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Another PSA, this time for atheism:

SalixIncendium

अग्निविलोवनन्दः
Staff member
Premium Member
Regarding the last line of the video, I don't think it's quite accurate.

It should read, "Try the single life, and do whatever the hell you want."

Salix,
Theist that does whatever the hell he wants
 

Nakosis

Non-Binary Physicalist
Premium Member

This should have people changing over in an instant.

Most Christian accept they deserve punishment for their sins. Accepting Jesus provides salvation from that punishment. Or they are not worthy of being in the presence of God. The punishment or "Hell" being separated from God.

I'd suspect they'd agree with the PSA and see it as a warning to all atheists.
 

Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
It should read, "Try the single life,
I don't think the single life always leads to happiness...:p:p

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Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber
A weak, pathetic, and feeble stab that really doesn't even know what it's attacking. Going to Hell for working on Sunday? Where-oh-where is that one found in the Bible? (it's not)
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber
Exodus 20:8-11
That's not Sunday. And, ultimately, when the commandment was given, it wasn't hell people were punished to because the Jews lack that Christian concept. And that law only applies to the Jews, so a barista who works Friday night to Saturday night is not at risk of being killed.
 

SalixIncendium

अग्निविलोवनन्दः
Staff member
Premium Member
That's not Sunday.

Technically, it's sunset on Saturday to sunset on Sunday.

"The Hebrew Sabbath, the seventh day of the week, is often spoken of loosely as "Saturday" but in the Hebrew calendar a day begins at sunset and not at midnight. The Sabbath therefore coincides with what the Gregorian calendar identifies as Friday sunset to Saturday sunset. Similarly, the first day of the week ("Sunday") coincides with Gregorian Saturday sunset to Sunday sunset. The Sabbath continued to be observed on the seventh day in the early Christian church.[note 1] To this day, the Sabbath continues to be observed in line with the Hebrew Sabbath timing in the church calendars in Eastern Orthodoxy and Oriental Orthodoxy.[7]"

Sabbath in Christianity - Wikipedia
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber
The Sabbath therefore coincides with what the Gregorian calendar identifies as Friday sunset to Saturday sunset.
Which means the claim that those who work on Sunday are Hellbound is wrong on two accounts. One because that isn't the Sabbath, and two because they aren't Jews and violators weren't punished with Hell because the Jews do not have that concept.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
A weak, pathetic, and feeble stab that really doesn't even know what it's attacking. Going to Hell for working on Sunday? Where-oh-where is that one found in the Bible? (it's not)

I guess. The verse chosen says "put to death". I guess they just drew a logical conclusion:

"New International Version
"'Observe the Sabbath, because it is holy to you. Anyone who desecrates it is to be put to death; those who do any work on that day must be cut off from their people."
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
Which means the claim that those who work on Sunday are Hellbound is wrong on two accounts. One because that isn't the Sabbath, and two because they aren't Jews and violators weren't punished with Hell because the Jews do not have that concept.
What logic allows one to kill one set of people but not another for the same "crime"? And most Christians believe that Sunday is the sabbath. Fine, call it Saturday, it is still excessive.
 

SalixIncendium

अग्निविलोवनन्दः
Staff member
Premium Member
Which means the claim that those who work on Sunday are Hellbound is wrong on two accounts. One because that isn't the Sabbath, and two because they aren't Jews and violators weren't punished with Hell because the Jews do not have that concept.

Good points. Also, it's kind of moot, because the Bible really doesn't expressly say that one is going to Hell for working on the Sabbath anyway.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber
What logic allows one to kill one set of people but not another for the same "crime"? And most Christians believe that Sunday is the sabbath. Fine, call it Saturday, it is still excessive.
Most Christians also believe Satan is an adversary of God rather than a highly obedient angel of God. And getting your facts wrong about what you are criticizing, it's not as bad as the excessive demand of death but it's still really bad. And the Covenants and Laws between Yahwey and the Hebrews were made between Yahwey and his prophets, declaring the Hebrews his people for delivering them out of Egypt, which is why those laws only apply to Jews and not to Gentiles. Yahwey didn't involve the Gentiles with that stuff, so it's not their business to be involved.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
Most Christians also believe Satan is an adversary of God rather than a highly obedient angel of God. And getting your facts wrong about what you are criticizing, it's not as bad as the excessive demand of death but it's still really bad. And the Covenants and Laws between Yahwey and the Hebrews were made between Yahwey and his prophets, declaring the Hebrews his people for delivering them out of Egypt, which is why those laws only apply to Jews and not to Gentiles. Yahwey didn't involve the Gentiles with that stuff, so it's not their business to be involved.
And you do realize that this was not meant to be taken too seriously. If they had said "death" they would have been correct for all of those "sins".
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber
And you do realize that this was not meant to be taken too seriously.
Maybe they should take it a little more seriously so they aren't so sloppy and lazy with their results? Hell didn't exist during the OT to condemn people to it. Leaving the NT to be the source of this condemnation. But, even then, when it says marriage, that isn't an automatic penalty as long as adultery is the reason behind it.
 

Salvador

RF's Swedenborgian
If Christianity were true, Christian's sins would be ultimately forgiven, so they would indeed get to do whatever the Hell they'd like without having to be Hell-bound.
 

lewisnotmiller

Grand Hat
Staff member
Premium Member
Maybe they should take it a little more seriously so they aren't so sloppy and lazy with their results? Hell didn't exist during the OT to condemn people to it. Leaving the NT to be the source of this condemnation. But, even then, when it says marriage, that isn't an automatic penalty as long as adultery is the reason behind it.

Err...this is gonna be hard for non-Australians maybe, I don't know.
Gruen is a (pretty awesome, imho) show about advertising and spin. I haven't watched it in a little while, but it's hosted by a comedian, and has advertising industry types as panel members.

One of their regular segments is to invite in agencies to create ads about all sorts of left field topics, and then judge the ads for how persuasive they are.

'Factual accuracy' is simply not what the show is about.
As an example, one pitch they got people to do was one for a 'Pro-child labour' position.
Another was to ban all advertising.

Try this link...it's very amusing, although it may depend on your preferred style of humour.

Gruen's ten favourite episodes of The Pitch - Mumbrella
 
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