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Can you answer my post?About the milky galaxy?

dad

dad

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Subduction Zone said:
No, scientists can see starts in galaxies with only moderately powerful telescopes. The fact that you can't do so with your naked eye does not disprove their existence. It is time to leave the fishbowl dad
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? Disprove existence? How would the Alight mentioning some star groups 'disprove their existence'?? Ha
 
dad

dad

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Heyo said:
So, it is called "group of stars" in the bible? Please cite.
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Job 38:31

Pleiades in the Hebrew means this

"Pleiades, a constellation of seven stars"

And Orion means this

"
constellation, Orion
  1. Orion, the constellation
  2. constellation (general)"
 
Subduction Zone

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
Heyo said:
So you just don't know the difference between a galaxy and a constellation. And you didn't know that Pleiades and Orion are Greek names.
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Orion is a fairly obvious constellation so it does have other names and slightly different versions in other cultures. There is a likely Hebrew name for it. Not so much the Pleiades:

Hebrew astronomy - Wikipedia

It is really too hard to say which star or group of stars Kimah refers to.
 
Valjean

Valjean

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Premium Member
dad said:
They are what God called the groups of stars.
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But they're very different sorts of groups.
A constellation is just an imaginary picture outlined in the sky by visible stars. from a slightly different perspective they'd look completely different
Galaxies are completely different things.
 
viole

viole

Ontological Naturalist
Premium Member
Heyo said:
So you just don't know the difference between a galaxy and a constellation. And you didn't know that Pleiades and Orion are Greek names.
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Apparently, not even God knows the difference.

Ciao

- viole
 
dad

dad

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Valjean said:
But they're very different sorts of groups.
A constellation is just an imaginary picture outlined in the sky by visible stars. from a slightly different perspective they'd look completely different
Galaxies are completely different things.
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If there is a spiritual component/influence in stars, then indeed, the groups God mentioned could have greater significance than you know.

If time does not exist as we know it the same in far space then those so called galaxies could be light days away for all we know! Your whole conception of the universe is fatally flawed. We also may need to consider what effect time itself could have on space! The usual methods of measuring distance and time for stars (assuming space and time are the same as a base line taken from this solar system) would lose all value. Therefore the whole concept of 'galaxies' that science posits may be completely wrong.
 
ratiocinator

ratiocinator

Lightly seared on the reality grill.
dad said:
If there is a spiritual component/influence in stars, then indeed, the groups God mentioned could have greater significance than you know.

If time does not exist as we know it the same in far space then those so called galaxies could be light days away for all we know! Your whole conception of the universe is fatally flawed. We also may need to consider what effect time itself could have on space! The usual methods of measuring distance and time for stars (assuming space and time are the same as a base line taken from this solar system) would lose all value. Therefore the whole concept of 'galaxies' that science posits may be completely wrong.
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If, if, if.... and if all that is true, your god is a liar - setting out to deliberately deceive with false evidence.
 
dad

dad

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ratiocinator said:
If, if, if.... and if all that is true, your god is a liar - setting out to deliberately deceive with false evidence.
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False. Just because stubborn religious men insist on interpreting all of creation through the belief based filters and lens they use does not mean God tricked them to do so.
 
Valjean

Valjean

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Premium Member
dad said:
If there is a spiritual component/influence in stars, then indeed, the groups God mentioned could have greater significance than you know.

If time does not exist as we know it the same in far space then those so called galaxies could be light days away for all we know! Your whole conception of the universe is fatally flawed. We also may need to consider what effect time itself could have on space! The usual methods of measuring distance and time for stars (assuming space and time are the same as a base line taken from this solar system) would lose all value. Therefore the whole concept of 'galaxies' that science posits may be completely wrong.
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I'm mystified -- where did you come up with your avatar? One would think you had a better grasp of relativity.
 
dad

dad

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Valjean said:
I'm mystified -- where did you come up with your avatar? One would think you had a better grasp of relativity.
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If you had a grasp of it you would know it does not tell us anything about what time is in the far
universe. To comprehend relativity, the first thing you need to know is that relativity is only relative to the fishbowl!
 
ratiocinator

ratiocinator

Lightly seared on the reality grill.
dad said:
False. Just because stubborn religious men insist on interpreting all of creation through the belief based filters and lens they use does not mean God tricked them to do so.
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The evidence is quite clear and unambiguous, if it is the case that physics as we understand it doesn't apply out in the universe (or back in time) then it would be staggeringly improbable that it would look exactly as if it does.

If it was set up like that by a god, that god is a barefaced liar.

dad said:
Your ratio of huffing and puffing to substantive posting is not good.
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Wow - Matthew 7:5
 
dad

dad

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ratiocinator said:
The evidence is quite clear and unambiguous, if it is the case that physics as we understand it doesn't apply out in the universe (or back in time) then it would be staggeringly improbable that it would look exactly as if it does.

If it was set up like that by a god, that god is a barefaced liar.
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The only place we have experienced time is here on earth and the solar system area. Period. You do not know what time is like beyond that, so you may not invoke millions of our 'years' out there! Get it?
 
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