Audie
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"If you bend too far over backwards,you will
fall flat on your face"
-J. Thurber, Fables For Our Time
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Corrupt Border Control
- Thread starter Lyndon
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"If you bend too far over backwards,you will
fall flat on your face"
-J. Thurber, Fables For Our Time
Your story was the one that mentioned an "unmarked road."
... which still would only suggest a deliberate attempt to cross a ditch, not necessarily an attempt to enter the US.
In the photo I posted, there's no indication that the ditch is an international border.
Subduction Zone
Veteran Member
Did it? I will have to go back and see if the border patrol made that claim. This is from the article linked by the OP:
"In her statement, Connors said that on Oct. 3 her family was visiting Vancouver, Canada, and did not intend to enter the U.S. Her husband’s cousin, Michael Connors, was driving close to the border, and when an animal suddenly appeared in the lane, he turned onto an unmarked road to avoid a collision."
I don't know how one could drive in that area without being aware of the border. And please note, they knew that they were close to the border in their story. They claim to have swerved to avoid some unnamed animal (must have been a moose, this is Canada that we are talking aboot). The custom officials say that they crossed slowly and deliberately. In the photo that you posted if they did cross accidentally it would have been very easy to cross back over in the same way. Instead they supposedly looked for a place to turn around. I am sorry but that does not make sense. If it was a case of parallel roads then the obvious act would have been to cross back over. Their story does not hold up. Second there were people in the car that had been refused entry. That is not done lightly. Those people should have been paranoid about getting even close to the border.
Darkforbid
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Darkforbid
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Yep, people refused entry to the US, entered accidentally
Sounds credible
Sounds credible
Subduction Zone
Veteran Member
The story of the Brits fell apart.
It does to me.
I haven't seen anything saying that they were refused entry immediately before. Anything that I've seen just said that some of the people in the car were refused entry at some point in the past. That could very well have been for something inocuous years ago... accidentally getting the wrong class of visa for a visit to the US, for instance.
Milton Platt
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Interesting. so there are roads that cross the border between the USA and Canada that have no signs posted to designate the border?
Shad
Veteran Member
Ummmm. Your little picture has a street name on it.... You didn't need to zoom in at all. The street name itself is the clue as is the street name on the US side. More so you could have easily zoomed out to get that information. Anyone drive down either road should be able to figure it out pretty easily when no road but those at border crossings are south/north. No driveways either. Or the fact that there are two parallel roads only feet from each other without one being a highway.. and with no merging.
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Shad
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Roads made by government have signs but not all have guards or barriers. Roads in reserves may or may not have signs. So outside of driving on reserve, which isn't a public road, you have to be blind and have no feeling (ditch bump) to cross into the US from Canada.
Subduction Zone
Veteran Member
There was nothing accidental about this:
U.K. family who said they were held by ICE after crossing Canada-U.S. border are released
"The agency said in a statement released Tuesday that surveillance video shows the vehicle the Connors were in traveling "slowly and deliberately" through the ditch into Washington. The vehicle continued to travel on the U.S. side until it was pulled over, CBP said. The statement also said the incident occurred around 9 p.m. on Oct. 2, rather than Oct. 3 as the Connors' statement said.
"During processing, record checks revealed two of the adults were previously denied travel authorization to come to the United States," the agency's statement said.
"Attempts were made to return the individuals to Canada, however, Canada refused to allow their return and two attempts to contact the United Kingdom consulate were unsuccessful," the statement said.
The Canada Border Services Administration did not immediately return a request for comment."
So they deliberately crossed the border. Once we had them Canada did not want them back. They were eventually returned to England. I do not think that the U.S. border patrol was the one that dropped the ball here. They had to deliberately cross the border. There was no animal. Two of the people had been rejected permission to be here and it seems the Canadians once they knew what was going on wanted no part of it. The British consulate was slow in responding. How would else could this have been handled?
Shad
Veteran Member
There are signs all over that road. More so the road has to merge into the Langley border crossing which they were east of. It has signs even pointing out there is no access to the crossing itself from that road. If they came from Vancouver they passed multiple border (2 prob) crossings that 0 ave merges into and out of. More so 0 Ave itself starts at a border crossing along a highway that has signs pointing out there is a border cross all the way from Richmond. You have to leave the border crossing to get on ) ave...
These people are lying and banking on your ignorance which worked.
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Subduction Zone
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Oh my. I don't think that you are using the word "gullible" correctly. Did you see that NBC tried to verify the claim that they would not take those people back? The non-response that they got amounted to a confirmation. I think that your bias is becoming rather obvious. Border control does a necessary and not too rewarding of a job. Instead of relying on your prejudice see if you can find anything that supports your side of the story. All you have is the story of the Brits involved and that fell apart like a wet paper bag.
Cooky
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I think the main point is that ignorance is not an excuse for breaking the law. It seems like you just want open borders to the U.S., where anyone can just walk in and do whatever they want here, and then leave when they're finished, never to be seen again. It seems like you just don't care about the law at all.
...Or maybe you see them as non-whites, so you feel aroused by offering yourself to them? I wonder.
Shad
Veteran Member
If the number was not the emergency line people can run into an issue. So the question is if the phone number was the line in question or a normal phone line which operates within normal hours of operation.Given there was an arrest and what CBP said I think CBP gave them the public number not emergency number
British Consulate General New York - GOV.UK
Shad
Veteran Member
There is no unmarked road along 0 ave near Blaine for them to turn into. They are either stupid to the point of having a handicap or are lying.