IndigoChild5559
Loving God and my neighbor as myself.
Take Calculus. Learn how to deal with the infinite. Eternal things can exist. Why not eternal entities? Any god which is not eternal is not good enough to be my God.
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How was god created?
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I have no idea about calculus, I was never any good at maths. Why should any god exist, they appear to be all human creations?
IndigoChild5559
Loving God and my neighbor as myself.
Asked and answered. Scroll back and read what I've already written.
TagliatelliMonster
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So, to summarize: it's all unknowable.
Kind of curious that your post doesn't just end there then... Sounds like declaring it "unknowable" is kind of a conversation stopper.
Eum....
You JUST declared it as being unknowable. And even took your time in multiple paragraphs to express just how unknowable it is.
And then you say the above.... "..we can know.."
So which is it?
Can we or can't we?
One of both has to be wrong.
So apparantly Baha'u'llah knows the unknowable?
I always chuckle when people declare things unknowable and then proceed with making.... knowledge claims.
TagliatelliMonster
Veteran Member
False. It is, unless you can demonstrate your claims.
But you can't, so it is.
I certaintly agree that hunting entities that are indistinguishable from imaginary beings, is a waste of time.
Firstly, God is not a human being as we are. We can not communicate directly with Him in His natural form so He sends His Representatives, His Prophets and Messengers in human form as Mediators to communicate with us according to our own capacity.
Verily, were God the Exalted to appear in His (proper) grade and form, and in a manner befitting His Station, no one could ever approach Him or endure to be near Him.
In every world, He appears according to the capacity of that world. For example, in the world of spirits He manifests Himself to them and appears unto them with the signs of the Spirit. So, likewise, in bodies in the world of names and attributes;
So at various times in history God has sent Messengers to assist us to grow and develop spiritually and to carry forward an ever advancing civilisation and to let us know of His existence and love for us.
No tie of direct intercourse can possibly bind Him to His creatures.
He is and hath ever been veiled in the ancient eternity of His Essence, and will remain in His Reality everlastingly hidden from the sight of men.
All we are told about God comes from These Manifestations. They tell us that God’s Essence is incomprehensible to all even Themselves but that God has revealed to us through Them knowledge of some of His attributes like love justice, mercy, compassion and so on and offers guidance to us as we evolve and progress.
Words in italic are all from Baha’u’llah’s Writings.
In a provisional translation He explains more about God and our limitations to know Him.
Tablet of the Manifestation
The irony of this statement made me laugh.
Why?
You claim to have knowledge of what every being on earth knows about a god, which is you state is nothing, and then go on to say that such a god in all probability doesn't exist.
Please tell me that you don't see the irony (and arrogance) in that statement.
No one knows for sure if any god exists, if they say they do they are in error, imo.
For this statement to be true, you will have to have spoken individually to every being on earth about their knowledge of the existence of any god.
In my opinion humans have created gods, and they only exist in the mind of believers. If any of them existed surely there would be verifiable evidence to prove their existence.
So make up your mind, then. Do they do exist or don't they exist?
I think I have stated my opinion quite clearly.
Since you choose to ignore my question, I'll conclude that you cannot answer it.
No one can know for sure if a god exists or not, but as there is no verifiable evidence to support their existence, the default position must be that they don't exist, imo. Is that clear enough for you?
No.
If no one can know for sure if a gods exists or not and there is no evidence to support their existence or non-existence, how is “they don’t exist” the default position? Especially in light of the fact that you said yourself in post #95 that they do exist.