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I got the urge to go back to the occult

Callisto

Hellenismos, BTW
I heard that they are not christian.From my mom.:(

How is dreaming a religious thing (rhetorical)? Most people have experienced dreams where their mind was just conscious enough to know they're in a dream and even influence what direction the dream takes.
 

Nakosis

Non-Binary Physicalist
Premium Member
I heard that they are not christian.From my mom.:(

I've heard some say that Peter walking on water was actually the result of a lucid dream. Though I suppose a Christian would normally be required to see this as an actual event that took place.
 

calm

Active Member
Where did you leave it? Hopefully in a safe place.

Once in my bedroom, I felt an evil presence hovering over me. Frightened, I jumped out of my bed to escape it. As I reached for the door knob, to exit the room, my hand was unable to grasp it. Still frightened, I felt myself being pulled back towards the bed. :eek:

Suddenly I found myself in bed, looking up at the ceiling. I was unable to move, but I also saw myself in the hallway trying to turn the doorknob and escape. Weird being in two places at once.:confused:

After a minute, a second, a matter of time, I found myself fully lying in bed but unable to move. I had to fight to regain control of my body. First my head, I started to move it side to side. Then my arms, to get them to rise up from my sides. Finally my legs and I was able to sit up and wonder about what I had just experienced.o_O
This is neither a myth nor a joke but reality.
I myself know a lot of people who do lucid dreaming and astral projection for years and it works.
Meanwhile, lucid dreaming has even been scientifically proven.
 

wandering peacefully

Which way to the woods?
Where did you leave it? Hopefully in a safe place.

Once in my bedroom, I felt an evil presence hovering over me. Frightened, I jumped out of my bed to escape it. As I reached for the door knob, to exit the room, my hand was unable to grasp it. Still frightened, I felt myself being pulled back towards the bed. :eek:

Suddenly I found myself in bed, looking up at the ceiling. I was unable to move, but I also saw myself in the hallway trying to turn the doorknob and escape. Weird being in two places at once.:confused:

After a minute, a second, a matter of time, I found myself fully lying in bed but unable to move. I had to fight to regain control of my body. First my head, I started to move it side to side. Then my arms, to get them to rise up from my sides. Finally my legs and I was able to sit up and wonder about what I had just experienced.o_O
It is a state between being awake and dreaming. I've been there myself. Very scary because you believe you are awake, everything seems real but your body won't react to your seemingly awake directions. It can go on for what seems a long time, but then you actually wake up. Your evil being vanished I assume when you were really awake?
 

Nakosis

Non-Binary Physicalist
Premium Member
It is a state between being awake and dreaming. I've been there myself. Very scary because you believe you are awake, everything seems real but your body won't react to your seemingly awake directions. It can go on for what seems a long time, but then you actually wake up. Your evil being vanished I assume when you were really awake?

Sure, I just found the experience interesting. The experience of "leaving the body" can feel very real.
 

exchemist

Veteran Member
I heard that they are not christian.From my mom.:(
I can't see that either lucid dreaming or astral projection is either pro or anti Christian. There have been plenty of Christian mystics who went in for this sort of thing, though they may have called it by other names.

(But I can't pretend to know a lot about it. I am, unsurprisingly, very much a sceptic on this sort of thing. ;))
 

exchemist

Veteran Member
I have been baptized. And prayed for jesus to come into my heart.Also.:)
Don't let yourself be bullied on this "born-again" crap, by the way. It's all a way for certain groups of people to claim superiority over others. Like the Pharisees. Religious experience can take many forms.
 

Good-Ole-Rebel

Well-Known Member
Don't let yourself be bullied on this "born-again" crap, by the way. It's all a way for certain groups of people to claim superiority over others. Like the Pharisees. Religious experience can take many forms.

Really? The Pharisees didn't understand what being born-again meant. (John 3:9) So, why is it crap?

Good-Ole-Rebel
 

Hockeycowboy

Witness for Jehovah
Premium Member
Wow, I’m sorry to hear that!

You’ve only been away “a couple of days”?!

Grief, no wonder the urge is strong!

Pray to Jehovah - through Jesus - to help you. You’re going to have a struggle, buddy!
 

Deeje

Avid Bible Student
Premium Member
I haven't been into the occult for a few days.And now I got the urge to go back.:(

And where do you suppose that urge is coming from? If you have been dabbling in the occult all this time whilst asking for scriptural advice, are you actually working in harmony with your desire to please God or to please his enemy? What are you showing God by your actions?

Do you have no control over your urges? o_O Make a choice Frank....who will you serve? Its your call. God will make no steps towards you until you take positive steps towards him....we do that by obeying him. Have you been doing that?
 

LightofTruth

Well-Known Member
And where do you suppose that urge is coming from? If you have been dabbling in the occult all this time whilst asking for scriptural advice, are you actually working in harmony with your desire to please God or to please his enemy? What are you showing God by your actions?

Do you have no control over your urges? o_O Make a choice Frank....who will you serve? Its your call. God will make no steps towards you until you take positive steps towards him....we do that by obeying him. Have you been doing that?
Which is worst, being pious without knowledge or having knowledge and not being pious? In the end it doesn't really matter because both are required.
 

Deeje

Avid Bible Student
Premium Member
Which is worst, being pious without knowledge or having knowledge and not being pious? In the end it doesn't really matter because both are required.
I wasn't aware that I said anything like that. The Bible is clear when it comes to the practice of spiritism in any form.
You cannot disobey God and yet expect to have his blessing.
 

LightofTruth

Well-Known Member
I wasn't aware that I said anything like that. The Bible is clear when it comes to the practice of spiritism in any form.
You cannot disobey God and yet expect to have his blessing.
An antichrist like yourself can't expect anything except to die and return to your native earth.
 
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