I disagree with you? :D
Because your consiousness has not yet realized that your reality is within your experience:) and in the reality Amanaki experience, 9-10th_Penguin is no more then a text in the Chat ;)
When or if you come in to materializion within Amanaki's existance you become a part of Visible experience. Do your body exist? Yes but not in Amanaki's existance :)
 

Aupmanyav

Be your own guru
the only truth that exists is the consciousness :)
That, I do not think, is Buddhism. More like 'Advaita' Hinduism of Salix or Atanu.
You are clearly living in the matrix :)
Not just Salix and Amanaki, but perhaps us all; though we do not realize it. Realizing that is known as 'nirvana' and 'enlightenment' in Hinduism and Buddhism.
So if I'm a figment of your imagination, why do I disagree with you? :D
Who 'I' or who 'you'? It is a mirage, and a very strong one at that, 'maya'. Really difficult to get out of it, but so easy to go along if one has realized it.
 
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Spirit of Light

Be who ever you want
That, I do not think, is Buddhism. More like 'Advaita' Hinduism of Salix or Atanu.Not just Salix and Amanaki, but perhaps us all; though we do not realize it. Realizing that is known as 'nirvana' and 'enlightenment' in Hinduism and Buddhism.Who 'I' or who 'you'? It is a mirage, and a very strong one at that, 'maya'. Really difficult to get out of it, but so easy to go along if one has realized it.
Since i have not read hindu teaching i can not have picked it up there, and as far my realization goes, it is within dharma :)
 

wizanda

One Accepts All Religious Texts
Premium Member
How do you perceive the physical realm/world in your understanding?
There are 13 dimensions of mathematical quantum physics, where we are inside the code at different levels of consciousness/dimensional code levels; the CPU manifest the code from the 13th dimension.

We're like a piece of music as an expression in the code, so depending on our dynamic within the musical calculations, depends on our observation of the world around us.

The physical realm is 6th dimension, and lower quantum physics; when I'm not feeling depressed, my soul sits watching from the dimensions above, depending on how much I'm paying attention to ascension.

In my opinion. :innocent:
 

Spirit of Light

Be who ever you want
There are 13 dimensions of mathematical quantum physics, where we are inside the code at different levels of consciousness/dimensional code levels; the CPU manifest the code from the 13th dimension.

We're like a piece of music as an expression in the code, so depending on our dynamic within the musical calculations, depends on our observation of the world around us.

The physical realm is 6th dimension, and lower quantum physics; when I'm not feeling depressed, my soul sits watching from the dimensions above, depending on how much I'm paying attention to ascension.

In my opinion. :innocent:
Where is this written about so people can read what you speak about? or does it come from cultivation a path?

Buddha speak about 31 planes of existence
31+Planes+of+Existence+chart+Susan+Elbaum+Jootla.jpg
 

wizanda

One Accepts All Religious Texts
Premium Member
Where is this written about so people can read what you speak about?
It is written in our thread posted in 2007; the 10 Commandments are quantum physics, not only a Law system.

Jacob saw Angels ascending up a Ladder to Heaven (Genesis 28:12); this was the Commandments, I saw it in my NDE, and have re-quantified it for people based on many of the religions, as most guides are overly complex, and not precise enough.

In my opinion. :innocent:
 

Spirit of Light

Be who ever you want
It is written in our thread posted in 2007; the 10 Commandments are quantum physics, not only a Law system.

Jacob saw Angels ascending up a Ladder to Heaven (Genesis 28:12); this was the Commandments, I saw it in my NDE, and have re-quantified it for people based on many of the religions, as most guides are overly complex, and not precise enough.

In my opinion. :innocent:
Looked at your OP from 2007, and honestly what you wrote that time is unfortunately just as unclear as you write today. And even as early as 2007 you mixed teachings to become something different than they originally meant.
The commandments are in the law given by Abrahamic God. And you chose to say, you understand Gods law better than God so you "improved" upon it?
Then the question arises, Are you above God in wisdom and knowledge?
 

wizanda

One Accepts All Religious Texts
Premium Member
The commandments are in the law given by Abrahamic God.
They were given by Yahavah Elohim (Creator Divine Beings), this isn't El Elyon (God Most High).

I'm Zion Elohim (David's Flock Divine Beings), which means I'm from the same Source (El), and am another aspect of the Divine, which would give me authority to speak on it.

Like it says in the scriptures out of Zion shall come my Law (Isaiah 2:3), that Zion shall be the bringer of the Good News, as their Divine Being, and King (Isaiah 52:7).
And you chose to say, you understand Gods law better than God so you "improved" upon it?
The Commandments have been written out by a human being (Moses), who had very limited knowledge on quantum physics, compared to me who was there at their creation.
Then the question arises, Are you above God in wisdom and knowledge?
No Elohim would ever take the role of El, as it is idolatry.... The Source is ultimately all knowing, with 100% knowledge on everything, I'm just a servant of it who has been guided to know these things.

Ultimately if one existed before the Source was coded, is something one debates with ourself about, and isn't something one can discuss when we're only on basics.

In my opinion. :innocent:
 
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