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Are you Greater than an Ape?

for lack of ability?.....does animals believe?

  • no....they cannot

    Votes: 3 33.3%
  • we are dust as they are dust

    Votes: 6 66.7%
  • faith saves

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Total voters
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Bear Wild

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Man as a species....Day Six
no names
no garden
no law
go forth, be fruitful, multiply
dominate all things

and Man did so

but we would have overrun the planet and it's resources
LONG before the spirit of Man could gel

so.....Chapter Two
a selected specimen
ideal living conditions
manipulation
anesthesia
surgery
cloning
a test to make sure the alteration took hold
release into the environment
Your posts are always so poetic - reminds me of slam poetry. I have always appreciated poetry written from us apes.
 

Bear Wild

Well-Known Member
Human beings are the literal children of God. The potential inheritors of the Universe and all the powers that be.

Apes are not.
No human beings were not the literal children of a god and whatever you think the god mated with. Humans are human apes unless you have completely no understanding of biology. Humans currently are headed for extinction and there may well be no one to inherit anything in the near future. Your inappropriate sense of superiority over other living things indicates a lack of comprehension of how interdependent we all are with other life. This reckless abandonment for the truth has created our current environmental crisis. Only ignorance allows someone not to see how closely we are related.

Or do you see yourself more related to angels?
 

shunyadragon

shunyadragon
Premium Member
All things were created by God.

How does that fact alter our divine lineage?

I believe we have a Divine and physical heritage. Actually our physical heritage is documented by objective verifiable evidence as our relation with all life on the planet.

I believe we have a Divine heritage, and a soul, but the nature of this Divine heritage is of course dependent on belief of one's faith and not objective evidence.
 
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JesusKnowsYou

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No human beings were not the literal children of a god and whatever you think the god mated with. Humans are human apes unless you have completely no understanding of biology. Humans currently are headed for extinction and there may well be no one to inherit anything in the near future. Your inappropriate sense of superiority over other living things indicates a lack of comprehension of how interdependent we all are with other life. This reckless abandonment for the truth has created our current environmental crisis. Only ignorance allows someone not to see how closely we are related.

Or do you see yourself more related to angels?
You seem to have injected many things I never said into my comment.

All I have claimed is that we are the children of God, inheritors of His Kingdom, while apes are not.

I am also the son of my father, and you are not. I will inherit what he has, and you will not. Do these facts denote some kind of superiority on my part?

You were the one who injected the idea of "superiority" and my supposed lack of comprehension concerning "interdependence".

Where did I ever say that apes or any other creatures do not matter?

In actuality, my claim that we are the offspring of God means that we were chosen to be the Stewards of this planet and are therefore responsible for it.

We will be judged based on how we treated this world that God, Our Father, gave us.

However, I do not subscribe to the apocalyptic hysteria of today. We are not heading toward extinction.

Last couple points -

Gods mate with other Gods. We are the children of Gods. We are infant Gods. Hmm...more like Gods in embryo.

Angels are either the spirits of men and women either pre- or most-mortality or Resurrected Beings - like the Lord Jesus Christ - who have perfected bodies of flesh and bone.
 

JesusKnowsYou

Active Member
I believe we have a Divine and physical heritage. Actually our physical heritage is documented by objective verifiable evidence as our relation with all life on the planet.

I believe we have a Divine heritage, and a soul, but the nature of this Divine heritage is of course dependent on belief of one's faith and not objective evidence.
OK. Does that also make you "self-important"?

Why did you feel the need to lash out at me?
 

Bear Wild

Well-Known Member
You seem to have injected many things I never said into my comment.

All I have claimed is that we are the children of God, inheritors of His Kingdom, while apes are not.

I am also the son of my father, and you are not. I will inherit what he has, and you will not. Do these facts denote some kind of superiority on my part?

You were the one who injected the idea of "superiority" and my supposed lack of comprehension concerning "interdependence".

Where did I ever say that apes or any other creatures do not matter?

In actuality, my claim that we are the offspring of God means that we were chosen to be the Stewards of this planet and are therefore responsible for it.

We will be judged based on how we treated this world that God, Our Father, gave us.

However, I do not subscribe to the apocalyptic hysteria of today. We are not heading toward extinction.

Last couple points -

Gods mate with other Gods. We are the children of Gods. We are infant Gods. Hmm...more like Gods in embryo.

Angels are either the spirits of men and women either pre- or most-mortality or Resurrected Beings - like the Lord Jesus Christ - who have perfected bodies of flesh and bone.

We are apes! Unless you have evidence that all of the biological evidence is wrong. So since we are apes then we inherit in the same way as other apes.
Yes you are the son of your biological father - no disagreement there.
As soon as you see yourself as different from other life you create a separation that does not exist. The moment you claim you are a steward and responsible create a superiority relationship. The planet was doing just fine before humans evolved with out any need for a "Steward". What humans have proven to do is to cause mass extinction and rapid habitat loss and climate change.

As for the last comments. I see you are a polytheist and accept that there are male and female deities but you lost me when you imagined that humans are gods. REALLY? All apes and for that fact all life are as much gods as humans. This must be some pantheistic view you have.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
We are apes! Unless you have evidence that all of the biological evidence is wrong. So since we are apes then we inherit in the same way as other apes.
Yes you are the son of your biological father - no disagreement there.
As soon as you see yourself as different from other life you create a separation that does not exist. The moment you claim you are a steward and responsible create a superiority relationship. The planet was doing just fine before humans evolved with out any need for a "Steward". What humans have proven to do is to cause mass extinction and rapid habitat loss and climate change.

As for the last comments. I see you are a polytheist and accept that there are male and female deities but you lost me when you imagined that humans are gods. REALLY? All apes and for that fact all life are as much gods as humans. This must be some pantheistic view you have.
Under religion he lists Latter Day Saints. There seem to be quite a few differences among believers in that sect. I have heard that some LDS believe that they will become Gods of their own worlds, to be fair I have heard this denied as well. But that does seem to go with his beliefs.
 

IndigoChild5559

Loving God and my neighbor as myself.
I know you will now report my post, and I will again be in hot water
I didn't see anything in your post to report, despite the fact that I disagree.

There is no evidence that man evolved from some hominid.
There is overwhelming evidence that Homo Sapiens evolved from lower apes, through the Australopithecines, and then through other species of genus Homo.
 

Bear Wild

Well-Known Member
Under religion he lists Latter Day Saints. There seem to be quite a few differences among believers in that sect. I have heard that some LDS believe that they will become Gods of their own worlds, to be fair I have heard this denied as well. But that does seem to go with his beliefs.
Thanks, appreciate the insight. Still to think though he is a god is still bizarre. I have never understood the Latter Day Saints so I guess I should not be too surprised.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
Thanks, appreciate the insight. Still to think though he is a god is still bizarre. I have never understood the Latter Day Saints so I guess I should not be too surprised.
And I found at least one usually reliable site that confirms it, but you know how religions are. Even in the same sect there can be strong disagreements. I will not.claim that anything I have found is the definitive LDS.
 
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