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What on Earth is a "Uniquely Religious Truth"?

LuisDantas

Aura of atheification
Premium Member
Well, we have the 'uniquely religious truth'.
'Sarvam Khalu Idam Brahma' (All things here (are) Brahman).
Does it qualify?
Pretty good question.

Does it qualify as a epistemological truth claim, though? I tend to think of it instead as a start of definition of concepts.
 

Aupmanyav

Be your own guru
epistemology
/ɪˌpɪstɪˈmɒlədʒi,ɛˌpɪstɪˈmɒlədʒi/

noun
Philosophy
noun: epistemology
  1. the theory of knowledge, especially with regard to its methods, validity, and scope, and the distinction between justified belief and opinion.
Origin
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mid 19th century: from Greek epistēmē ‘knowledge’, from epistasthai ‘know, know how to do’.

Perhaps it is. Let us see what Sunstone thinks about that. :)
 

Audie

Veteran Member
In fairness, Audie, that is really not true.

That (literal) holier-than-thou attitude is actually restricted to very few creeds.

It can be read, like the bible, to say what you like.
Who, after all, are "the reiigionists"?

Might be worth a bit of a survey to see how many
of which religion do think theirs is the one and only
true one. I dunno how you could be a Christian
or Muslim without you think they others are all false.
 

Audie

Veteran Member
Truth comes in 3 flavours

1/ the quality or state of being true. (See 2)
2/ that which is true or in accordance with fact or reality.
3/ a fact or belief that is accepted as true

A uniquely religious "Truth" resides in the belief subset of flavour 3
(the capital T and quotes are important to differentiate between real truth and uniquely religious truth)

If it is a capitalized Truth, it is a "Truth" as in
not actually true. Who knew.
 

sun rise

The world is on fire
Premium Member
I have a problem with the OP - it references Correspondence Theory with a link to a very long TL;DR explication of this concept, variations on the theme, objections to the concept and so forth.

So I'm passing on answering the question as stated.
 

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
If it is a capitalized Truth, it is a "Truth" as in
not actually true. Who knew.

I have seen so many doing the finger quotes when speaking (with emphasis) the word truth it simply makes sense to me.
 

PureX

Veteran Member
I find it interesting the degree to which this idea upsets some folks.

A "unique" truth, I suspect, would be a proposition in which it's truthfulness depends upon a unique relational perspective. Maybe something like we experience in the Dopplar effect, where the pitch/frequency we hear will be unique to the position from which we are hearing it as the generator moves in relation to us: a position that only we can occupy, and therefor only we can hear in exactly the way that we are hearing it.

How would this relate to religion?

I would expect that there are a number of ways in which a person's perception of reality is altered or enhanced depending on their "uniquely religious" conceptualization of real-life experiences. Certainly, being moved to speak in unknown tongues, convulse one's body, cry out or wail, or any number of similar such unique, religiously inspired, behaviors stand as evidence of an individual's "uniquely religious" experience of truth/reality (of 'what is').
 
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LuisDantas

Aura of atheification
Premium Member
It can be read, like the bible, to say what you like.
Who, after all, are "the reiigionists"?

Might be worth a bit of a survey to see how many
of which religion do think theirs is the one and only
true one. I dunno how you could be a Christian
or Muslim without you think they others are all false.
That is sort of my point.

I for one avoid treating Christianity and Islaam as the be-all, end-all of religion.
 

crossfire

LHP Mercuræn Feminist Heretic ☿
Premium Member
Thread questions...

Are there really such things as truths that can only be demonstrated to be truths by uniquely religious means?

If so, what are those means? On what grounds do they have epistemic validity?


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My opinion (if anyone happens to be interested)...

Seems to me when people speak of "uniquely religious truths", they are most often clueless as to how those truths can be established apart from what in the end boils down to some method that is indistinguishable from mere whim.

Again, I fail to see how uniquely religious truths are any more a real thing than uniquely male truths, or uniquely Tory truths, or uniquely scientific truths, or uniquely stray dog truths. Either a thing is true or it is not true. The statement, "There is snow on the ground", is either true or it is not true. That is, there is one and only one set of means, procedures, techniques, etc for establishing whether the statement is true or false. There are not multiple sets with one set being "secular" and another set being "religious" and a third set being "female" and a fourth set being "feral kittens". What works to establish truth and falsehood, works universally to establish truth and falsehood.
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"Truth" in the context of this OP is being defined according to a modified version of the Correspondence Theory. For those of you to whom it matters. Also, No Surrender to Deflationism! Death before Dishonor!

So, are you referring to something like "Dharma as duty?"
 

stvdv

Veteran Member: I Share (not Debate) my POV
Thread questions...

Are there really such things as truths that can only be demonstrated to be truths by uniquely religious means?
If so, what are those means? On what grounds do they have epistemic validity?
What on Earth is a "Uniquely Religious Truth"?

IMHO:

`Religious Truth` has more to do with Religion than it has to do with Truth.

Some of these Religions are exclusive, making it even more a truth of a specific sect.

So every truth belonging to a specific Religion is unique to that Religion, no more, no less.
 

crossfire

LHP Mercuræn Feminist Heretic ☿
Premium Member
So, are you referring to something like "Dharma as duty?"
Let me give an example: If it is considered to be a "religious duty" to take care of those who are having troubles, then one could put faith in the idea that you would be taken care of by those who are faithful in their duty to take care of others in need.

James 1:27 "Pure and undefiled religion before our God and Father is this: to look after orphans and widows in their distress and to keep oneself unstained by the world."

Is The Golden Rule a "Uniquely Religious Truth?"
 

Audie

Veteran Member
Let me give an example: If it is considered to be a "religious duty" to take care of those who are having troubles, then one could put faith in the idea that you would be taken care of by those who are faithful in their duty to take care of others in need.

James 1:27 "Pure and undefiled religion before our God and Father is this: to look after orphans and widows in their distress and to keep oneself unstained by the world."

Is The Golden Rule a "Uniquely Religious Truth?"

The goddies like to present that the sermon on mount etc
are unique, divine, etc, but really they are not.

The same ideas are generally found throughout the
cultures of the world.
 
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