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You'd Think That Those Who Ran Public Schools Would Be Brighter Than This

Skwim

Skwim

Veteran Member
Moz said:
Is that really all you think it was. That is very sad.
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Other than the message that a person can't run away from God's plans, that's about it. Unless, that is, you need to concoct other messages around it. :shrug:

As for being more than a fairy tale, please don't tell me you believe a fish could swallow a human being who was able to stay alive for three days and three nights in the fish's stomach without drowning. Problem is, six year-old children would. All in all a Christian ploy that's almost as reprehensible as the Santa Clause fiction.

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Subduction Zone

Subduction Zone

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Skwim said:
Other than the message that a person can't run away from God's plans, that's about it. Unless, that is, you need to concoct other messages around it. :shrug:

As for being more than a fairy tale, please don't tell me you believe a fish could swallow a human being who was able to stay alive for three days and three nights in the fish's stomach without drowning. Problem is, six year-old children would. All in all a Christian ploy that's almost as reprehensible as the Santa Clause fiction.

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I don't know. The Santa Claus story can lead to some amazing insights.
 
Moz

Moz

Religion. A pox on all their Houses.
Skwim said:
Other than the message that a person can't run away from God's plans, that's about it. Unless, that is, you need to concoct other messages around it. :shrug:

As for being more than a fairy tale, please don't tell me you believe a fish could swallow a human being who was able to stay alive for three days and three nights in the fish's stomach without drowning. Problem is, six year-old children would. All in all a Christian ploy that's almost as reprehensible as the Santa Clause fiction.

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Other than the message that a person can't run away from God's plans, that's about it.
That's a pretty good lesson in itself. Of course you phrase it in a way that makes it seems simple. The lesson is that running away or trying to hide from our responsibilities is pointless they always catch up. And also that we can let our imagination make something seem much worse than it really is. And also that you will fell better if you face your responsibilities head on. And any discussion of the play amongst the kids would no doubt bring out other little things that have nothing to do with religion in particular.

On a historical level any story that would encourage kids to learn about the Assyrians, Hebrews and the whole mesopotamian world is a good thing.
If you want to ban all the old stories because they contain hard to grasp concepts then how the hell are kids meant to learn anything?
 
wandering peacefully

wandering peacefully

Which way to the woods?
Subduction Zone said:
They are not that dumb. Sometimes one does have to remind them of the results of lawsuits if they push the issue.
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I understand that and it should be done. I'm just saying there probably is no realistic hope of them understanding why they are wrong or changing them over to the dark side.:) They just dig their heals in more and have more excuses to hate non-believers.
 
wandering peacefully

wandering peacefully

Which way to the woods?
Skwim said:
FWIW, there are 331 radio stations in Iowa, of which 66, 20%, have a religious format.

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Thanks for the details! That's a lot of religious stations who get free everything so they can have that many stations. And of course, certain stations only come in in certain places throughout the state. I imagine the other 80% are centered in the "big cities". Driving through the endless corn fields the religious ones come in the most.

Luckily there was a tiny Walmart in the middle of nowhere and it had one Dark Side of the Moon album. We bought it and listened to that.
 
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Ponder This

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Subduction Zone said:
No, equality for all. They are not advocating that atheism be taught at schools. They are merely pointing out that one religion cannot get preferential treatment than others. Is reminding people of the laws "coercion"? The last thing they want to do is to bring a lawsuit on.
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They have stated what they do. If a school was having religious freedoms infringed upon, what would the AHA do about it? And is that equality for all?
 
Skwim

Skwim

Veteran Member
Moz said:
Other than the message that a person can't run away from God's plans, that's about it.
That's a pretty good lesson in itself. Of course you phrase it in a way that makes it seems simple. The lesson is that running away or trying to hide from our responsibilities is pointless they always catch up. And also that we can let our imagination make something seem much worse than it really is. And also that you will fell better if you face your responsibilities head on. And any discussion of the play amongst the kids would no doubt bring out other little things that have nothing to do with religion in particular.

On a historical level any story that would encourage kids to learn about the Assyrians, Hebrews and the whole mesopotamian world is a good thing.
If you want to ban all the old stories because they contain hard to grasp concepts then how the hell are kids meant to learn anything?
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What they shouldn't be learning are religious messages their parents don't want them exposed to, and this is exactly what the play put on by a private Christian college was likely doing. What if the field trip was to a play put on by a Satanist organization about the virtues of Satan. Would you like your six year-old child exposed to it? Maybe you would, but a lot of Christian parents wouldn't. So whether it's a play about your god or the virtues of Satan, because it's sponsored or abetted by the public school it's against the law.

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Moz

Moz

Religion. A pox on all their Houses.
Skwim said:
What they shouldn't be learning are religious messages their parents don't want them exposed to, and this is exactly what the play put on by a private Christian college was likely doing. What if the field trip was to a play put on by a Satanist organization about the virtues of Satan. Would you like your six year-old child exposed to it? Maybe you would, but a lot of Christian parents wouldn't. So whether it's a play about your god or the virtues of Satan, because it's sponsored or abetted by the public school it's against the law.

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Far out . Pinocchio has a religious message if you dig into it. Lighten up. You lot better be careful . I don't think you have any idea how much of your world is built on my stories.
 
Subduction Zone

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
Moz said:
Far out . Pinocchio has a religious message if you dig into it. Lighten up. You lot better be careful . I don't think you have any idea how much of your world is built on my stories.
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A moral message is not necessarily a religious one. If one read and understood the many moral failures of the Bible this would be obvious.
 
Moz

Moz

Religion. A pox on all their Houses.
Subduction Zone said:
A moral message is not necessarily a religious one. If one read and understood the many moral failures of the Bible this would be obvious.
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Ah...... Well stop hijacking religious messages to make your morals. Good luck with that. No wishing upon a star for your matey.

As for understanding the morals of the bible how could you understand when you judge yourself morally superior to all humanity that came before you. The lack is in you misunderstanding, but it is obvious that you like it that way, you are after all morally superior . .
 
Skwim

Skwim

Veteran Member
Moz said:
Far out . Pinocchio has a religious message if you dig into it.
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Which is? . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Ah yes:

Jehovah is as a monstrous whale who would
rather devour your soul than save you from drowning.

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Subduction Zone

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
Moz said:
Ah...... Well stop hijacking religious messages to make your morals. Good luck with that. No wishing upon a star for your matey.

As for understanding the morals of the bible how could you understand when you judge yourself morally superior to all humanity that came before you. The lack is in you misunderstanding, but it is obvious that you like it that way, you are after all morally superior . .
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No one has done that. And Christians did not heed your advice when they created the Jesus myth.

And where did I say that I was morally superior to all of humanity before me? I am merely more moral than the writers of the Bible. But that is a very low standard.
 
Cooky

Cooky

Veteran Member
Saint Frankenstein said:
Many of the Founding Fathers were Deists who hated institutional Christianity (look at Thomas Jefferson and Ben Franklin, for example). America is a revolutionary Enlightenment experiment, same as modern France. Try again.
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They were all Christian Deists. Except for Thomas Paine, who was a non-Christian Deist.
 
Cooky

Cooky

Veteran Member
Skwim said:
Which is? . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Ah yes:

Jehovah is as a monstrous whale who would
rather devour your soul than save you from drowning.

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I think the biblical writers were trying to portray the immense strength and power of God in their writings. Which I believe is true.

It's only a minority of fundamentalist Christians who take the stories literally.
 
Saint Frankenstein

Saint Frankenstein

Wanderer From Afar
Premium Member
Landon Caeli said:
They were all Christian Deists. Except for Thomas Paine, who was a non-Christian Deist.
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They liked Jesus' social teachings but dumped everything else (that's a common opinion among non-Christians, so it's nothing special). They didn't believe in a Trinity and believed that God is more distant but can be understood more through reason alone. No, they weren't Christians and took pains to separate religion and state as different spheres.

Also, many of them, like Ben Franklin, were Freemasons and involved in rather debaunched groups like the Hellfire Club. Definitely not Christian behavior.
 
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